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Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/25/2009 12:09:07 AM
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luvsrickforever
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I have a lot of Beatles on vinyl and some on cassette but not much. I have only a few on CD and those are the double CD of the old and newer songs that are remixed versions with them talking on some of them, stuff like that. Unreleased stuff. Paul came on TV on Entertainment Tonight saying that the new stuff would sound just like you were in the studio with them. They were remastered in the 80's. I know technology has improved but the price is outrageous! Our local oldies radio station played the albums from the first to the last. I heard some but not all of them. I did not feel like I was in the studio hearing them for the first time and hearing how wonderful they sounded in the studio. It sounded like I was listening to it on my cheap stereo. I was in the car when they were played.
Do you have to have an expensive player to hear it like Paul says? Do you feel it's worth it? Unless the price goes down, I will not be buying it anytime in the near future.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/25/2009 9:59:05 AM
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I have had the entire discography for a few years so no. it wont be complete in some collectiors eyes, but already having the music makes it complete in my eyes
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/25/2009 7:32:56 PM
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I would love to get the mono box set. but I doubt I ever will because it's (supposed to be) a limited edition, and they want two arms and a leg for it.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/26/2009 4:17:57 AM
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I got mine a week ago. I think it's worth it. I dwnladed the entire discography from the 80s remasters, and the new ones sound AMAZNG. It was a great purchase :)
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/28/2009 11:41:24 PM
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keithyhuntington, could you do me a big favor? You don't have to if you don't want to. Here is my problem. I am a dancer and want to dance to a Beatle song this year. I only have the Beatles on vinyl and my dance teachers record player doesn't work. She can't get any Beatle songs on-line to burn to a CD because of copyright laws or something. You can get Beatle songs by other people but none by The Beatles themselves. Could you by any chance burn me a CD of Beatle songs if I gave you a list? I'd be willing to pay you for your time. I'd need them ASAP as I have no song to dance to. A friend offered to do them for me but I wouldn't get them until the end of Nov. as he's busy getting ready for a Beatle convention he is holding and I need them now.
Can you help a poor soul? LOL
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/29/2009 8:21:34 AM
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What you're asking him to do is probably illegal under copyright laws.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/29/2009 10:04:54 PM
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The link you posted is not for the real Beatles. They're tribute bands. There's a disclaimer on the page that states there are no Beatles mp3's available.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/29/2009 11:31:29 PM
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There are no Beatles MP3 available to get on line. My dance teacher checked. It's groups doing the Beatles. I have vinyl but her record player doesn't work. I didn't want to get them on CD because I have them on vinyl. I tried to get the Cd's through my music club but they only had one CD and it was very early material, like Ain't She Sweet. Nothing that I wanted. I'm sorry if I am doing something illegal. I don't mean to. I have a feeling that because Michael Jackson has or had the rights to all the Beatles songs that put a kibosh on everything. I'll look elsewhere. Thank you.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/30/2009 3:10:14 AM
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The link you posted is not for the real Beatles. They're tribute bands. There's a disclaimer on the page that states there are no Beatles mp3's available.
My bad. Thanks for pointing that out! I was looking at song names and not the actual performer.
Gail: pretty much any place that sells CDs has Beatles CDs. Are you not close to ANY Target, Wal Mart, Barnes & Noble, Borders, Hastings, or even local music shops?
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/30/2009 4:18:58 AM
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First of all... My cd burner is on the fritz. I've only been using a cd-rom, cause I'm broke.
2) copying junk off for people is illegal, just as illegal as downloading from peer to peer programs.
3) if you were gonna get the songs illegally anyway, just download them off uTorrent or something. Who cares :P if Paul wasn't so greedy, they're stuff would be on iTunes, so I say serves him right.
He said "apple seems to think a song is worth 99 cents, we feel very differently about that" what, are you gonna sell these songs for 3 bucks a pop?!? Come on Paul!
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/30/2009 11:33:21 PM
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The thing is I only want certain songs and none are available on-line. No where. My dance teacher checked. Maybe she didn't check where you said and I will try that. I don't want them on CD. Not the whole CD. I have them on vinyl, why would I want them on CD except that the format is smaller? Some of the ones I want are off of the first Beatles album released here and no one will have that. I like so many that I can't pick just one so I want my teacher to listen to them and help me. I had Glass Onion on CD and I liked it but she didn't. If her tape player was working I could tape the songs for her. It's not and right now mine isn't either. That is the only reason I asked. I'm sorry if I was trying to do something illegal. I didn't know that I was. I don't think being unable to find anything has anything to do with Paul either. Michael Jackson outbid Paul for the rights to all of their songs and before him, someone else owned them. They sold the rights to the songs a long time ago, something they never should have done.
We do have one small record store and a WalMart and Target. I will have to check all of them but I guarantee they probably will not have the ones I want. Selection of Beatle anything is almost nill. Thanks anyway though.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/31/2009 6:27:39 AM
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The thing is I only want certain songs and none are available on-line. No where. My dance teacher checked. Maybe she didn't check where you said and I will try that. I don't want them on CD. Not the whole CD. I have them on vinyl, why would I want them on CD except that the format is smaller? Some of the ones I want are off of the first Beatles album released here and no one will have that. I like so many that I can't pick just one so I want my teacher to listen to them and help me. I had Glass Onion on CD and I liked it but she didn't. If her tape player was working I could tape the songs for her. It's not and right now mine isn't either. That is the only reason I asked. I'm sorry if I was trying to do something illegal. I didn't know that I was. I don't think being unable to find anything has anything to do with Paul either. Michael Jackson outbid Paul for the rights to all of their songs and before him, someone else owned them. They sold the rights to the songs a long time ago, something they never should have done.
We do have one small record store and a WalMart and Target. I will have to check all of them but I guarantee they probably will not have the ones I want. Selection of Beatle anything is almost nill. Thanks anyway though.
Again, the release of the "Beatles Rock Band" game, nearly all of the original Beatles albums were re-released. I can find all of them in any of five stores within a few miles of me, and I don't live in a big city.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/31/2009 8:14:17 AM
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Gotta agree with Maninal, with the stores loading up for Christmas, and the release of the new re-mastered discs combined with the Rock Band release I'd be surprised if you couldn't find them.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/31/2009 8:38:48 AM
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well, before i bought them i downloaded the entire discography of a torrent peer-to-peer server, the whole reason i even got into the beatles was reading an ac/dc book, angus made several mentions of being inspired by beatles, and ramones were DIRECTLY inspired by old old (pre-signed) beatles. so i decided to download the whole discography to see what was up. i was impressed, so when the boxset came out i bought it. beatles mp3s are available out the wazoo, on illegal peer-to-peer like BitTorrent clients and so on. i dont condone the use, but as far as i'm concerned... if you own the stupid records, its not illegal to obtain the songs in mp3... thats called backing up your media. i can run my record lpayer through my pc and create mp3s of my records for my ipod, so why not cut teh middle man and just download teh blooming thing off a peer-to-peer? (i could be wrong, but if i was in court, i'd use that excuse, and completely go off on them in a morbid fit of rage if they didnt drop the charges after i explained.)
as far as michael jackson, your slightly confused, so heres a link to better explain the scenario...
and on yahoo... i saw this... just posted... YESTERDAY.... interesting.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 10/31/2009 11:50:37 PM
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Will try Bluebeat. Thanks for sending that. I'll send it to my dance teacher. I think she still has my list of songs. Maybe we can get them before they go out.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 11/1/2009 3:43:46 PM
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Will try Bluebeat. Thanks for sending that. I'll send it to my dance teacher. I think she still has my list of songs. Maybe we can get them before they go out.
Is it really necessary for you to steal from the artist simply because you claim poverty or, according to Keith's rational, already own another form of the music media?
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 11/1/2009 6:33:12 PM
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I have a lot of Beatles on vinyl and some on cassette but not much. I have only a few on CD and those are the double CD of the old and newer songs that are remixed versions with them talking on some of them, stuff like that. Unreleased stuff. Paul came on TV on Entertainment Tonight saying that the new stuff would sound just like you were in the studio with them. They were remastered in the 80's. I know technology has improved but the price is outrageous!
Do you have to have an expensive player to hear it like Paul says? Do you feel it's worth it? Unless the price goes down, I will not be buying it anytime in the near future.
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Do you feel it's worth it?
Since Mike Jackson died... who now owns the rights to the Beatles music?
The Jackson estate.. or someone we should not be supporting?
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 11/2/2009 2:13:52 AM
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Once again... Michael and Sony only own the rights to the LYRICS not the actual songs. The beatles/apple/parlaphone/EMI own the songs themselves.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 11/2/2009 8:04:21 AM
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Will try Bluebeat. Thanks for sending that. I'll send it to my dance teacher. I think she still has my list of songs. Maybe we can get them before they go out.
Is it really necessary for you to steal from the artist simply because you claim poverty or, according to Keith's rational, already own another form of the music media?
I am forced to agree, though the legality of obtaining copies in a different media than that which you already own is a legal issue that needs to be cleared up.
I personally don't see that as an issue, and have downloaded digital copies of albums that I have on cassette tape. As keith said, I could copy them myself, but the end result is that I still have digital backups of music I legally purchased.
If it is illegal, though, then I will never do it again. I highly regard law and I also highly regard "giving the worker his wages".
Music isn't a necessity, it is a luxury. No reason to break the law obtaining it.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 11/2/2009 9:59:57 AM
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My favorite anti-piracy disclaimer:
"Warning! Unauthorized duplication is a violation of applicable laws and is similar to someone just walking up to us, kicking us in the shins, giving us a noogie, and taking any money we have left in our wallet. It won't kill us, but it sure make life a little harder." From Jill Phillips' "Nobody's Got It All Together" album.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 11/2/2009 10:50:16 PM
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A question, guys. You all talk about what is legal and what is illegal.
When my new record player comes with a dual cassette player, what is the other one for? If I make cassettes for my friends, that's illegal, right? What about in the 80's, when my ex-BFF made me a mix tape of Beatle songs along with other artists? She did it in her bedroom and it sounds very professional. She gave it to me for a birthday gift. Was that not kosher?
How about when we record something off of the TV? Is that legal?
How about getting a turntable that I saw in Brookstone that lets you hook it up to your computer and make Cd's out of your vinyl? I'm not getting that but it looked cool.
I knew about buying a Bootleg of something but not sure about the other stuff. Is this like one of those things that are like a gray area? I'm never sure if I am breaking any laws or not.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 11/3/2009 1:02:12 AM
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don't ban me here, but this is just my oppinion... i'm not saying anyone can take it, but its still MHO,
-recording a tape from a record is illegal... but who cares.
-recording a mix cd/tape for a freind is illegal... but who cares
-law allows you to be able to make ONE copy of any media you purchase, so thats why you can make a cop of cds for your ipod, or copy off your records for your tape collection....
-i make all kindsa of copies of my stuff, i dont put it online, or sell it to my friends, but i make numerous copies of my material. sometimes i edit my stuff, sometimes i remaster it if it sounds bad, sometimes i cut down songs that just go on too long (hey jude... i could easily make that a 4 min. songs and not bad an eyelash) i'm sure thats all frowned upon... but once again... who cares
-as long as your not posting it online, or selling it to friends, or copying an ENTIRE album for friends, i do whatever the heck i want. i make mix cds/tapes for my friends... its called RECRUITING FANS.
-its legal to record stuff off tv, its not legal to broadcast it to your friends though in a party setting afterward.... but who cares.
if you already own teh records, just download the mp3s free from peer-to-peer. it doesnt matter. if teh fbi knocks on your door, show em the vinyls. if i can mp3 my cd, to my ipod... i can mp3 my record to my ipod... if i don't have teh technology to do that (which i do and do it frequently, but still) if i dont, i should be able to get it from someone who has teh mp3s already.
a few of you are making a bigger deal out of this than it should be. if i buy a record or cd or tape... i should have teh freedom to listen to it ANYWHERE and in ANY MEDIUM i choose. i bought the rights to broadcast the songs to myself on my personal system.... so i shold have the flexibility to choose which system to play it on based on what is available.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 11/3/2009 2:50:24 AM
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With all due respect, Keith, you are placing your personal non-essential desires over the law.
Music is a luxury, not a right. Therefore, and especially as Christians, we should be obedient to the laws of the lad that don't cause us to sin. If the law says an artist is entitled to a certain amount of money from their work, then that is what they get. In America, the free market will decide what things are worth.
You say, "but who cares", regarding all of the laws regarding copyrights. ou may not LIKE those laws, but you have no right to disregard them based on your personal lusts for music.
The answer is, "lots of people care", including the artist, the producing studio, and the judges who won't hesitate to convict you of breaking a law which is pretty hard to break unless you completely disregard law.
Just MHO.
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RE: Is anyone going to buy the new Beatles boxed set? - 11/3/2009 5:17:00 AM
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With all due respect, Keith, you are placing your personal non-essential desires over the law.
Music is a luxury, not a right. Therefore, and especially as Christians, we should be obedient to the laws of the lad that don't cause us to sin. If the law says an artist is entitled to a certain amount of money from their work, then that is what they get. In America, the free market will decide what things are worth.
You say, "but who cares", regarding all of the laws regarding copyrights. ou may not LIKE those laws, but you have no right to disregard them based on your personal lusts for music.
The answer is, "lots of people care", including the artist, the producing studio, and the judges who won't hesitate to convict you of breaking a law which is pretty hard to break unless you completely disregard law.
Just MHO.
i agree with your attitude, because i share teh same attitude...
anyway, i do NOT condone going willy nilly on peer-to-peer and downloading music "just cause its free" i am a very avid music purchaser. i have been an integral part of the independant music machine for about 13 years now. i see how things affect the bands (and have also have bands like The Showdown and Frodus, to name a couple who have told me to just download their cds off peer-to-peer cause they don't get any money off them anyway.) i have seen both sides of teh argument. i feel like if at all possible... buy the cd. i own a 6 foot shelf with cds in it from ceiling to floor. i have 100s of records. i have invested alot of money in music. so i dont place my own personal desires above law. i respect the law. i adhere to the law...
but there are cases the law doesnt make sense, and i wonder if we the people are just interpretting teh law wrong. maybe teh laws were never even intended to be taken this strict?
take in term the mix cd/mix tape for your friend... if i let my buddy just borrow my cd.... hes just going to burn it. so the record company lost. or i could burn it for him... again a loss. or i could suggest him check out the cd that has only sold 2000 copies nationwide because the band is an indie artists and not on teh radio... my friend may not care enough to sift out mom and pop record shops, or amazon to order a cd hes never heard before, just cause i said its good... so i make him a mix cd of maybe 2 songs per band with about 10 bands on it. he listens, he dicides what he likes, and i tell him what records each song is on, the record company wins because he buys records. WHY IS THIS NOT LEGAL YET!?!?! seriously why are they dragging their feet? so i say screw em. i could single handedly recruit a heck of a lot more album sales then the record industry can just on mix cds, so its one of those things, the pros outweigh the cons anyway.
"You say, "but who cares", regarding all of the laws regarding copyrights. ou may not LIKE those laws, but you have no right to disregard them based on your personal lusts for music. "
its not a lust for me, it should be common sence. as i said i dont agree with blatant disregard for music purchase... that should be punishable by hanging.
i went and saw Solid State Records recording artist The Showdown a year ago, and was blown away by what i heard. i talked to them after the show and asked them what record the songs were from, heres a transcripts:
k:"you guys were awesome tonight. by the way majority of the songs you guys did were those from your first record, second, or most recent record? cause i really want to buy it when i get home."
sd:"all the songs were from our most recent record except 1 song was from our debut release. don't bother buying it. just go home and download it off a peer-to-peer. we don't get the money anyway, so who cares."
k:"nah, i'd prefer to buy it, but thats cool"
sd:"whatever, man. yor call"
just wondering what do you think about this scenario? the artist actually encouraging piracy?
i am an advocate for copyright laws, anti-piracy laws, and all this... it SICKENS me to see people who go "why do you buy cds keith? you do know on teh internet you can download them for free."ABSOLUTELY makes me sick. but there needs to be stipulations, and that will encourage even more buying... i think.
and as far as the record-mp3 thing... i really do wonder if we the pople are completely taking this law out of context, and the RIAA, not even caring. i have 100s of vinyl, and its a PAIN STAKING process of hooking up the turntable, normalizing the audio, having to record one side, flip it, record the other, then break it down into individual songs, its a pain! unfortunately most are Tooth & Nail releases from the 90s, and no one has them on torrent, or i'd just download em. the only reason i even have them is T&N was having a closeout sale on vinyl when they phased out vinyl releases in 2000, and it was like 12" for 5 bucks, 7" for 3, so i stocked up on albums that were 12 bucks for cd OR 7 bucks for eps. i payed for em, directly from the label itself... so i'm not taking money from them to download it, or burn the album from a friend who has it on cd.
and there are artists that i believe in 100% support of: ac/dc, the beatles, the blamed, starflyer 59, joy electric, huntingtons, to name a few i own their entire unabridged discographies. thats proably about 1000 dollars worth of purchase in and of itself! just clarifying that im not a selfish moron.
your oppinion?
PS. and just to further illistrate my inherent desire to support artists, one of my favorite bands/artists of all time Starflyer 59 has been releaseing records since 1993, they have 20 official releases on Tooth And Nail records that are covered by Neilson Soundscan (and about 19 independant releases not) as far as the official releases- 16 years, and 20 records= about 50,000 record sales in all. the highest selling record being Leave Here A Stranger from 1999 selling at around 3200 copies i believe in record sales!! lol its a shame britney spears can go quad-platinum but this guy can't even go Gold. =( or even WOOD! he/they are still on T&N miraculously... i'm surprised EMI hasnt given them the axe, seeing how greedy they are with teh beatles (T&N is owned by EMI now)
huntingtons- have 14 official releases (27 in all) and their highest grossing record was barely topping 2000 copies for 1998's High School Rock on Tooth And Nail records. which is another shame, cause i thought they were the most original punk band in the 90s era T&N crop, T&N ultimately dropped them because they couldnt even hit 1000 copies for 2001's Songs In The Key Of You which i thought was a LAND MARK release for them, i thought.
i believe in buying records, those figures are too astonishing to just download and steal from.
PPS: i bought the newest The Almost ep a month ago, it came with a screen printed official cd-r of teh full length and a voucher to download teh digital release today for the included price of the ep, so you can burn it to the included cd-r. howveer the digital release will more than likely be 320 kbps... is it wrong of me to download a 1126 kbps lossless flac copy of the album, just to burn it to the included cd-r? i don't want a sub-par copy for my cd player. i have a surround sound system and cd-rs burned from mp3s do not do the system (nor my ears) justice. i've already payed for it...
another issue that is disregarded by "laws"
(edited to delete a bunch of nonsense)
< Message edited by keithyhuntington -- 11/3/2009 3:18:41 PM >
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