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What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 12:45:54 PM
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JesusIsCool
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Just what the question stated above. Is it ok to bring a knife to church?
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 12:48:38 PM
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Eutychus
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I used to for most of my life. A pocket knife. No particular reason, it was just a useful tool that I always carried with me.
Are you talking about a certain kind of knife: pen, pocket, hunting, scuba, machete?
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 1:06:51 PM
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DaveW
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It depends.
Are you planning on carving your steak at the fellowship diner or stabbing the pastor?
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 1:46:52 PM
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SavedByGraceMD
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Just what the question stated above. Is it ok to bring a knife to church?
I have a small swiss army knife I use at work on my keychain. But that is so I don't lose it or forget it home. In the aftermath, I wind up taking it to church. But I wouldn't carry a rambo knife, or a ka-bar into church. And I don't know how I would feel if a whole bunch of people were doing that.
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 2:24:32 PM
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SavedByGraceMD
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Lots of possible purposes for a knife...
Plastic ones for eating... or cutting play dough! 
Bread knives
Steak knives
Exacto knives for crafting
Carving knives for cutting meat 'n' poultry
Are you asking if we think it's OK to bring a knife to use to hold off an intruder or attacker? To defend those w/out a way to defend themselves?
I think this was the intent of the OP. But it wasn't to clear.
So I will ask...do you?
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 2:41:47 PM
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SavedByGraceMD
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Are you asking if we think it's OK to bring a knife to use to hold off an intruder or attacker? To defend those w/out a way to defend themselves?
I think this was the intent of the OP. But it wasn't too clear.
So I will ask...do you?
Hmm... I'd hope it wasn't needed. But I would feel fine knowing that men in my congregation are equipped and ready to take down intruders, should the occasion arise.
I personally would not carry a weapon. And I'm not sure about other women doing so. Not really my call.
We are a downtown church. And although I don't think the need would arise any time soon, I can imagine that if the last days approach more and more quickly... and violence arises... we're gonna need to be prepared.
Not that I'm wearin' a tinfoil hat right now or anything!
You see...now I can see you sitting there...tin foil hat on head. And I have to laugh...haha.
I agree that it would be ok if a handful or less(depending on size of church) carried a weapon. But they should be trained in how to handle them properly. And we don't need a bunch of cowboys..rootin tootin tobacco spittin cowboys with guns and knives running around our churches. All churches should have security.
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Do not be dismayed for I am your God,
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I will uphold you with my righteous right hand"
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 2:51:46 PM
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SavedByGraceMD
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You see...now I can see you sitting there...tin foil hat on head. And I have to laugh...haha.
I agree that it would be ok if a handful or less(depending on size of church) carried a weapon. But they should be trained in how to handle them properly. And we don't need a bunch of cowboys..rootin tootin tobacco spittin cowboys with guns and knives running around our churches. All churches should have security.
Heehee... yeah, tinfoil painted in pink and red... polka dots. 
We have men who patrol the church hallways and the parking lots on Sundays when the church is open. (We have transients who come in a lot... throughout the week even.)
I don't think most of the church men on patrol are packin' heat or totin' knives, though. And several are likely too old to really physically take down anyone. BUT the Metro police have a precinct next door AND they send a cop on Sundays and Wednesdays. So... maybe we're covered. I dunno. I feel pretty safe there.
This is important. With all the bad reports and shootings around the country, around the world, we do need to feel safe. It is sad that some can't enter a house of worship and not feel safe. I mean we are in the presence of God Himself, yet we still worry that some bad bad man will come in shootin up the place. It is a sad state of affairs we live in. Yet I think I would be be more afraid if half the congregation brought their pistols and hunting knives with them to church.
Praise the Lord all this evil and craziness will be over and done with some day.
< Message edited by SavedByGraceMD -- 9/30/2009 6:07:03 PM >
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 5:44:51 PM
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Peter had a sword in his belt, as Jesus prayed, and even did a bit of ear carving before Jesus told him to quit playing around.
If it wasn't so flashy, I would carry my sword, but am relegated to carrying my hand made Rigid knife, when I leave home. I do not leave home without it, even to Church. (Never know when a Ram might get stuck in the thicket)  I even carry a cigarette lighter in my Bible bag. Nuff-said.
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 6:47:39 PM
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Hmmmm ..... I have a Swiss Army knife that I always carry with me.
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 9/30/2009 8:14:42 PM
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John_O
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Just what the question stated above. Is it ok to bring a knife to church?
Of course it's OK. But you'll always lose if there is a gunfight.
I'm absolutely fine with people bringing whatever weapon they want to church. (Our kids pastor routinely brings a two handed sword)
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 10/1/2009 12:14:59 AM
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I think it's fine. I bring a thumb-opener to church; I never don't have one with me, really.
God bless,
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 10/1/2009 1:22:41 AM
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I think Peter thought it was okay too... until Jesus Christ advised him differently.  I think we need to reevaluate our thinking. Jesus could have made out pretty well if he'd brought a knife or a weapon with Him win those goons were trying to take Him away.
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 10/1/2009 10:06:58 AM
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Depends on how tough the communion bread is...
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 10/1/2009 10:30:23 PM
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It depends.
Are you planning on carving your steak at the fellowship diner or stabbing the pastor?
That made me laugh lol.
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 10/1/2009 10:51:05 PM
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Only if your talking about the Sword of the Spirit!!!
'cause funny, I don't recall that scripture where He says, "Hang on to the knife, Petey, we may need that when things get hairy!"
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I think Peter thought it was okay too... until Jesus Christ advised him differently. I think we need to reevaluate our thinking. Jesus could have made out pretty well if he'd brought a knife or a weapon with Him win those goons were trying to take Him away.
Ah, but Jesus told Peter to bring the sword.
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 10/2/2009 5:29:15 PM
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Dakotasunbeam, Shalom.
Luk 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
In them thar days, a man didn't have to be told that he may need that when things get hairy, ya know pilgrim? They might need the sword, because they didn't have any wagons to circle.
Nuff Joking.
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 10/2/2009 7:37:22 PM
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Depends. Is there some nice room temp Camembert to be cut? Oh, and some rye bread with that nice crispy crust?
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 10/2/2009 9:14:13 PM
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Unless your designation is Church security against some specific threat, or you have a pocket knife key chain, do not ever bring a weapon to church. -Remember Saul?
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RE: What do you think about bringing a knife to church? - 10/4/2009 12:03:19 PM
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DaveW
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Unless your designation is Church security against some specific threat, or you have a pocket knife key chain, do not ever bring a weapon to church. -Remember Saul? A few years back some crazy guy decided to open fire on a sister congregation of ours in the Dallas area. When he started firing several congregants ran out to stop him. I don't think they were all "security" people. They held him at gunpoint until the authorities arrived.
I don't see a problem with it.
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