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Pleading the blood - 5/31/2008 1:04:38 PM
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Little_1
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I have heard the term "plead/ing the blood" quite a lot, e.g. I have heard people use this term when they set out on a journey. They may say something like "I plead the blood of Jesus over this bus" etc. I have to admit, it brings a horrible image to mind so I'm not sure what I believe about this! The Christians I have heard use this terminology are very sincere Christians but I'm not sure what they mean because they only say "I plead the blood of Jesus" and don't give Scripture backing or examples. They are real students of God's Word also which adds to my confusion; however, I have always been a little confused about this particular subject.
Is it scriptural? Please explain if you believe it is giving Scripture support.
I have searched the Bible but cannot find any but maybe I'm missing something because I cannot find either the term or anyone in the Bible using the idea and yet so many lovely Christians continue to use this terminology.
Help appreciated.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 5/31/2008 1:17:50 PM
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It is a little bit of an old timey saying that represents one who is saved by the Sacrifice of Christ (the shedding of His blood).
That we are saved by that shedding of His blood (His death)
That by being saved by the shedding of His blood we have protection.
That by our faith in Him (and the shedding of His blood) we can do all things through Him and His Sacrifice (the shedding of His blood)
It is not weird, just a little old fashioned.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 5/31/2008 1:33:19 PM
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Little_1
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ORIGINAL: rcjames
It is a little bit of an old timey saying that represents one who is saved by the Sacrifice of Christ (the shedding of His blood).
That we are saved by that shedding of His blood (His death)
That by being saved by the shedding of His blood we have protection.
That by our faith in Him (and the shedding of His blood) we can do all things through Him and His Sacrifice (the shedding of His blood)
It is not weird, just a little old fashioned.
Thsnks
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Thanks RC.
It still doesn't sit right with me however. What if a Christian is in an automobile accident - does that mean the blood of Jesus didn't work regarding protecting them? That's going to really confuse them if they think Jesus' blood didn't protect them if they believe this terminology.
I know the Israelites put blood on the door lintles so that when the angel of death passed by - their firstborn son would not die but that was the blood being applied at the direct instruction of God to the door posts and was for a specific time, i.e. the night the angel of death would pass by.
I know Jesus' shed blood atones for sin and will be eternally grateful to God for this wonderful provision but where in God's Word does it say the blood of Jesus protects us from accidents, house break-ins, etc? Where or how does the protection factor come into the blood of Jesus?
I may have to do a study because I don't want to close my mind to something that may be very important and relevant. On the other hand - I don't want to accept this terminology either simply because other respected Christians do. I want to know why I believe something.
I hope I'm not coming across as being a pest. Sorry if I am. I just want to know why so many Christians I respect believe this.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 5/31/2008 1:34:18 PM
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Yes a little old timey in saying, and yes without the understanding of the intention ... a little weird saying.
My preference to the same meaning would be a small, simple prayer...."Jesus cover us" (whatever the situation)
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RE: Pleading the blood - 5/31/2008 1:48:34 PM
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Little_1,
I've wondered where you've been.? I'm glad to see you here.  Pray all is well with you.
I believe this reference comes from Revelation 12:11, "And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even to death."
I am not saying it is a correct use of this passage but it is dealing with how satan's work is overcome---so whenever people are in situations where they feel satan may do some nasty deed or they are feeling threatened in some way, they plead the blood of Jesus to overcome and remind him that Jesus' blood HAS already overcome him (satan).
That's how I've heard it used. Hope that is helpful to you. LL
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RE: Pleading the blood - 5/31/2008 2:10:37 PM
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Little_1
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Found this link which comes closest to what I believe regarding the OP and realise it may not be what many people believe but it's worth a read:
Link to Pleading the blood
I further believe we are given the armour of God Ephesians 6:10-18 and these are weapons of protection which God gives us to aid us against our fight with spiritual principalities and powers.
However, not finished my study - only just starting......
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RE: Pleading the blood - 5/31/2008 2:20:28 PM
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It still doesn't sit right with me however. What if a Christian is in an automobile accident - does that mean the blood of Jesus didn't work regarding protecting them? That's going to really confuse them if they think Jesus' blood didn't protect them if they believe this terminology.
Being covered by the Blood refers to our salvation, not protection from physical harm. When we ask for divine protection from physical dangers we aren't Pleading the Blood, we are asking for God to help us. Because we are His children, often He will protect us, or mitigate the effects.
Our being "in the Blood" insures our salvation...our physical well being in this life pales beside that guarantee of etrnal well being with God.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 5/31/2008 2:21:47 PM
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Little_1
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It still doesn't sit right with me however. What if a Christian is in an automobile accident - does that mean the blood of Jesus didn't work regarding protecting them? That's going to really confuse them if they think Jesus' blood didn't protect them if they believe this terminology.
Being covered by the Blood refers to our salvation, not protection from physical harm. When we ask for divine protection from physical dangers we aren't Pleading the Blood, we are asking for God to help us. Because we are His children, often He will protect us, or mitigate the effects.
Our being "in the Blood" insures our salvation...our physical well being in this life pales beside that guarantee of etrnal well being with God.
Tim
This comes closest to my own convictions. Did you read the link I posted in the post pre this one?
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/2/2008 3:33:48 AM
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Why would God give us spiritual armor as in Ephesians 6:10-18 if we could just "plead the blood" in situations for protection?
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/3/2008 11:17:15 AM
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I have always heard it used in conjunction with forgiveness. I have a funky feeling about the saying. Not sure why, but it does make me uncomfortable when people say it. Maybe it's just how it's used and by whom.
For protection, I heard people say they pray a "hedge of protection...".
This one too makes me uncomfortable. I think they both sound a little superstitious to put it nicely.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/3/2008 11:20:48 AM
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Little_1
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God had a 'hedge of protection around Job' and that is where this particular terminology came from - see Job 1:9-10
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/3/2008 11:24:40 AM
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ORIGINAL: Little_1
Found this link which comes closest to what I believe regarding the OP and realise it may not be what many people believe but it's worth a read:
Link to Pleading the blood
I think this paragraph from that link sums it up very well:
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However, pleading the blood has often taken on a meaning that goes far beyond biblical teaching. It has become a magic charm that is used in a supernatural way. This is never taught in scripture and can have serious implications. It brings us back into bondage with supernatural enchantments and magic charms. This happened to the Christians of the Middle Ages and they were soon mixing superstitions and magic with their Christianity.
In most cases that I've heard it, it's little more than rubbing a rabbit's foot or any of a number of superstitious actions rather than calling directly on the One who can deliver us.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/3/2008 11:30:13 AM
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ORIGINAL: Little_1
Found this link which comes closest to what I believe regarding the OP and realise it may not be what many people believe but it's worth a read:
Link to Pleading the blood
I think this paragraph from that link sums it up very well:
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However, pleading the blood has often taken on a meaning that goes far beyond biblical teaching. It has become a magic charm that is used in a supernatural way. This is never taught in scripture and can have serious implications. It brings us back into bondage with supernatural enchantments and magic charms. This happened to the Christians of the Middle Ages and they were soon mixing superstitions and magic with their Christianity.
In most cases that I've heard it, it's little more than rubbing a rabbit's foot or any of a number of superstitious actions rather than calling directly on the One who can deliver us.
It is concerning that Christians could be caught up in supersition and not realise it. I heard the term "plead the blood" used at Bible College many years ago by someone I greatly respected and I think this is why I have had such a problem with it. I thought because I heard it at a very reputable Bible College by a staff member that it must be correct! One of the lessons the Lord has taught me is not to put my confidence in man or princes' or Christian establishments for that matter because they can get things wrong from time-to-time also. The good thing is that such drives you to study the Word for yourself more.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/3/2008 2:10:49 PM
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This is so true. It is a process that I have struggled with for several years, now. I grew up in church thinking that you had to wear certain clothes or kneel a certain way to be spiritual. All of these things fall under the same "superstitious" umbrella. We somehow think that if we use certain words or wear the right gold cross necklace, God will give us special treatment. It is pride, if you think about it-- that if we do a certain thing or say a certain thing that we can control God into acting our our own will.
Thankfully, you are correct, only through digging in the Word do we know God's true nature. Experiences can be contrived and "Spiritual" people can be wrong. God's truth is everlasting and unchangeing. I am grateful for a God who exceeds my imagination and cannot be "conjured up."
Thanks for this topic. I had never heard the saying before, but I have heard others that are similar.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/3/2008 9:10:24 PM
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For some folks "pleading the blood" is nothing more than a verbal charm, much like catholics who who carry around little trinkets and medals, believing these things have some power to bless or protect.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/5/2008 8:01:27 PM
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Although I don't recall ever using the terminology myself, 'pleading the blood', I have been in churches in the past where people have used that phrase when praying for protection for their lives, property, etc. And - not saying that I like the phrase myself - I just thought I would share with you my understanding of where this expression came from, and what it means when someone says they 'plead the blood of Jesus.'
One of the definitions of the word 'plead' is this: Law. a. to maintain (a cause) by argument before a court. b. to allege or set forth (something) formally in an action at law. c. to allege or cite in legal defense: to plead a statute of limitations.
When someone says, "I plead the blood of Jesus," I believe it refers to their standing before the Judge and Courtroom of Heaven and saying, "What I'm praying for, I'm asking because of the sacrifice that Jesus made through His shed blood and death on the Cross."
However, I personally prefer to pray in the terminology that Jesus Himself gave us when He told us to pray in His name. Although many Christians flippantly attach a 'in Jesus' name' to the end of their prayers, this most often means to most Christians, "10-4 Good God, over and out!" and is merely something they say to let people know they are done praying. However, when we pray, "In Jesus' name," it has that similar legal (law) terminology that in effect is saying, "Lord, what I'm praying for, I'm asking on the basis of the authority and power you've invested in the mighty name of Jesus, and not on the basis of my own merits or goodness." Does that make sense?
Although I love all the old songs / hymns that talk about the power in the blood of Jesus (O the blood of Jesus, Are you washed, there is power in the blood), unfortunately, too many Christians in the church today (because of a watered-down man-centered self-help Gospel) don't grasp those great theological concepts. (Of course I'm generalizing here, I know there are many preachers who still proclaim Christ and Him crucified!).
Anyway, great question... good discussion! Bless you all...
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/6/2008 12:44:11 PM
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...... When someone says, "I plead the blood of Jesus," I believe it refers to their standing before the Judge and Courtroom of Heaven and saying, "What I'm praying for, I'm asking because of the sacrifice that Jesus made through His shed blood and death on the Cross."
However, I personally prefer to pray in the terminology that Jesus Himself gave us when He told us to pray in His name. Although many Christians flippantly attach a 'in Jesus' name' to the end of their prayers, this most often means to most Christians, "10-4 Good God, over and out!" and is merely something they say to let people know they are done praying. However, when we pray, "In Jesus' name," it has that similar legal (law) terminology that in effect is saying, "Lord, what I'm praying for, I'm asking on the basis of the authority and power you've invested in the mighty name of Jesus, and not on the basis of my own merits or goodness." Does that make sense?
Although I love all the old songs / hymns that talk about the power in the blood of Jesus (O the blood of Jesus, Are you washed, there is power in the blood), unfortunately, too many Christians in the church today (because of a watered-down man-centered self-help Gospel) don't grasp those great theological concepts. (Of course I'm generalizing here, I know there are many preachers who still proclaim Christ and Him crucified!).
Anyway, great question... good discussion! Bless you all...
Thanks for your post Christopher. It is a very well explained post and hopefully will help others to understand the difference between using the name of Jesus in prayer (according to God's Word) and the error or "pleading the blood" for protection. God has given us the Spiritual Armor for protection. Anything less is dangerous and leaves us wide open to the enemies assault when battles / storms strike.
P.S. I like these old hymns / choruses also.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/6/2008 11:23:30 PM
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Heb 10:19 - 22 (ESV) 19Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus, 20by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh, 21and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
It is through the blood of Jesus we have the confidence to enter the most Holy Place. The problem with catchphrases is the often become just a cliche and in so doing, lose their impact. i.e.I plead the blood that I get a good parking spot.
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RE: Pleading the blood - 6/7/2008 2:24:48 AM
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Little_1
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Heb 10:19 - 22 (ESV) 19Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus, 20by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh, 21and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
It is through the blood of Jesus we have the confidence to enter the most Holy Place. The problem with catchphrases is the often become just a cliche and in so doing, lose their impact. i.e.I plead the blood that I get a good parking spot.
I love the verse you quoted colliefan - it is precious.
I thank God for His atoning blood and what it means for so many.
O precious is the flow
washes me white as snow
No other fount I know -
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.
Thank You Jesus.
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