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Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/21/2008 8:02:12 PM   
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

Hmmm..

Is this an issue?
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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/21/2008 8:06:26 PM   
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Well, considering the amount of money saved, comparatively, by flying commercial and getting rid of the official governor's jet, I'd say it would be kind of an odd issue to pursue...

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/21/2008 8:08:54 PM   
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Well you can take this a couple of different ways. If you support Palin then you will see this as another attack by the media to attack Palin and undermine her role as a working mother. If you support Obama this will be more proof that Palin abuses her powers and that her kids get special treatment.

Personally, I think this is a distraction and I want to talk about the candidates view on Education and healthcare, and other pressing issues. This is just my opinion!
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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/21/2008 8:12:57 PM   
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These attacks on Palin this year have turned me from a moderate Democrat into likely at the very least a solid Republican for years to come. I admire her for continually standing up to the pirhanas that call themselves the mainstream media.

I'm ashamed to say that I once scoffed at the notion of the liberal biased media.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/21/2008 8:13:22 PM   
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She altered official government records! This is a crime! And Republicans have the audacity to bring up character when the VP obviously is a very unethical person!

Strain for the gnat with Obama and swallow the camel with Palin /McCain!

Well this lady is going to lose the election for McCain guaranteed!

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/21/2008 9:36:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CubFanBrian

These attacks on Palin this year have turned me from a moderate Democrat into likely at the very least a solid Republican for years to come. I admire her for continually standing up to the pirhanas that call themselves the mainstream media.

I'm ashamed to say that I once scoffed at the notion of the liberal biased media.

This year, I have seen the light!


Now if we can just get you to root for the Cardinals instead of the Cubies we would be on to something (Though to be honest I was hoping the Cubbies would go and face TB in the WS.)

As for the topic at hand...I wonder if Sen Obama's family when they travel with him, fly commercial or do they lease a PRIVATE plane at tax payers expense? Secondly, originally one of the slams against Gov Palin was that how could she be a mother AND the VP? And now she is taking her children with her, and she is being attacked? Guess it does not matter what she does she is going to be attacked by the liberal biased media.
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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/21/2008 9:52:49 PM   
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

Hmmm..

Is this an issue?


No it is not. An article from the Anchorage Daily News ... that has the WHOLE story ... not just part of it ...

Leighow noted that Palin's travel expenses last year — $114,000 — were far less than those submitted the previous year by Gov. Frank Murkowski — the Republican Palin beat in the primary to cement her reputation as a reformer willing to take on members of her own party. Murkowski's travel expenses for 2006 totaled $516,000.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/21/2008 10:58:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: solomonsprayer

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

Hmmm..

Is this an issue?


No it is not. An article from the Anchorage Daily News ... that has the WHOLE story ... not just part of it ...

Leighow noted that Palin's travel expenses last year — $114,000 — were far less than those submitted the previous year by Gov. Frank Murkowski — the Republican Palin beat in the primary to cement her reputation as a reformer willing to take on members of her own party. Murkowski's travel expenses for 2006 totaled $516,000.


So? Is Murkowski McCain's choice for VP?

Palin was the one that brought up truthfulness and being of higher ethical caliber and she's falsifying government records and using public funds and power for her own personal agenda. Take the plank out, Sarah, before pointing to the speck! "It's all about character!" But since she's pro-life we can overlook all the other stuff, right?

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/21/2008 11:52:54 PM   
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As a former resident of Alaska for 18 years, I read the local paper online frequently. There was a letter to the editor in the Fairbanks Daily News Miner several weeks prior to her announcement as the VP pick. The author of the letter wrote about how classy the governor was. A high school football team from Fairbanks was flying home from Anchorage and Sarah was flying coach on the flight. She spent the flight talking with the players and their parents.. After landing, she spoke with everyday, ordinary Joe's in the airport just like the average citizen. She is someone who connects with the middle class. And, being from Alaska she can represent the nation as the majority of Alaskan's come from all parts of the United States and the world.

Barack, like you Mapachito, has spent his life surrounded by those in ivory towers who think they're smarter than the rest of us.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 12:16:05 AM   
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Big deal if tax dollars pay for her kids to be with their mother!!! I rather give my tax dollars to that cause rather than someone who expects me to "spread the wealth around". It just goes to show how idiotic the AP really is. They need to get a life.

Besides, when you tally up all the money she's save her state, she deserves it.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 12:21:06 AM   
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Better than Obamas terroristgate.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 6:44:51 AM   
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Better than Obamas terroristgate.

SHH you can't speak ill of he who must not be named.
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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 7:37:57 AM   
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Wow...

In terms of real dollars, this obviously is not that big of a deal. However, Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers was also tenuous (sat on a board and had a small party with a guy who was a local professor) and you guys have gone off the deep end with that one. It's the principle of charging for your kids' flights that's wrong and to defend it with a bunch of "yeah, but" lines...?

Keep up the hypocrisy, guys, and keep wondering why the rest of America sees you and your beliefs as less-and-less relevant with every election.

-Dan.

< Message edited by iluvatar -- 10/22/2008 7:45:07 AM >


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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 7:42:29 AM   
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Well, considering the amount of money saved, comparatively, by flying commercial and getting rid of the official governor's jet, I'd say it would be kind of an odd issue to pursue...


Its typical of the Dem party, these are the thing they do because they are losing, and when She wins watch what records are going to revelaed in like manner by McCain.




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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 7:43:53 AM   
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SHH you can't speak ill of he who must not be named.


Oh, how right you are!

http://www.comics.com/editoons/bok/archive/images/bok2002445681022.gif

(from an area newspaper)

On the topic at hand. If she wants to travel with her kids good for her. She needs to keep them close by especially that out of control Bristol. If she saved money by changing things up and adding the family that is wonderful.

Since it was mentioned, if Obama wants to travel with his family that is awesome. If they do travel with him, great. etc. etc...

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 7:53:22 AM   
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quote:

SHH you can't speak ill of he who must not be named.


Oh, how right you are!

http://www.comics.com/editoons/bok/archive/images/bok2002445681022.gif

(from an area newspaper)

On the topic at hand. If she wants to travel with her kids good for her.


It wasn't (mostly) that she traveled with her kids. It was that the state paid for it and that she changed the records to make them say that the kids were invited.

I say "mostly" because I do question the wisdom of bringing a 7 year old to meetings.

-Dan.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 8:05:45 AM   
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I took a course on Alaska for my travel agency and was quite surprised to see that 'you can't GET THERE from here' when it comes to Alaska. You HAVE to fly! There are no roads in many, many areas. Flying is the only option.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 11:34:18 AM   
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Wow...

In terms of real dollars, this obviously is not that big of a deal. However, Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers was also tenuous (sat on a board and had a small party with a guy who was a local professor) and you guys have gone off the deep end with that one. It's the principle of charging for your kids' flights that's wrong and to defend it with a bunch of "yeah, but" lines...?

Keep up the hypocrisy, guys, and keep wondering why the rest of America sees you and your beliefs as less-and-less relevant with every election.

-Dan.


Agreed. I think she showed a lack of ethics in her position. I think anyone who does that, even if Obama did that with his kids, I would say the same thing. I'm sure she could have paid for them but she didn't, instead she went that route on the tax payer's dime. Hopefully she'll take it as a lesson learned.
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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 11:44:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: solomonsprayer

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

Hmmm..

Is this an issue?


it's amazing that these little "issues" are blown up out of proportion, when it comes to Sarah.
But, when it comes to Barack, well, those are "attacks"...they are "not an issue"....it's "dirty politics"......time to "kill the messenger".....

But, who is asking Barack about his ties to the domestic terrorist?
Who in the media is showing concern about Barack's past...his "community organizing", with folks like ACORN?
His ties to that Rezko guy...
Why he stuck around the church, who CLEARLY had a "hate america/racist" pastor?
Who is showing any concern for his "spread the wealth around" agenda?

Trent Lott gets kicked out of the senate for being nice to Strom Thurmond....one wonders what would have happened if he had a pastor as racist as Obama's.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 11:56:32 AM   
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So then she should have kept the jet, had the kids fly with her, been more comfortable and not had to deal with airports and stuff, and nobody would have complained despite the fact that the cost would have been over 5 TIMES what it was?

That makes a lot of sense. o.O

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 12:24:01 PM   
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There was a piece on the news last night about the amount of money spent in MN on the Palin's for wardrobe, hair and makeup for Palin and her family. Does the mainstream media have nothing better to do? If they want to look at the dollars spent on the Palin's, why not look into the dollars spent on the )Obama's as well?

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 1:26:53 PM   
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

Hmmm..

Is this an issue?


Yep, to my eyes it is an issue as I do come from a culture build by nepotism I have problems with any hints that smell nepotism.

I do not take it lightly as myself in her position would pay by my own pocket and deal with discount the airlines and hotels could provide etc I would not feel confy at all in this situation and make provisions no one would have anything to say about my family arragaments while I would travelling in official business.

I do not think this situation is right to anyone in public office, or any profession to carry family entourage and themselves not paying for the extra costs. Hmm so many moms wanting good affordable day care to leave their kids safe while they work are not being helped out and many times may have to leave their kids in not so good arrangaments and under care of others or even alone and etc

No way! A person on "top" must give good exemple, in my view she did not.

I do find strange many here find the situation "ok". well...ok than.



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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 1:29:13 PM   
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Well, it's a comparison.

We're comparing the cost of her buying tickets for her kids to go with her for a commercial flight, with the cost of her keeping the private governor's jet and using that for the flight, and frankly, it's cheaper. But ironically, no one would have cared about the kids tagging along on the private governor's jet.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 1:42:34 PM   
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There was a piece on the news last night about the amount of money spent in MN on the Palin's for wardrobe, hair and makeup for Palin and her family. Does the mainstream media have nothing better to do? If they want to look at the dollars spent on the Palin's, why not look into the dollars spent on the )Obama's as well?


Yeah, It was about 150,000, but it was GOP money, not tax payors'. She must have had a coupon from John Edwards' stylist.

Seriously, it is nearly impossible to be in government and not run afoul of some of these regs. There ought to be some latitude for families of elected officials, but it's hard to get agreement on what is "reasonable".

At this point I'm voting for McCain in spite of Palin. She is clearly in over her head and some of these ethical lapses are from inexperience rather than corruption. God forbid she had to step in and run the country early in the McCain presidency.

This thread is not about Obama, so take those comments to one of the sixty-two threads on him.

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RE: Palin's Kids Travelgate - 10/22/2008 1:46:46 PM   
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Well, it's a comparison.

We're comparing the cost of her buying tickets for her kids to go with her for a commercial flight, with the cost of her keeping the private governor's jet and using that for the flight, and frankly, it's cheaper. But ironically, no one would have cared about the kids tagging along on the private governor's jet.



I forgot about the Gov jet...

Still people, how common is to parents take kids to offficial engagements in US ? How many business men owning their own business do that? I do not think is common at all US people are very profissional serious ones..but I am not sure..what do I know?

Where are the reliable sitters?


With all do respect to parents, some engagements invitations are for parents/adults only even when is not relate to profissional stuff. Sorry if I am not being sensitive as I am not a parent.

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