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ORIGINAL: TomTurn

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called "religious rights."
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to "the reasonable" Muslim demands for their "religious rights," they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, "The Haj"
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm

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Whats that song by Madonna, It's like a cancer!!!

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ORIGINAL: earthless

Within a few decades (perhaps even less) Europe will be predominantly Middle-Eastern/Muslim. The face of Europe will be unrecognizable to many.

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ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc

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ORIGINAL: earthless

Within a few decades (perhaps even less) Europe will be predominantly Middle-Eastern/Muslim. The face of Europe will be unrecognizable to many.

I don't know if these demographic changes are the end of the world from a Christian perspective. If the majority of Muslims wind up living as minorities in Western countries, Islam as a whole will be forced to confront secular humanism in a very real way.

Being an enlightenment rationalist, I don't believe that something can survive the light of reason and secular humanism for very long if there isn't a boatload of truth to it. So I don't think Islam will survive very long if it's exposed to Higher Criticism, Richard Dawkins, and the other realities that Western Society forces religion to confront.

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ORIGINAL: earthless

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ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc

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ORIGINAL: earthless

Within a few decades (perhaps even less) Europe will be predominantly Middle-Eastern/Muslim. The face of Europe will be unrecognizable to many.

I don't know if these demographic changes are the end of the world from a Christian perspective. If the majority of Muslims wind up living as minorities in Western countries, Islam as a whole will be forced to confront secular humanism in a very real way.

Being an enlightenment rationalist, I don't believe that something can survive the light of reason and secular humanism for very long if there isn't a boatload of truth to it. So I don't think Islam will survive very long if it's exposed to Higher Criticism, Richard Dawkins, and the other realities that Western Society forces religion to confront.

As a former atheist, I definitely see where you're coming from and what you're trying to convey. The problem with your points are that it neglects two things:

1) Muslims, as their numbers grow, will force their changes unto the secular society.

2) Their tactics for such change are terroristic (when adhered to the Qu'ran and the Hadith) and will result in the deaths of countless innocent non-Muslims and Muslims alike.

The fundamental Islamic community will not, due to secular environments, be curtailed like, perhaps, Christian, Hinduism, or Buddhist segments of society are.

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I don't know if these demographic changes are the end of the world from a Christian perspective. If the majority of Muslims wind up living as minorities in Western countries, Islam as a whole will be forced to confront secular humanism in a very real way.

Being an enlightenment rationalist, I don't believe that something can survive the light of reason and secular humanism for very long if there isn't a boatload of truth to it. So I don't think Islam will survive very long if it's exposed to Higher Criticism, Richard Dawkins, and the other realities that Western Society forces religion to confront.

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Just wait til CAIR and the ACLU get done undermining the constitution...we'll all be forced into re-education camps.

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When other people see these trials, they censor themselves and the truth is suppressed. It's happening in Canada too.

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ORIGINAL: dramagal

The Italian journalist Oriana Fallaci wrote about Islam and how Muslims were forcing their views and their ways on European society - and she was prosecuted in a Belgian court in absentia while living in NYC. She was never able to return to any European country before her death in 2006 because of EU extradition agreements.

When other people see these trials, they censor themselves and the truth is suppressed. It's happening in Canada too.

Recommended read: Mark Steyn's America Alone.

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ORIGINAL: earthless
1) Muslims, as their numbers grow, will force their changes unto the secular society.

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2) Their tactics for such change are terroristic (when adhered to the Qu'ran and the Hadith) and will result in the deaths of countless innocent non-Muslims and Muslims alike.

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The fundamental Islamic community will not, due to secular environments, be curtailed like, perhaps, Christian, Hinduism, or Buddhist segments of society are.