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Reading and Vision - 10/6/2009 3:49:32 PM   
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Mr. Manly has had trouble with reading. He is now ten and I decided to take him in for a developmental eye exam. He has had an eye exam in the past and was fine, but due to his continued reading problems, I took him in for a much more extensive test. It was covered by my insurance and cost me the exact same amount as a regular eye exam. I now kick myself for not having done this earlier. This post is to encourage anyone with young children to have this kind of exam rather than the usual exam. It includes the same testing as a regular eye exam, plus much more.

During the eye exam, it was discovered that Mr. Manly has trouble with “eye teaming,” which means his eyes are not working together. Here is a link to a site with a great explanation on this problem.
Reading and Vision.

Due to Mr. Manly’s other strong willed child issues, it didn’t occur to me that his reading problems had anything to do with vision. Now I wish that when I took the kids in for eye exams before that I would have taken all of them in have the developmental eye exam instead of the regular kind. If I had done that 2 ½ years ago, he would probably be over this by now.

The optometrist prescribed glasses to help his eyes work together better even though his vision is fine. This is because one eye is stronger than the other. His prescription is very low, but it should help his eyes work together better. She also prescribed exercises that we can do at home three times per day. She will do a follow up in four months to see if the problem is corrected. If not, she will prescribe more exercises, but she thinks this will correct his problem and he won’t need glasses or exercises anymore after that.

All this to say that I think it would be good for parents to take their children in for a developmental eye exam in kindergarten or first grade rather than for a regular eye exam. Most insurance covers it as a regular office visit, if you have vision coverage.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/6/2009 4:19:00 PM   
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My girl who is now 11, had the same problem as your son. She couldn't figure out how to read. We found out that she also had eye teaming problems and went to vision therapy twice a week for 9 months. The problem was she was only seeing the words as letters and not processing what she saw with her eyes. I can't say enough good things about vision therapy.

Within 3 weeks of vision therapy she could recognize some words and by 6 weeks was reading simple sentences. She was finally reading good at about 3 or 4 months into therapy. Now she is in 6th grade and is doing great and is on level.

Don't feel bad though even though I know how you feel. It is never too late to get help for vision problems. I didn't know what to do for my girl but were very blessed to meet a vision therapist at a local restaurant and he said to bring her in sometime and he would check her out, Otherwise, I am afraid she would still be struggling with reading.

I don't know how to do links but you can check out Dr. Cook's website at cookvisiontherapy.com and they may even send you his book about vision therapy.
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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/6/2009 7:59:09 PM   
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Cynthia, don't beat yourself up over it.

It took me three years to figure out that J has a form of colour-blindness as I spent that entire time thinking that his calling some greens grey was simply a slip of the tongue.

J also has a sight problem relating to his eyes not being able to change focus from far to near quickly enough to catch a ball easily. He's still seeing the ball a distance away when it's actually hitting him.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/6/2009 8:25:54 PM   
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Yeah, I agree with Kylie, you didn't connect the two, and when you did you got him the help he needed. It took me a few years to figure out that Hannah couldn't see. Then when she got her glasses and we stepped out into a shopping center with one tree in the center, the look on her face as she brightened up and said "Oh Mommy, that's sooooooo pretty!!!"... I felt so bad...she had never seen leaves before. All she saw was a big green and brown blob. Everything around her just amazed her for weeks. My brother took THIS PIC of her the day after she got her glasses...she was fascinated with the light.

I totally agree about developmental exams...it's all we have ever gotten for our kids (3 out of 5 wear glasses now).

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/6/2009 9:41:34 PM   
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Thanks ladies. I really wish I had known how easy it was to have this done. I would never had made an appointment with a regular eye doctor. We only have one developmental optometrist in our area. I made this appointment in June. It seemed like this was only something normally done if you notice a vision problem, but now I realize that this should be routine.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/6/2009 9:53:56 PM   
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I agree that it is a good exam to have...but have to agree that you cannot beat yourself up over it.

A lot of children who have eye teaming problems DO learn to read just fine...I was one of them...but it is due to also have astigmatism. It counterbalanced the effect. I ended up however, with an eye that couldn't see well, because it over worked itself.....so it is not odd that you would not connect not reading with vision issues as deep as his vision issues are either.

And...as you have pointed out...Mr. Manly is very strong willed.....

You did what you could when you could...and that is all any of us can ever do!

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/6/2009 10:54:51 PM   
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Cynthia,

Thank you so much for your post and the link. I think that you have possibly given me the tools I need to help my son. My son struggles with reading. I took him to an eye doctor 2 years ago and he was put in glasses--mostly magnifying--which my son refuses to wear. He lost the first pair ($300+), so I have not made it a big issue, knowing if I forced it, he would simply lose the second pair as well.

Anyway, I've noticed a few things--he has more trouble with reading if it is late in the day or if he has done his other subjects first (problems increase when his eyes are tired). He sometimes mixes up lines of text--I made a guide that, if used, allows only one line of text to show up at a time. This helps him a lot. He understands phonics and can spell words that he cannot read. If I break words into syllables (draw lines or cover parts) it helps. He struggles with reading small text.

I have/had some of the vision problems described in the link, so if there is a genetic component to the occurrence of these problems, he could have them too.
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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/6/2009 11:09:37 PM   
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Yep, I took Mr. Manly in for an eye exam and his vision was pronounced perfect. The normal eye exam only covers a small portion of what a developmental eye exam does. This appointment lasted for two hours and covered a whole bunch of things that the other exam didn’t. Who knew?! I didn’t realize that there is a whole battery of testing that looks for completely different things in how the eyes are working. I am thankful that I found this out and hope that it will help others to have this done even if they don’t think there is a problem. It’s worth it.

I am surprised at how little it has cost us; $30 co-pay for the appointment and $50 for the glasses. Our insurance covered part of the glasses, but even without insurance the glasses would have only been less than $60 and that includes insurance for breakage. The eye exercises are very simple. The optometrist gave us a demonstration, then a sheet of instructions to reinforce the demonstration. We will have a follow up to be sure it is corrected. If he needs further therapy, it sounds like the exercises can also be done at home, although some children do need outside help.

I hope you can get some help for your son, Creation. It sounds like he is experiencing problems that can be corrected.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/6/2009 11:35:08 PM   
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Then when she got her glasses and we stepped out into a shopping center with one tree in the center, the look on her face as she brightened up and said "Oh Mommy, that's sooooooo pretty!!!"... I felt so bad...she had never seen leaves before. All she saw was a big green and brown blob.


I remember that feeling. Sarah, do you or Paul wear glasses?

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 12:22:31 AM   
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Then when she got her glasses and we stepped out into a shopping center with one tree in the center, the look on her face as she brightened up and said "Oh Mommy, that's sooooooo pretty!!!"... I felt so bad...she had never seen leaves before. All she saw was a big green and brown blob.


I remember that feeling. Sarah, do you or Paul wear glasses?

I do...so do my mom, my dad, both of my brothers, all my grandparents.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 12:25:04 AM   
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Ok, that makes sense. I thought neither of you did, and vision is often hereditary. My parents are both blind bats, and hence, so are all of us (I have contacts, though, apparently you do too?).

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 12:33:04 AM   
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nope...I just don't have to wear my glasses to see. I just have to wear them to see well. HERE is a post from my blog with me in my glasses. I don't take many pics in them cause the light flashes in them weird.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 12:37:33 AM   
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My last pair of glasses I got the lenses which take nice photos.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 6:50:24 AM   
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Yeah, I agree with Kylie, you didn't connect the two, and when you did you got him the help he needed. It took me a few years to figure out that Hannah couldn't see. Then when she got her glasses and we stepped out into a shopping center with one tree in the center, the look on her face as she brightened up and said "Oh Mommy, that's sooooooo pretty!!!"... I felt so bad...she had never seen leaves before. All she saw was a big green and brown blob. Everything around her just amazed her for weeks. My brother took THIS PIC of her the day after she got her glasses...she was fascinated with the light.

I totally agree about developmental exams...it's all we have ever gotten for our kids (3 out of 5 wear glasses now).


Aryn got her first pair of glasses this past Spring. It was amazing to watch and witness her seeing all the things that were hard to see before! We stepped outside and she said "Wow! So that's what clouds look like!" Prior to that the only frame of reference she had was from books! We stopped by the grocery store and she actually got annoying because she kept reading all the signs and such that she knew were there before but never knew what they actually said!

Don't beat yourself up about it Cynthia. While Aryn was 11 before we were even aware she had a problem, it never cause a problem with reading. But I too felt guilty because I didn't realize everything she was missing! Those sorts of things sometimes slip by us moms, no matter how involved we are. It's okay.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 9:14:59 AM   
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Thanks ladies. I really wish I had known how easy it was to have this done. I would never had made an appointment with a regular eye doctor. We only have one developmental optometrist in our area. I made this appointment in June. It seemed like this was only something normally done if you notice a vision problem, but now I realize that this should be routine.


This is an interesting post, Cynthia. When DD had her formal development evaluation one of the things they checked was her vision, not so much her ability to see but tracking skills, etc... She was weak in tracking to one side but we chalked it up to her age and not paying much attention. I guess I'll have a formal eval done to make sure it isn't something else.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 12:45:23 PM   
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Thanks ladies. I really wish I had known how easy it was to have this done. I would never had made an appointment with a regular eye doctor. We only have one developmental optometrist in our area. I made this appointment in June. It seemed like this was only something normally done if you notice a vision problem, but now I realize that this should be routine.


This is an interesting post, Cynthia. When DD had her formal development evaluation one of the things they checked was her vision, not so much her ability to see but tracking skills, etc... She was weak in tracking to one side but we chalked it up to her age and not paying much attention. I guess I'll have a formal eval done to make sure it isn't something else.

While a formal eval would be good, it could just be her age too.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 1:29:33 PM   
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I would suggest you get a bopIt---my sone had these problems and the bopit helps his brain go left to right--and his eyes move quikly---training the eyes and the brain!!

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 8:30:25 PM   
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Video games are also excellent for eye-hand coordination. They also stimulate the brain.
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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 9:25:38 PM   
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Those kinds of things might stimulate the brain, but for a child whose brain is shutting out the one weak eye and just using the strong one, it won't necessarily help in that area. Typically a child will have to go through eye exercises (patching the strong eye so that the weak one has to work on it's own) or they have to wear glasses. (My daughter has to wear glasses to help her eyes work together). It just depends on why there is a lazy eye...muscular related or vision related. It also depends greatly on whether the child has other vision problems that add to the issues. If the brain totally shuts out the weak eye before a certain age, it is very rare that they are able to convince the brain that they have the eye again. Before that hits, they would want to do surgery to make the eyes work together. Teaming issues are really something that you have to have professionals on your team,not just a video game.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/7/2009 10:44:54 PM   
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with a bopit the eyes continually move--my sons Dr. aske us to get it for his eye problems--to excersise his eyr s

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/8/2009 12:43:55 AM   
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with a bopit the eyes continually move--my sons Dr. aske us to get it for his eye problems--to excersise his eyr s

yeah sorry...I was talking about with the video game.

Either way, the child needs to be under the direction of a competent dr to see what methods would work for their type of eye problems. (I say competent because we have btdt with idiot dr's...all they helped with was stress. One had us patching my daughters eye when her issue was not muscular it was vision related)

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/8/2009 9:01:27 AM   
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yeah sorry...I was talking about with the video game.

Either way, the child needs to be under the direction of a competent dr to see what methods would work for their type of eye problems. (I say competent because we have btdt with idiot dr's...all they helped with was stress. One had us patching my daughters eye when her issue was not muscular it was vision related)

We had a doctor try to do that to me when I was younger, he was a specialist supposedly, but our regular physician and eye doctor were like "NO...the problem is that she has a double dominance brain...she is right handed but left side dominant with her eye....."

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/8/2009 11:08:58 AM   
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I was actually speaking from experience here. I had crossed-eyes for years and finally had my last surgery when I was 20. I was left with perfectly straight eyes but horrible double vision, the doctor recommended playing video games to help with my eyes learning how to work together and also help with adjusting to double vision. It took quit awhile but it worked. I wasn't playing 2 hours a day or anything like that but about 30 minutes when I got a chance. It took about 2 years for my double vision to get almost no existent . If you get a chance to visit cookvisiontherapy.com this is an excellent site that explains eye teaming and other vision related problems.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/8/2009 12:39:45 PM   
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I was actually speaking from experience here. I had crossed-eyes for years and finally had my last surgery when I was 20. I was left with perfectly straight eyes but horrible double vision, the doctor recommended playing video games to help with my eyes learning how to work together and also help with adjusting to double vision. It took quit awhile but it worked. I wasn't playing 2 hours a day or anything like that but about 30 minutes when I got a chance. It took about 2 years for my double vision to get almost no existent . If you get a chance to visit cookvisiontherapy.com this is an excellent site that explains eye teaming and other vision related problems.

My point was that you were under a dr's care...you weren't self diagnosing and just jumping on anything you heard from here or there.

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RE: Reading and Vision - 10/8/2009 8:17:40 PM   
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I totally agree that anything done should be under a Dr's care.
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