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RE: Mental Health Debate - One Stop Thread - 10/17/2009 12:39:49 PM
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heremainsfaithful
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Mental illness IS physiological because it involves a part of the body -- the brain. Just because you can't see a limp or a blood sugar reading does not mean the disease does not exist. To say mental illness is a spiritual problem is just as narrow as saying diabetes is a spiritual problem. We can't see the pancreas or sugar in the blood either. 20 some years ago, my husband (who has type 1 diabetes) was told by a pastor that his diabetes was really a demon and that if he were truly spiritual his blood sugar would become controlled. Does anybody here REALLY think that is valid? Heavens, I hope not So why do we look at someone who has a physiological condition that happens to be located in the brain and tell them that if they were saved or read Gal. 5:22, 23they wouldn't be sick? Why do we tell someone who is completely enveloped in an unexplainable (unless you look at their PET scan) depression and tell them they are just sad and to pray and suck it up? How dare a pastor tell a sick person not to take medicine for it? How dare an insurance company make an unfounded an unbiblical judgement not to allow an entire segment of the population not to get treatment?
When I take medication, I am stable both physically and mentally. I can be a mother, a wife, a church member. When I was not receiving treatment, undiagnosedfor all those years, my husband suffered, my children suffered....I poured through God's Word, I prayed, I cried, and nothing would stop it. Iwas the one who refused to accept that it might be some "mental illness that a truly spiritual peron could pray trough." I was the one who refused to even think about "mind-altering drugs." After I nearly destroyed my family and myself, I finally caved, so to speak. The first time my husband was able to ask me a question about a bill and not be torn into by a mad woman, he sat on the couch and wept with relief.
Don't tell me mental illness doesn't exist. And don't tell me it doesn't need treatment. Not unless you have an armload of in-context passages and full verses to back it up.
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RE: Mental Health Debate - One Stop Thread - 10/23/2009 12:39:21 PM
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m1thrand1r
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As I've read through this thread I see the same basic lines being drawn between positions that I've read again and again. The major problem that I have with most of what is said by those who are opposed to modern psychological techniques and therapy is that they tend to speak from a position of ignorance about what psychology really is.
As someone who has heard nouthetic positions defended all his life, I decided to do my own research "from the horses mouth." After listening to two entire semesters worth of college level classes (an intro to Psych class from MIT and a Pastoral Counseling class from Reformed Theological Seminary) I sat down and wrote a compare and contrast which I've posted over here.
It's easy enough to throw out words like "biblical" since we all want to follow the Scriptures. However, we must use extreme caution to read the Text as it was written for the purpose it was written. Treating the story of Saul's "evil spirit from the Lord" as a case study in mental health is like declaring that Poe's The Raven is a treatise on ornithology. It just doesn't quite work.
I'm glad that people are out there having this discussion and I look forward to seeing a lot more of it going forward.
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RE: Mental Health Debate - One Stop Thread - 11/8/2009 9:29:52 AM
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stellaluna
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I found this interesting story on ssri.
http://ssristories.com/
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Adverse reactions are most likely to occur when starting or discontinuing the drug, increasing or lowering the dose or when switching from one SSRI to another. Adverse reactions are often diagnosed as bipolar disorder when the symptoms may be entirely iatrogenic (treatment induced).
Same as medication for most health conditions.
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RE: Mental Health Debate - One Stop Thread - 11/11/2009 5:40:34 PM
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Anon101
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ORIGINAL: stellaluna
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ORIGINAL: 1redfern
I found this interesting story on ssri.
http://ssristories.com/
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Adverse reactions are most likely to occur when starting or discontinuing the drug, increasing or lowering the dose or when switching from one SSRI to another. Adverse reactions are often diagnosed as bipolar disorder when the symptoms may be entirely iatrogenic (treatment induced).
Same as medication for most health conditions.
I agree. My husband was recently diagnosed as bipolar. They put him on bipolar meds and he got worse. He stopped taking the meds and he says his doctor is going to put him on an antidepressant. Right now though, since he went cold-turkey (he chose to do this) and hasn't gotten a script for the new medication he is like a time bomb waiting to off. Very tense.
I know any medication that changes the chemicals in your brain and their major functions i.e.: Dopamine; Serotonin; Norepinephrine; Acetylcholine; and GABA are addictive and very sensitive to ANY changes.
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Mental Health Debate - One Stop Thread - 11/12/2009 1:08:42 PM
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PinkCarnations
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JOHNS HOPKINS ARTICLE
Xanax (alprazolam), Klonopin (clonazepam), and Valium (diazepam)—are effective for alleviating anxiety, but they are also powerful drugs with serious side effects. Among the most dangerous is the development of both physical and psychological dependency. In fact, more than one third of people taking benzodiazepines for anxiety for more than one month become dependent on them.
Because of this high risk, the prescribing physician should monitor patients closely, and patients considering these antianxiety drugs should understand both the possible side effects and the precautions to take to avoid developing dependence.
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