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Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Abortion - 11/3/2009 4:29:31 PM
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The former director of a Planned Parenthood clinic in southeast Texas says she had a "change of heart" after watching an abortion last month — and she quit her job and joined a pro-life group in praying outside the facility.
Abby Johnson, 29, used to escort women from their cars to the clinic in the eight years she volunteered and worked for Planned Parenthood in Bryan, Texas. But she says she knew it was time to leave after she watched a fetus "crumple" as it was vacuumed out of a patient's uterus in September.
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Johnson said she became disillusioned with her job after her bosses pressured her for months to increase profits by performing more and more abortions, which cost patients between $505 and $695.
"Every meeting that we had was, 'We don't have enough money, we don't have enough money — we've got to keep these abortions coming,'" Johnson told FoxNews.com. "It's a very lucrative business and that's why they want to increase numbers." LINK
Though Abby Johnson worked their for several years and was complicit in the murder of hundreds of babies, (maybe thousands) I'm glad she finally quit. I've asked a few people who were pro-abortion if they have ever seen abortion pics and they always have told me know. I guess there is some truth in the addage "out of sight, out of mind".
Though the PP spokeswoman said that they offer a wide range of services, she didn't admit that the NON-PROFIT PP made a killing in 2006 with a revenue of over $1 BILLION and a PROFIT of over $112 million. How many of you believe the $335 MILLION+ it receives from taxpayer dollars is used for "family planning" and not abortions?
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/3/2009 4:41:08 PM
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Hopefully, Congress will see the light as they did with ACORN and cut off all funding to Planned Parenthood. Btw, how many of you give to United Way? They give to PP as well.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/3/2009 5:31:19 PM
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Btw, how many of you give to United Way? They give to PP as well.
I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/3/2009 5:32:48 PM
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Just so you know, you can also direct any United Way donations to specific organizations in most areas, thus avoiding any such issues.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/3/2009 7:01:46 PM
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Just so you know, you can also direct any United Way donations to specific organizations in most areas, thus avoiding any such issues.
While partially true, only if your employer allows it (if you give through your employer), I would still avoid an organization that sees PP as a valid organization to give to.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/3/2009 7:13:55 PM
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I would still avoid an organization that sees PP as a valid organization to give to.
I would have to agree.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/3/2009 7:28:37 PM
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I would still avoid an organization that sees PP as a valid organization to give to.
I would have to agree.
x2 on the agreement. There are SO many excellent and well directed choices for contributions I see no reason to support United Way and try to figure out where and how they use your money in direct opposition to what you believe. I know there is sometimes workplace pressure for this... I've never had to really get into it with a boss, but my ready answer would have been that I support a range of charities and causes thank you - I don't need United Way and my employer to help me.
to the OP... the reality behind the pro-choice stance is pretty hard to face head on - if this is accurate it's good to win the hearts of the pro-choicers one at a time this way.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 1:43:35 AM
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<jerry seinfeld>whats the deal with "planned parenthood." they give you the pill, and adminster abortions... shouldnt it be called planned un-parenthood??</jerry seinfeld>
the reason the office is there is to help people AVOID pregnancy, not plan it out :P
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 8:12:02 AM
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It's kind of like the first time car buyer....the dealer shoves you the papers and you sign, not knowing the actual cost.
Most people know abortion clinics are about the $$$$$ and not the welfare of the girl who is pregnant.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 10:19:17 AM
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It's kind of like the first time car buyer....the dealer shoves you the papers and you sign, not knowing the actual cost.
Most people know abortion clinics are about the $$$$$ and not the welfare of the girl who is pregnant.
Don't forget the founder of PP was Margaret Sanger, one who was an abortion advocate because it would keep the minority numbers low.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 2:20:43 PM
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Update: Planned Parenthood Puts Restraining Order on Former Director
Planned Parenthood has found itself in a legal battle with a former director who said she had a change of heart after watching an ultrasound for an abortion and quit the organization .
KBTX of Bryan/College Station, Texas, reports that Abby Johnson worked for Planned Parenthood for eight years, and two years as director, but joined forces with the Coalition For Life earlier this month, praying with volunteers outside the clinic.
Johnson said she was told to bring in more women who wanted abortions, something the Episcopalian churchgoer recently became convicted about. "I feel so pure in heart [since leaving]. I don't have this guilt, I don't have this burden on me anymore that's how I know this conversion was a spiritual conversion."
Planned Parenthood filed a temporary restraining order October 30 to prevent Johnson from disclosing information about the organization.
Of course they don't want her talking. She'll expose them for the frauds that they are. Not to mention the horrific murderers they are.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 2:40:08 PM
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Isn't this how the movie "The Silent Scream" came into being? Dr. Nathanson wanted to make a movie showing that abortion was OK and ended up proving to himself and the world that it wasn't?
I know around these boards I am known as a lib in certain areas but on this subject I am definitely in the ranks of conservatives.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 3:51:26 PM
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We give to CareNet, a pro life organization that helps women with crisis pregnancies.
In our neck of the woods, the Carenet office is just across the street from the Planned Parenthood office. After a long time, PP gained enough respect for Carenet so that, once in a while, they refer people across the street.
Often, Carenet is the only place where they can gat information about what kind of help is available if they decide not to terminate the pregnancy. Most of the official advice is heavily biased in favor of abortion.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 8:57:57 PM
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If a director was shocked by the reality of abortion when she saw it, I really wonder just how "informed" women are after they go through PP's "informed consent" process before an abortion. 
Not very well at all.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 10:40:56 PM
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Don't forget the founder of PP was Margaret Sanger, one who was an abortion advocate because it would keep the minority numbers low.
hmmm..wonder what the stats are on actual abortions based on the mother's ethnicity. I know it is astounding to read the stats on number of abortions performed each day. Makes me wonder how God can even allow this country to last another hour.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 10:47:11 PM
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If a director was shocked by the reality of abortion when she saw it, I really wonder just how "informed" women are after they go through PP's "informed consent" process before an abortion.
Many times I've called "pro-choice" "pro-death" instead since that is the opposite of "pro-life". If it really was about "pro-choice", don't you think the female getting the abortion would be given all of the available information so that she could make an informed decision? When states either offer a sonogram or tell a woman about their baby, the pro-deathers have tried to block this action in court.
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More states consider mandating ultrasounds before abortions
Abortion foes have a new tactic: The hope that women can't look away.
Lawmakers in 11 states are considering bills that would offer or require ultrasounds before a woman gets an abortion. The most stringent are proposed laws in Nebraska, Indiana and Texas, which would require a doctor show the ultrasound image of the fetus to the woman, despite legal challenges to a similar measure in Oklahoma.
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Oklahoma's law was supposed to go into effect Nov. 1, but a judge put it on hold after the Center for Reproductive Rights filed a lawsuit saying it intrudes on privacy, endangers health and assaults dignity.
"They really do not even veil their goal, which is to make a woman feel badly and to make her change her mind," said Celine Mizrahi, a lawyer for the New York-based center. "It really is a ridiculous position to put the doctor and patient in."
Most women who have decided to terminate a pregnancy have made the decision after considering facts and options, Mizrahi said. And the medical procedure, she said, is between a doctor and a patient. LINK 1
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/4/2009 11:05:07 PM
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Don't forget the founder of PP was Margaret Sanger, one who was an abortion advocate because it would keep the minority numbers low.
hmmm..wonder what the stats are on actual abortions based on the mother's ethnicity. I know it is astounding to read the stats on number of abortions performed each day. Makes me wonder how God can even allow this country to last another hour.
Though blacks make up approximately 13% of Americans, they have almost 37% of all abortions.
Census Bureau LINK
See Table 1, 2003-2005 CDC LINK
I've posted this before, but some still haven't seen the ugly truth:
Black genocide LINK
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/5/2009 1:50:45 PM
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Its unfortunate that the dehumanization of the baby is couched in terms of "fetus, cluster of cells, non-viable, etc." When a portion of society is marginalized in this way, they easily become expendable in those societies.
The more I learned about the development of the baby in the womb, the more abhorred I become that someone would do this act intentionally.
The pro-life movement has been damaged greatly by some of the fanaticism of its adherents that manifests itself in bombings and shootings. All that is required is a rational and rather scientific explanation of why a "fetus" is a baby - a little human being.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/5/2009 5:31:38 PM
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I am not a regular to this thread, but I had to say something when I saw some of your posts. I think something important to remember is that when abortion is outlawed, women die. Look at where in the world abortion is illegal -- you'd be shocked by how many women die because they don't have access to a safe abortion. Death is not easy for anyone to witness, and don't assume that Pro-Choice proponents see it as such. There are moral arguments on both sides, and name-calling on either side will get us nowhere. Can we strive to make abortion safe and rare? Many assume women who get abortions are immoral and ignorant, but I'll bet you'd be surprised who you know has gotten an abortion. Abortion is not a black and white issue, and treating it as such marginalizes all of us. As a Christian and a Pro-Choicer, I urge you to talk to women whose views are not yours, and look at why they made the choice they did. You may be surprised.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/5/2009 5:41:07 PM
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I think something important to remember is that when abortion is outlawed, women die. Look at where in the world abortion is illegal -- you'd be shocked by how many women die because they don't have access to a safe abortion.
This isn't quite accurate. Where abortion is illegal or unavailable, many women die because they do not have access to decent medical or maternity care. In countries where abortion is available, women still die from maternal complications not preventable by abortion, and women also die from complications from abortions themselves. Abortion is not the cure-all for maternal mortality, nor is it practiced soley to prevent women's deaths.  Furthermore, most Western countries who have abortion bans of any sort have medical exceptions to those bans, or have a legal system that allows a doctor to claim a medical exception to have an abortion done.
Ethiopia, for instance (dear to my heart because it's my husband's country), doesn't need an increased rate of abortion to reduce maternal and infant mortality. Ethiopia needs widespread, easy-to access basic health and maternity care, and an infrastructure that makes it possible for women to get emergency care for maternity complications, and a system that lowers the rates of malnutrition and preventable disease. The most basic changes health and hygeine practices would dramatically reduce mortality rates.
You can lower the population by aborting Ethiopian babies and feel good about "saving lives", but the truth is, that would be like putting a bandaid on a stab wound and pretending it's healed. And frankly, if in the developing world you can make abortion safe (not an easy task), then you'd be far better putting that money and effort into making life-promoting healthcare safe and easy to get. You'd save far more lives that way.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Ab... - 11/5/2009 5:57:23 PM
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As a Christian and a Pro-Choicer, I urge you to talk to women whose views are not yours, and look at why they made the choice they did. You may be surprised.
We cannot "come together" and "agree to disagree" on this issue because one side believes that the unborn are human with valuable, protection worthy lives of equal value to an adult's life, and the other does not.
To pro-lifers, abortion is murder. There is no sitting back and quietly accepting murder without protest.
The protest can and should be done with reason, intelligence, and without hate, but you will never be able to guilt a pro-lifer into shutting up. I have friends who are pro-abortion, even who work in Planned Parenthood and who believe they are helping women. I don't hate them, but I do belive they are wrong and that they are ultimately hurting themselves and other women, and if I believe that, why shouldn't I say it, for the sake of the women who are being hurt, if not for the sake of the babies killed?
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