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Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/9/2008 2:10:36 AM
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Conquered
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More than 140 years ago C.H. Spurgeon preached a sermon titled "A Blow to Self Righteousness." The following is a continuous quote from that sermon that I've broken into three cases (I added the paragraph breaks and each of the text marking the cases) that I think are the most common examples of self-righteousness in the American Church: quote:
CASE 1:"Well," says one, "this is a sermon well adapted to self-righteous persons, but I am not one." Then what are you, sir? Are you a believer in Christ? "I cannot say I am, sir." Why are you not, then? "Well, I would be, but I am afraid I may not believe in Christ." You are self-righteous, sir. God commands you to believe in Christ, and you say you are not fit. Now what does this mean but that you are wanting to make yourself fit, and this after all is the spirit of self-righteousness; you are so proud that you will not take Christ unless you think you can bring something to him—that is it. CASE 2:"Ah! no," says one poor broken-hearted soul, "I do not think that is fair with me, for I do feel as if I would give anything, if I might hope to be saved; but oh, I am such a wretch! I am such a wretch! I cannot believe." Now, that after all is self-righteousness. Christ bids you trust him. You say, "No, I will not trust thee, Christ, because I am such-an-one and such-an-one." So, then, you are wanting to make yourself somebody, and then Jesus Christ is to do the rest. It is the same spirit of self-righteousness only in another garb. " CASE 3:Ah!" saith one, "but if I did but feel my need enough, as you just now said, sir, then I think I would trust Christ." Self-righteousness again, you want your sense of need to save you. "Oh! but, sir, I cannot believe in Christ as I would." Self-righteousness again. Let me just utter a solemn sentence which you may masticate at your leisure. If you trust to your faith and to your repentance, you will be as much lost as if you trusted to your good works or trusted to your sins. The ground of your salvation is not faith, but Christ; it is not repentance, but Christ. If I trust my trust of Christ, I am lost. My business is to trust Christ; to rest on him; to depend, not on what the Spirit has done in me, but what Christ did for me, when he did hang upon the tree. Now be it known unto you, that when Christ died, he took the sins of all his people upon his head, and there and then they all ceased to be. At the moment when Christ died, the sins of all his redeemed were blotted out. He did then suffer all they ought to have suffered; he paid all their debts; and their sins were actually and positively lifted that day from their shoulders to his shoulders, for "the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all." And now, if you believe in Jesus, there is not a sin remaining upon you, for your sin was laid on Christ; Christ was punished for your sins before they were committed" Thoughts?
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RE: Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/9/2008 2:42:17 AM
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Ezra
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To believe, assume, or presume that salvation is anything other than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself -- His Person and His perfect work of redemption -- is to delude ourselves. "Jesus" means "God is our salvation", "Christ in you, the hope of glory".
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RE: Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/9/2008 9:22:09 AM
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I think are the most common examples of self-righteousness in the American Church I'm not sure about these being the 'most common examples' but self righteousness abounds. There's no doubt about that. I'm with Ezra. He said it well. Christ is ALL. Thank You, Jesus.
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RE: Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/9/2008 10:04:08 AM
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I would say Mr Spurgeon had a firm grasp of what self-righteousness is. To simplify it even further, as I am always want to do, I would define it as any attempt whatsoever to attain through self-effort that which only Christ has and can do for you. And Jesus Christ has done it all for you. The body of Christ [the Church], is rampant with the error of righteousness through self-effort...and it is killing the body.
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RE: Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/9/2008 11:07:26 AM
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To believe, assume, or presume that salvation is anything other than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself -- His Person and His perfect work of redemption -- is to delude ourselves. "Jesus" means "God is our salvation", "Christ in you, the hope of glory". So you agree with Spurgeon when says in the above quote: "If I trust my trust of Christ, I am lost. My business is to trust Christ; to rest on him; to depend, not on what the Spirit has done in me, but what Christ did for me, when he did hang upon the tree. " Yes?
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RE: Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/9/2008 11:45:50 AM
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I'm not sure about these being the 'most common examples' but self righteousness abounds. Well, I did throw that quote out without any explanation of what I meant when I said these three cases describe the American Church well. I admit that there is a difference between Spurgeon's day and today and that difference is that things are much worse today when it comes to self-righteousness Anyway, to connect the dots, or at least show where I'm coming from.... CASE 1:Well, I would be, but I am afraid I may not believe in Christ." The best examples of this can be seen right here on the boards in the "Help, I'm losing my faith" posts. Not that all Christians do not have doubts or doubt from time to time or fear over them - they should fear and it is healthy from them to bring their fears openly here - but when doubt becomes the practice of one's faith it is self-righteous. Even if they've convinced themselves that they are saved on account of special prayer prayed, a rite performed, or a card signed. CASE 2:"Ah! no," says one poor broken-hearted soul, "I do not think that is fair with me, for I do feel as if I would give anything, if I might hope to be saved; but oh, I am such a wretch! I am such a wretch! I cannot believe." How many people in the church do you know who openly lament their "low self-esteeem?" How many in the church today have a faith that is completely crippled by so-called "low self-esteem?" CASE 3:Ah!" saith one, "but if I did but feel my need enough, as you just now said, sir, then I think I would trust Christ." Self-righteousness again, you want your sense of need to save you. "Oh! but, sir, I cannot believe in Christ as I would." Here's the big one. Faith as a feeling. How many churches have sacrificed the Word of Christ on the altar of feeling?
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RE: Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/9/2008 8:54:18 PM
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The body of Christ [the Church], is rampant with the error of righteousness through self-effort...and it is killing the body. amen
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RE: Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/9/2008 9:29:39 PM
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ORIGINAL: Conquered quote:
To believe, assume, or presume that salvation is anything other than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself -- His Person and His perfect work of redemption -- is to delude ourselves. "Jesus" means "God is our salvation", "Christ in you, the hope of glory". So you agree with Spurgeon when says in the above quote: "If I trust my trust of Christ, I am lost. My business is to trust Christ; to rest on him; to depend, not on what the Spirit has done in me, but what Christ did for me, when he did hang upon the tree. " Yes? Absolutely. Our trust must be exclusively on the Son of God and what He accomplished for our redemption on the Cross and by His resurrection. There is absolutely nothing in us to gain or merit eternal life. It is solely and exclusviely on the merits of Christ and His finished work of redemption. It is God's grace and Christ's sacrifice upon which we trust. "But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now JUSTIFIED BY HIS BLOOD, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, WE SHALL BE SAVED BY HIS LIFE. And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement." (Rom. 5:8-11).
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RE: Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/9/2008 10:58:44 PM
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If I trust my trust of Christ, I am lost. My business is to trust Christ; to rest on him; to depend, not on what the Spirit has done in me, but what Christ did for me, when he did hang upon the tree. Now that is truly a Christ-centered proclamation of the gospel! This is what the reformers of the sixteenth century were getting at when they said that the gospel is outside of us. They weren't denying that the gospel changes us. They were emphasizing that our salvation and our assurance of salvation depend on what Christ did for us, not on whether our faith is strong enough, or whether our repentance is genuine enough, or whether we have reallly and truly made Jesus our Lord and Saviour, or anything else that we have contributed.
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RE: Seeker Sensitive Self-Righteousness? - 5/10/2008 12:30:54 AM
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This is what the reformers of the sixteenth century were getting at when they said that the gospel is outside of us. They weren't denying that the gospel changes us. They were emphasizing that our salvation and our assurance of salvation depend on what Christ did for us, not on whether our faith is strong enough, or whether our repentance is genuine enough, or whether we have reallly and truly made Jesus our Lord and Saviour, or anything else that we have contributed. Absolutely and well put. You know that Spurgeon was a big fan of Bunyan, yes?
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