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God is Almighty ,all knowing . - 7/3/2009 6:53:55 AM
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anjaandreas
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First of all let me say I do not believe in predestiny but men has a free will to follow God .
How ever I do believe God is Almighty and all knowing .
To me this are two different things....
I believe GOD IS IN CONTROL ALWAYS.
This to me is the basic of Eph 1:4 ,even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without blemish before him in love
God did not change his plan because of Satan or because of the Sin men ( Adam and Eve) .
I believe God knows all ,yes from the early begin
BEFORE THE WORLD IS CREATED
This is what I read in the verses in Eph 1:4,5
God did not change his Plan .
He did form FIRST His One Son, this SON would create men and all thing in heaven and on earth Col1:13-20
See I believe many do not understand the complete truth what this means ?
If GOD in his plan formed a seed ,the plan of a seed in his Son ...before his Son created heaven and earth .....
only then we can see the full light of the scripture in Eph 1:4.
I believe God did see from the begin what was to come.
How Eve seduced by Satan eat fruit from the tree of good and evil.
Satan his seed would play a big part in Gods Plan,as the Son and his seed would play a big part in Gods plan.(Gen 3:15).
Do read Gen 3:15 once more now compare this verse to Rev 12:1-5,17
What do we see here now ?
Do you see the woman talked about ,do you see here seed ?
Do you see the promised seed in Rev 12:1-5,17 and Eph1:4 ,do you see the woman talked about in Gen 3:15 is not just Eve ?
WHO IS SHE ,READ REV 21:22-27
Now did God knew of all this before it happened ,Yes I think he did .
Remember how Jesus picked Judas to fulfill the scripture ,that all could be fulfilled in the plan of Christ sacrifice .
READ ROM 9:21.
Why do i say so ?
Because this is proof to me the Devil has no Power or control over God,s plan but God himself.
As Jesus from the begin called his disciples one by one by name ,he also knew what Judas was about ,
THAT JUDAS WOULD BETRAY HIM.
I believe this is why Jesus choose Judas.
Jesus knew ! Act 4:28,Luce22:21,22,1Peter11,
God knew Satan coal from the early begin.
God is always one step a head of Satan.
God is Almighty.
This i can read in Eph1:4
I do feel God is helping to set us free, to see his plan and how we fit in.
I hope this will help ?
Now what happened to our family .
This is my personal testemony.
For 32 years we were Jehovah witness.
But we decided to leaf the Watch Tower organization based on what we found out about their connections they have (NGO/DPI ) inside the UN.
We wrote them a letter that we could not stay bounded to any religion who do act in this way.
That we have to follow our one true shepherd that we need to listen to his voice more then to the voice of a stranger.
God was calling us to come out.
We were so happy we decided to leaf this organisation,God made our faith grow stronger and stronger every day to put our trust only in him so we could act as we did
To walk at his hand ,the hand of our shepherd ....John 10:28,29
We put our compete trust in him only.
That particular morning it was snowing it was a winter day .
It was snowing as i walked to the mail box to mail my letter.
As I walked i sow every thing has become white around me ....
not a sound just the snow under my feet as i walked on.
It was early that morning as I walked ....
It was a new fresh day ,a good day to start again I thought.
We knew we would lose all our friends who still are inside this organization still.
But we decided to leaf them any way .
I was crying  ,32 years of my life were inside this letter,32 years we were inside the watchtower Organization.
To me it felt like divorcing my self from a husband who betrayed me .
I opened the mailbox and prayed as i enter my letter.
"Jehovah please help me ,my whole life is in your hand now .
I give my self to you and you only to help our family to become save in your care
I know you love your sheep , for you tooled me in your word .John 10.
I believe you will not forsake your sheep , I know you will bring us were we belong.
We put our trust only in you Jehovah.
No longer we put our trust on any men who claim to be appointed to become your organization on earth."
That summer we baptized our self in the name Yeshua , after reading Rom 6:4-12.
It says this : Or don’t you know that all we who were immersed into Messiah Yeshua were immersed into his death?
We were buried therefore with him through immersion to death, that just like Messiah was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.
For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will also be part of his resurrection; knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him, that the body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be in bondage to sin.
For he who has died has been freed from sin.
But if we died with Messiah, we believe that we will also live with him; knowing that Messiah, being raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no more has dominion over him!
For the death that he died, he died to sin one time; but the life that he lives, he lives to God.
Thus consider yourselves also to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Messiah Yeshua our Lord.
Now we are free ,we are truly really free in Him.
God is in control of our live now , we died and we resurrect in his blood ,we live by his spirit .
God is in control of our live now and move by his spirit.
We know Yah,shua Messiah is our savior .
Jehovah /Jesus is our Saviour Messiah.
How true is his word.
1John4:4:13 By this we know that we remain in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. 4:14 We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as the Savior of the world. 4:15 Whoever confesses that Yeshua is the Son of God, God remains in him, and he in God.
We remain IN HIM ,we are in his care now to walk every day in his presence.
We tell about his glory and his power and love about how he cares for his sheep.(John 10:28,29)Heartbeat
We tell about his name,that there is salvation in none other, for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, by which we must be saved!”
Act 4:10
Be it known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Yeshua the Messiah of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, in him does this man stand here before you whole. 4:11 He is ‘the stone which was regarded as worthless by you, the builders, which has become the head of the corner.’
4:12 There is salvation in none other, for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, by which we must be saved!”
1Ti 4:10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we have set our trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.
2 Sam22:3 God, my rock, in him I will take refuge;
my shield, and the horn of my salvation,
my high tower, and my refuge.
As we walk on to become more Holy in him we share his love to others
Many ex witness do not like to hear we believe Jehovah /Jesus is our savior,but we can not stop to tell about his power and his love he showed to us
The Father of our Lord will love all who love his Son .Joh14:6,Act4:12.
We walk in the light of his spirit now.1Joh2:26-29
To become One in Yeshua Messiah and through him we are one in the Father of our Lord.
John 17:21 that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that you sent me. 17:22 The glory which you have given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, even as we are one; 17:23 I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you loved me.
No one can stop his joy inside us ....this fountain of joy inside our heart,
And no one can stop us to tell the world about his love.LoveLove
1:2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Yeshua the Messiah.
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Messiah; even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without blemish before him in love; having predestined us for adoption as children through Yeshua the Messiah to himself, according to the good pleasure of his desire, to the praise of the glory of his grace, by which he freely bestowed favor on us in the Beloved, in whom we have our redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace (Eph1:3-6).
Faith ore religion ?
I my self walk in spirit but not in religion .
To walk in faith in newness of live in Yeshua messiah .John 3:5-7 
This to me is why Jesus says :
John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
Not some building group of people who gather together in some place ,but ...Eph2:19-22
you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but you are fellow citizens with the holy ones, and of the household of God, being built on the foundation of the emissaries and prophets, Messiah Yeshua himself being the chief cornerstone; in whom the whole building, fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord; in whom you also are built together for a habitation of God in the Spirit.
So why do we seek God inside religion ?
http://timothy-kline.com/thoughts/2009/06/20/does-your-religion-matter-part-1/
Jesus says to the Samaritan woman(and to all of us )this in John 4:21-23,it says :
Yeshua said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour comes, when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, will you worship the Father. You worship that which you don’t know. We worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews. But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers.
God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
We walk in spirit ,not in religion.
God freed us form religion through his Son Yeshua Messiah.
Eph2:4-10
But God, being rich in mercy, for his great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Messiah (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with him, and made us to sit with him in the heavenly places in Messiah Yeshua, that in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Messiah Yeshua; for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 2:9 not of works, that no one would boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Messiah Yeshua for good works, which God prepared before that we would walk in them.
(1John2:26-28.)
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RE: God is Almighty ,all knowing . - 7/3/2009 11:43:18 AM
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Maybe this should go into the writer's roundtable?
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RE: God is Almighty ,all knowing . - 7/5/2009 12:53:50 AM
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I do not usually read long posts, but I read yours. Welcome.
I'm glad to hear that you are no longer part of the jehovah's witness. I'm sure it was very difficult , as you described, leaving something you were a part of for such a long time. May I ask if you are still reading thier translation of the bible or are you reading a different one? I have spoken to JW's over the years as well as Mormons but have not had luck.
I can see the excitment in your heart from what you wrote and it's good. You are right that God is our shepherd and it's not just words, He wants to guide us everyday in all the parts of our lives. He will lead us. Satan will also want to lead you, so we must read the bible and pray. By spending time with our first love, we will come to know Him and will not be misled.
You spoke about not walking in religion and if I understand you, you are talking about not being bound into rules and regulations, but wanting to be free to love and serve the Lord. Even Jesus rebuked the religious leaders of His day for placing heavy religious burdens on the people and missing the truth of loving and serving others. It stifles the life out of a believer and puts off those who are seeking. God does however define pure and undefiled religion for us in His word (James 1:27)
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
When we choose to serve the Lord by serving others, we find the kingdom of God has indeed come in righteousness, peace and joy.
Praise be to the Lord you are free.
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RE: God is Almighty ,all knowing . - 7/5/2009 7:09:50 PM
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no matter where we go or what we do, we will find people or organizations who say they serve God but by thier actions deny Him. Even in a church with God fearing members, you may find a tare amongst the wheat (Matt 13:24-30). Some would use this as an excuse to walk away from walking with their Creator. We need to be light in this dark world and by keeping our eyes fixed upon the Author and Finisher of our faith we can be just that, salt and light.
I like reading different translations as well, as I find that each of them bring a different perspective on the word of God. They don't change the meaning but help us to see what we are reading from a different angle.
I would encourage you, friend, to continue on this wonderful journey. Cast your cares upon the Lord, for He cares for you, He will never let any of His words fail. I have found Him to be faithful, especially so in the darkest of times. I have found Him to be loving, if I just needed to sit with Him, or if I needed to be corrected. I have found Him to be wise when in my foolishness I made a mess of my life. Today, I find Him simply amazing. No words can truly describe how wonderful He is.
May the peace of the Lord be upon you
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RE: God is Almighty ,all knowing . - 7/7/2009 8:57:56 AM
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anjaandreas
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God will provide in every thing .
But we are to pray for his world and peace for every one .
God is always in comment in all we do and say .
I feel we are close to a great release of all who are bound to this world of false religion.
Yes every thing works out for the good ,of this i am sure ,
First of all let me say I do not believe in predestiny but men has a free will to follow God .
How ever I do believe God is Almighty and all knowing .
To me this are two different things....
I believe GOD IS IN CONTROL ALWAYS.
This to me is the basic of Eph 1:4 ,even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without blemish before him in love
God did not change his plan because of Satan or because of the Sin men
( Adam and Eve) .
I believe God knows all ,yes from the early begin
BEFORE THE WORLD IS CREATED
This is what I read in the verses in Eph 1:4,5
God did not change his Plan .
He did form FIRST His One Son, this SON would create men and all thing in heaven and on earth Col1:13-20
See I believe many do not understand the complete truth what this means?
If GOD in his plan formed a seed ,the plan of a seed in his Son ...before his Son created heaven and earth .....
only then we can see the full light of the scripture in Eph 1:4.
I believe God did see from the begin what was to come.
How Eve seduced by Satan eat fruit from the tree of good and evil.
Satan his seed would play a big part in Gods Plan,as the Son and his seed would play a big part in Gods plan.(Gen 3:15).
Do read Gen 3:15 once more now compare this verse to Rev 12:1-5,17
What do we see here now ?
Do you see the woman talked about ,do you see here seed ?
Do you see the promised seed in Rev 12:1-5,17 and Eph1:4 ,do you see the woman talked about in Gen 3:15 is not just Eve ?
WHO IS SHE ,READ REV 21:22-27
Now did God knew of all this before it happened ,Yes I think he did .
Remember how Jesus picked Judas to fulfill the scripture ,that all could be fulfilled in the plan of Christ sacrifice .
READ ROM 9:21,
Why do i say so ?
Because this is proof to me the Devil has no Power or control over God,s plan but God himself.
As Jesus from the begin called his disciples one by one by name ,he also knew what Judas was about ,
THAT JUDAS WOULD BETRAY HIM.
I believe this is why Jesus choose Judas.
Jesus knew ! Act 4:28,Luce22:21,22,1Peter11,
God knew Satan coal from the early begin.
God is always one step a head in front of Satan.
God is Almighty,this i can read in Eph1:4
I do feel God is helping to set us free, to see his plan and how we fit in.
I hope this will help ?
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RE: God is Almighty ,all knowing . - 7/9/2009 5:35:09 AM
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anjaandreas
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Some one said:
I've read about what Jews for Jesus is doing, and I am glad there is an organization that is zealous about reaching others for Jesus.
I answered him this below :
I read in Luke 19 this:19:39 Some of the Pharisees from the multitude said to him, “Rabbi, rebuke your disciples!”
19:40 He answered them, “I tell you that if these were silent, the stones would cry out.”
SEE, to the Jews gentiles are stones , they are death .
But even the stones would cry out Yehua says.
Yes some of the gentiles know who God savior of the world is
It is:
Yeshua our Messiah.
That no one can boast .Love
Only God is in comment ,not some organization .
Only God spirit works in all his children only he can move us to speak the truth,(1Joh2:26-29).
We are a tool in Gods hand.
Can you see the danger if you start uplifting a organization ?
But instead we need uplifting the Son.
All must look up to the Son to become saved.
John 3:14-15
14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,
15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Yeshua the Messiah.
Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Messiah; 1:4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without blemish before him in love; 1:5 having predestined us for adoption as children through Yeshua the Messiah to himself, according to the good pleasure of his desire, 1:6 to the praise of the glory of his grace, by which he freely bestowed favor on us in the Beloved, 1:7 IN WHOM WE HAVE OUR REDEMPTION through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 1:8 which he made to abound toward us in all wisdom and prudence, 1:9 making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he purposed in him 1:10 to an administration of the fullness of the times, to sum up all things in Messiah, the things in the heavens, and the things on the earth, IN HIM .
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RE: God is Almighty ,all knowing . - 7/9/2009 5:36:25 AM
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Forty years of wondering in the wilderness are coming to an end.
The Promised Land is in their sight. All they had to do was cross over to the Promised Land by going through the land of the Edomites.
The Edomites were related to Israel through Esau. Moses did not want a confrontation with his distant relatives so he asked permission to go through their land but they denied him not once but twice.
So Moses plan shifted to go around the land of the Edomites. It was a plan that would take longer in both time and distance. And it would result in an immediate confrontation with the Canaanites and the complete defeat of the Canaanites.
The people were feeling their oats having defeated the Canaaites. They were frustrated that they were going around the Edomites; they were tired of their journey and they wanted it to come to an end now. They didn’t want to take the long way to the Promised Land. They wanted their Promised Land now even if it meant war with their relatives the Edomites.
And that is where we pick up in verse 4 and 5
Numbers 21:4-5
4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea, to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way;
5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the desert? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!"
It almost looks like God is quick to pull the trigger of judgment against these people. They had been near the Promised Land once before and God sent them on a 40 year journey. This time he is going to send snakes to bite them and kill them. It is almost like He doesn’t want them to enter into the Promised Land.
What’s the deal? Let’s take a quick looks at their complaints through the Book of Numbers.
Numbers 11:1
1 Now the people complained about their hardships in the hearing of the LORD, and when he heard them his anger was aroused. Then fire from the LORD burned among them and consumed some of the outskirts of the camp.
Numbers 14:2
2 All the Israelites grumbled against Moses and Aaron, and the whole assembly said to them, "If only we had died in Egypt! Or in this desert!
Numbers 16:41
41 The next day the whole Israelite community grumbled against Moses and Aaron. "You have killed the LORD's people," they said.
Numbers 17:12
12 The Israelites said to Moses, "We will die! We are lost, we are all lost!
They spoke in the hearing of the Lord; they spoke against their leaders jointly; and they spoke just against Moses but there is something different about this complaint in Numbers 21. They spoke against God.
They had 4 problems with God.
a. He brought them out in the wilderness to die. God told them they would enter the Promised Land so they were calling God a liar.
b. There is no bread. What about the manna from heaven that fell. They were criticizing His Provisions for them.
c. There is no water. I am sure that this complaint infuriated Moses because of that complaint the last time that he is not going to be able to enter the Promised Land. Remember God told him to talk to the rock instead he struck in and water came out.
d. And they said they hate this food which really is “light bread” and they just said they had no bread. Which is it? It just goes to show us how foolish our complaints against God are.
.So in verse 6 God sends venomous snakes.
Why snakes?
a. Snakes are a symbol of sin. Satan had disguised himself as a serpent in the Garden to introduce sin into the world. Throughout the Bible sin is a symbol of sin, evil and rebellion against God.
b. There is an irony to his judgment. The snake was a symbol of power and life in Egypt. The Pharaoh’s crown had as one of its symbols a cobra snake. They longed for Egypt and so God gives them a symbol of Egypt.
People are dropping like flies. We are talking about possibly 4 million people living in a 12 square mile area. All of them have been bitten by the poisonous serpents. Hear is the lesson: Even though a situation may be desperate with God it is never hopeless.
There situation is desperate so where do they go?
They return to Moses to get him to pray for the people. They did confess their sin against God and Moses. Their request of Moses is that God take the snakes away from us
(now the Watchtower Organization manipulate this verse to tell that they are symbolic like Moses ).
Moses does not symbolizes the Watchtower organization but I believe it is the holy spirit that always lift up Christ in all gods children.
We go to God for his spirit and to forgive our sin and be saved in the name of His Son,
Do read John 14:15-17,18,21 and 23 !
God doesn’t remove the snakes
He gives them a solution.
Yeshua his Son !
With sin, God does not remove sin in the world, He gives them a solution
Yeshua his Son !
With judgment, God does not remove judgment, God gives them a solution.
To believe in Yeshua His Son !
In verse 8 we see that Salvation is totally God’s idea and God’s idea carries over into the New Testament.
The way the people were saved in the Old Testament is to look upon the savior God had provided and the way to salvation in the New Testament is to look upon the Savior that God had provided
That is everyone who looked at the snake lived. There were no exceptions.
In the New Testament we are told to believe in Yeshua(Jesus) and be saved.
Romans 10:13
13 for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
b. It was an individual solution. That is everyone had to look for themselves. You are sick and hurting so I tell you I will go to the pole and look at the serpent for you. No, that didn’t work! No matter how sick you were you had to make it to the pole yourself. Now anybody could be healed but not everyone was healed because some people didn’t make it to the pole.
The moment you looked is the moment you lived. Salvation is not a process. It is a moment at time. It occurs when I look at Jesus hanging on a cross and realizes what He did for me and I say that I want that.
After the Father provided the solution, the people who died did not die because they were bitten; they died because they did not look. Looking was and act of faith.
I am so glad that God did not say you had to touch the serpent because then salvation would have been only available for those who lived during the time of Jesus.
But instead I have to look up to my savior Christ .
John 3:14-15
14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,
15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
9. The remaining verses to verse 21 are there to tell us that the people have a new attitude as they travel. They are still going around Edom but they have a different attitude. They are not complaining they have an attitude of gratitude.
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