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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/17/2008 7:57:40 PM   
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Oh get real, there has been some awful derogatory cartoons of W. Get a thick skin, it's part of the job.


I just want to point out that this was not just some random derogatory cartoon found somewhere on the internet made by some guy in his mom's basement. It was an image promoted by a Republican party organization.

Similarly, the Sacramento County Republican Party had an image on its website likening Obama to Osama and calling for Obama to be waterboarded.


The same thing has happened on the left with Dubya. It is politics. The POTUS still has to have a thick skin because that oath of office requires him to uphold the Constitution. I didn't say I agreed with it but from a 1st Amendment point of view people are still free to make fools of themselves. May it always be that way.

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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/17/2008 8:18:18 PM   
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I think a couple of things from the article need to be highlighted:
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She said she simply wanted to deride a comment Obama made over the summer about how as an African-American he "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

In my opinion, although this was rather tasteless, Obama got this dialog started by playing the race card with his now infamous and stupid statement about not looking like "all those other presidents on the dollar bills".

Second was this
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The GOP newsletter, which was sent to about 200 members and associates of the group by e-mail and regular mail last week, is drawing harsh criticism from members of the political group, elected leaders, party officials and others as racist.


Note that the letter was sent to a rather small sample (200) out of which many harshly criticized it. It is unreasonable to link this with the entire group.

Finally, for those who think Obama's image was degraded in some way - you must remember that the donkey is the "mascot" symbol of the Democrat party. Candidates images are always being put on an image of a donkey (Dems) or elephant (Reps). This occurs in every election for almost every political position. Why is it this such a sacrilege? Is it because he is "The One"?

The issue of the images of watermelon, fried chicken, and ribs may be traditionally considered racist to some. But for the record... I happen to love ALL three and I am not black!
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/17/2008 8:57:23 PM   
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I do remember Obama answering the question about what was his favorite food; the answer was fried chicken.

The Pork and the kool-Aid are right on target. Obama averages right at a million dollars a day in pork for pet projects. And he is sure dishing out the Kool-Aid.

The watermelon might be problamatic, but I can't say for sure whether Obama is a watermelon freak or not.

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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/17/2008 9:19:23 PM   
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Does anyone know the history of why fried chicken, watermelon, barbeque ribs and kool-aide became associated with the black community in a racist way?

I am asking because I really don't know the origin of this. What I find terribly offensive is linking some of my life-long favorite things to racism. Why is it so?... anybody?
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/17/2008 11:52:21 PM   
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Agreed, time and time again it keeps being put back in the deck. It's especially obvious in this election.


Obama is the one who continues to play the race card.


One must remember that politics is a contact sport, always has and will always be. Honest Abe was compared to a Ape. "Whose Your Daddy" was a taunt of another campaign. Burr and Hamilton took it to an exteme
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/18/2008 12:12:08 AM   
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Obama seems fine with his face on everything else, so sure. He's practically all you can see when you stinkin' walk into a bookstore these days.
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/18/2008 12:26:59 AM   
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I didn't read the article, just the OP here.

Someone explain to me how putting Obama's picture on the Democrat symbol (the donkey), then putting it on a food stamp is racist?

It tells me Obama is a Democrat and that, if he's elected, he'll make a lot of people poorer so that he's commemorated on the food stamp.

What's racist about that?
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/18/2008 3:17:07 AM   
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Does anyone know the history of why fried chicken, watermelon, barbeque ribs and kool-aide became associated with the black community in a racist way?

I am asking because I really don't know the origin of this. What I find terribly offensive is linking some of my life-long favorite things to racism. Why is it so?... anybody?


Well I think the kool-aid is a different sort of reference (as in 'don't drink the kool-aid') - but the sad fact is the history of stereotypical imagery of African Americans often depicts them as being inordinantly fond of watermelon and fried chicken.

Sad examples here, here, here, and here.

It's a stereotype, not unlike those depicting southerners as racist rednecks.

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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/18/2008 7:06:34 AM   
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Does anyone know the history of why fried chicken, watermelon, barbeque ribs and kool-aide became associated with the black community in a racist way?

I am asking because I really don't know the origin of this. What I find terribly offensive is linking some of my life-long favorite things to racism. Why is it so?... anybody?


Well I think the kool-aid is a different sort of reference (as in 'don't drink the kool-aid') - but the sad fact is the history of stereotypical imagery of African Americans often depicts them as being inordinantly fond of watermelon and fried chicken.

Sad examples here, here, here, and here.

It's a stereotype, not unlike those depicting southerners as racist rednecks.

Thanks, Jhud.

I am amazed that those images still carry any credance in today's society. Sad, very sad.

That being said, would the "Obama Bucks" food stamos still have been considered racist if the images were simple grocery items which can be bought with food stamps?

Do people consider the image of Obama's face on the head of a donkey racist?

And a side issue... what about Obama's comment that John McCain's campaign will try to make voters scared to vote for him because he doesn't look like the other Presidents on those dollar bills? ...was that racist or an attempt to stir racial anger?
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/20/2008 1:12:13 PM   
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It's wrong but where was the outrage over some of the same level of racists pics of Dubya?


Tell me what racist picture was depicted of Dubya that even compares not only to this but others that have been on Obama?

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Well, maybe this says something about me personally, but I was laughing hysterically at "Obama Bucks" until I came here and started reading the Lefties making a big deal about the fried chicken and watermelon.


Maybe it does... but that's forums are for, for people to see the other side of things from someone else's perspective. I do take issue with you saying...

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I really didn't associate those things with blacks or as racist until you ultra-sensitive liberals pointed it out! Believe it or not, most of us honkies out here don't give a second thought to skin color until it gets brought up again and again and again and again.... I just have to roll my eyes and walk away most of the time.

Maybe if cry babies quit crying foul we could move beyond this asinine racism angle. It is really quite tiresome in 2008.


This isn't a lefty or righty type of issue, a liberal or conservative issue, it's a right vs. wrong issue, and in this case it was wrong, especially it being from the GOP. If you read the article, one woman who was interviewed who is a Republican and black found it offensive. You see, like I said despite how you may see things and think race isn't a big deal, it's things like this that keeps being brought up about other races that makes it impossible for people to get over racial things.
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/20/2008 1:13:15 PM   
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Oh get real, there has been some awful derogatory cartoons of W. Get a thick skin, it's part of the job.


I just want to point out that this was not just some random derogatory cartoon found somewhere on the internet made by some guy in his mom's basement. It was an image promoted by a Republican party organization.

Similarly, the Sacramento County Republican Party had an image on its website likening Obama to Osama and calling for Obama to be waterboarded.


Exactly
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/20/2008 2:08:40 PM   
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This thread has me considering leaving this board.



To compare a cartoon insulting GWB's intellect.....

With some of the outright RACIST actions taken by certain individuals.


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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/20/2008 3:25:02 PM   
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Tell me what racist picture was depicted of Dubya that even compares not only to this but others that have been on Obama?


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There's plenty more but it would be a TOS to link to them. It goes both ways. Again, read what I wrote. The President takes an oath of office to uphold the Constitution part of which is the freedom of speech. The POTUS must have thick skin because the ignorant fools are given the right to make fools of themselves in how they express their views. I said it was wrong but under the constitution a person is free to make those kinds of cartoons and may it always be that way. If you don't understand what I'm saying then you don't grasp what the First Amendment is all about.

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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/20/2008 3:38:25 PM   
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Tell me what racist picture was depicted of Dubya that even compares not only to this but others that have been on Obama?


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There's plenty more but it would be a TOS to link to them. It goes both ways. Again, read what I wrote. The President takes an oath of office to uphold the Constitution part of which is the freedom of speech. The POTUS must have thick skin because the ignorant fools are given the right to make fools of themselves in how they express their views. I said it was wrong but under the constitution a person is free to make those kinds of cartoons and may it always be that way. If you don't understand what I'm saying then you don't grasp what the First Amendment is all about.


I get that but this came from an organization that's apart of the GOP party. Are you telling me it's okay for them to do that? That's why many minorities don't feel welcomed or the party represents them because of things like this and the rallies.

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This thread has me considering leaving this board.



To compare a cartoon insulting GWB's intellect.....

With some of the outright RACIST actions taken by certain individuals.





I've thought about more than a few times myself...
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/20/2008 3:46:54 PM   
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I said it is wrong how many times now but that under the constitution people have the right to make ignorant fools of themselves. How many times do I have to say that???????

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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/20/2008 4:54:48 PM   
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I said it is wrong how many times now but that under the constitution people have the right to make ignorant fools of themselves. How many times do I have to say that???????


I believe you. I have no reason not to.
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/20/2008 4:58:42 PM   
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I said it is wrong how many times now but that under the constitution people have the right to make ignorant fools of themselves. How many times do I have to say that???????


You did and I apologize if what I wrote seemed directed at you. You're right just because there are some ignorant people, doesn't mean that all are that way. Heck if I was silly to think all republicans were that way, I wouldn't be with my boyfriend. It's all good though.
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/22/2008 4:54:57 PM   
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I repeat:

I didn't read the article, just the OP here.

Someone explain to me how putting Obama's picture on the Democrat symbol (the donkey), then putting it on a food stamp is racist?

It tells me Obama is a Democrat and that, if he's elected, he'll make a lot of people poorer so that he's commemorated on the food stamp.

What's racist about that?
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/24/2008 10:49:04 AM   
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I repeat:

I didn't read the article, just the OP here.

Someone explain to me how putting Obama's picture on the Democrat symbol (the donkey), then putting it on a food stamp is racist?

It tells me Obama is a Democrat and that, if he's elected, he'll make a lot of people poorer so that he's commemorated on the food stamp.

What's racist about that?



The Kool-aid pitcher, bucket of fried chicken, and ribs, are all racist images that since slavery were used to depict African-Americans as a joke and that's all that we are.... that's what's racist about it... and sponsored from a branch of the GOP party at that.
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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/24/2008 11:46:12 AM   
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The GOP are supposed to be the party of values and morals, God's supposedly chosen party while the rest of us are hell-bound (let some of you here tell it)... then why is it such pictures that are obviously offensive are being projected by the party?

The October newsletter by the Chaffey Community Republican Women, Federated says if Obama is elected his image will appear on food stamps -- instead of dollar bills like other presidents. The statement is followed by an illustration of "Obama Bucks" -- a phony $10 bill featuring Obama's face on a donkey's body, labeled "United States Food Stamps."...

Click below to read rest of story:

http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_buck16.3d67d4a.html


I think this is silly and is blown out of proportion. How many on here have said you can't blame all of the left because of what one left-wing loon says? Even though this is a group of 200, one person put that newsletter together and she is responsible for it, not the entire group. If anything, let them replace the group's president and move on.

Longfingers, I have looked and I can't find you condemning Murtha for calling people rednecks. Actually not many on the left have condemned Murtha for that. That is a derogatory term, is offensive to many and is as bad as calling someone an n-word.

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RE: Chirstian like or just plain wrong: Pictures depict... - 10/29/2008 6:58:20 PM   
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The Kool-aid pitcher, bucket of fried chicken, and ribs, are all racist images that since slavery were used to depict African-Americans as a joke and that's all that we are.... that's what's racist about it... and sponsored from a branch of the GOP party at that.


OK, so the picture of Obama on the food stamp itself wasn't the racist part. Thanks!
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