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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/4/2008 6:15:58 PM
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rnershigh
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I've resigned myself to the fact Obama will be the next President.
Am I happy about that? Not really.
Will I throw a tantrum? No, that's silly.lol.
It's not like the world is going to stop or anything.hehe.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/4/2008 6:55:11 PM
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America has been begging and crying for a secular messiah for a quite a while now (since they obviously have no use for the real One). In five months they'll get their wish. It's going to be an interesting four years...and maybe a cluster foxtrot presidency like Obama's is just what we need to wake us all up.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/4/2008 7:07:51 PM
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PolarBear
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Don't give up hope so fast -- McCain is still doing fine. Eventually folks will realize that Obama has no real experience and has the same old-school liberal ideas.
I also think most Americans have more common sense than to pick a liberal Democrat for President when Dems have a large majority in Congress.
Remember most of 2000 and 2004 it looked like the Dem would win, but the Rep pulled through. Clinton won in 1992 and 1996 because of Perot's strong showing. Unless Bob Barr gets a lot of support, I think McCain will pull through.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/4/2008 9:04:52 PM
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Remember 2004 it looked like the Dem would win, but the Rep pulled through.
I remember it all too well. I will never forget when Tom Brokow said that John Kerry was "going out to seal the deal"..
Shortly thereafter, Kerry was back windsurfing instead of heading to the White House 
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/4/2008 9:52:21 PM
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Solus
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Don't give up hope so fast -- McCain is still doing fine. Eventually folks will realize that Obama has no real experience and has the same old-school liberal ideas.
I also think most Americans have more common sense than to pick a liberal Democrat for President when Dems have a large majority in Congress.
Remember most of 2000 and 2004 it looked like the Dem would win, but the Rep pulled through. Clinton won in 1992 and 1996 because of Perot's strong showing. Unless Bob Barr gets a lot of support, I think McCain will pull through.
Since when did McCain become a conservative?  He asked John Kerry in 2004 if he could be his running mate but was turned down. I am voting for Bob Barr. I cannot in good conscience vote for McCain, who I know will be a terrible president. If Bob Barr wins then the country will move in the right direction. If not but enough people vote for him then it will send a message to the Republican party.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/4/2008 10:27:25 PM
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PolarBear
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McCain has some conservative views but is certainly too neocon for my tastes. Without question better than Obama though.
I may also vote for Bob Barr, haven't decided.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/4/2008 10:57:22 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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McCain has some conservative views but is certainly too neocon for my tastes. Without question better than Obama though.
I may also vote for Bob Barr, haven't decided.
What conservative views are you referring to?
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/4/2008 10:57:46 PM
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Solus
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McCain has some conservative views but is certainly too neocon for my tastes. Without question better than Obama though.
I may also vote for Bob Barr, haven't decided.
Except that McCain supports the REAL ID Act, wihich will put RFID chips into ID cards, so that you can be tracked as well as the PATRIOT ACT.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 11:18:05 AM
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I cast my vote and live with the results but our voting system is a joke. Perverted Electoral vote, people voting multiple times, dead people voting, illegals voting and on and on.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 11:38:52 AM
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I will pray for him, and try and hold on, and not take any marks on hand or forehead, that involve the number six.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 12:00:44 PM
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God is in control no matter how high the price of gas or who sits in the Oval Office.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 12:05:56 PM
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lightshineon
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yep.
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God is in control no matter how high the price of gas or who sits in the Oval Office.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 12:16:49 PM
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I cast my vote and live with the results but our voting system is a joke. Perverted Electoral vote, people voting multiple times, dead people voting, illegals voting and on and on.
Voter fraud is quite rare. The myth is perpetuated by anti-immigration folks and those wanting to limit participation by the poor.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 12:56:30 PM
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Why do you conservative Crosswalkers who support McCain think McCain is a conservative?
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 1:00:36 PM
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kernsfamily
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I cast my vote and live with the results but our voting system is a joke. Perverted Electoral vote, people voting multiple times, dead people voting, illegals voting and on and on.
Voter fraud is quite rare. The myth is perpetuated by anti-immigration folks and those wanting to limit participation by the poor.
and, those who want to limit the participation by U.S. servicemen serving overseas.....
By "limit participation by the poor"....are you referring to the proposed "requirement" that someone positively IDENTIFY themselves with a driver's license or State issued ID before voting?
WHY on earth, am i allowed to go in to vote, and simply tell the guy, "My name is _____. And, iam here to vote"....and, that's it???? I could vote ALL DAY LONG....for, they have no idea who I really am....
You can't even buy cough/cold medicine today without an ID!!!!!
Now, explain to me WHY that is such a bad idea?
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The myth is perpetuated by anti-immigration folks
not "anti-immigration"......but anti-ILLEGAL immigration....
two entirely different things...please keep them separate.....
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 1:01:01 PM
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Why do you conservative Crosswalkers who support McCain think McCain is a conservative?
I do not think that. But he is clearly the most conservative of the two remaining. But he's also the most moderate. That's why he drives conservatives nuts. It's also why he was at one time the darling Republican candidate among the liberal press and why it was widely speculated that he might be a VP candidate for Kerry.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 1:02:17 PM
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RichLP
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Why do you conservative Crosswalkers who support McCain think McCain is a conservative?
I do not think that. But he is clearly the most conservative of the two remaining. But he's also the most moderate. That's why he drives conservatives nuts. It's also why he was at one time the darling Republican candidate among the liberal press and why it was widely speculated that he might be a VP candidate for Kerry.
So if you don't think McCain is a conservative, you're going to vote for him not because of what he stands for but rather because of what the other guy stands for?
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 1:12:18 PM
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kernsfamily
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Why do you conservative Crosswalkers who support McCain think McCain is a conservative?
I do not think that. But he is clearly the most conservative of the two remaining. But he's also the most moderate. That's why he drives conservatives nuts. It's also why he was at one time the darling Republican candidate among the liberal press and why it was widely speculated that he might be a VP candidate for Kerry.
So if you don't think McCain is a conservative, you're going to vote for him not because of what he stands for but rather because of what the other guy stands for?
If we don't want to vote for a socialist/marxist.....and, then, don't want to vote for someone who isn't as conservative as we would like (McCain)....
what other VIABLE alternative is there? (emphasis on VIABLE)....
McCain has a huge opportunity to "redeem" himself, when it comes time to pick a running mate....hopefully, he'll pick a solid-conservative....at least, that person would have a 'head start' on the next time around....
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 1:15:26 PM
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ljmac
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Why do you conservative Crosswalkers who support McCain think McCain is a conservative?
I do not think that. But he is clearly the most conservative of the two remaining. But he's also the most moderate. That's why he drives conservatives nuts. It's also why he was at one time the darling Republican candidate among the liberal press and why it was widely speculated that he might be a VP candidate for Kerry.
So if you don't think McCain is a conservative, you're going to vote for him not because of what he stands for but rather because of what the other guy stands for?
Nothing unusual about that. If I only voted for the guy who I agreed with all the time, I'd have to write myself on the ballot.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 1:21:41 PM
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RichLP
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Kernsfamily and ljmac:
All I'm saying is that this attitude is akin to voting for somebody because of what they are not as opposed to what they stand for. And it speaks volumes as to what people who support McCain think he stands for - not necessarily you 2 but those who voted him into being the GOP nominee.
If conservatives across the land really wanted a conservative, they might have examined his track record on a few important issues. But it's too late now.
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RE: Say it with me, fellow conservatives... - 6/5/2008 1:34:35 PM
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rlj
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All I'm saying is that this attitude is akin to voting for somebody because of what they are not as opposed to what they stand for. And it speaks volumes as to what people who support McCain think he stands for - not necessarily you 2 but those who voted him into being the GOP nominee.
If conservatives across the land really wanted a conservative, they might have examined his track record on a few important issues. But it's too late now.
Conservatism is dead.
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