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RE: Bible Codes - 11/5/2006 7:52:56 PM
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behold
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Greetings,
You also find this to be interesting...click here
Not that I endorse the idea that numbers have mystical meaning, but here's an interesting coincidense that is not on that web site:
Hexadecimal 777 = Decimal 1,911
Use your computer's calculator to confirm.
FYI, when you look here again [ http://www.upload-images.net/imagen/1a76192a2e.jpg ]
you'll see that I missed a third 'ONE'. Starting from the 'O' of 'Accord', then the first 'N' of 'Nine', and the 'E' of 'Pile'.
This simple 11x11 matrix, at an ELS of 777, has in words, 1911.
Again, it's not that seven hundred seventy seven has a special meaning, but the "coincidenses" of the findings in this matrix does indeed display superior DESIGN, and not just that, but also absolute and unequivical power to manipulate the hands of men, to bring forth a message, even from one translation to another; the KJV being the most prominent of all bible versions.
Lastly, I found yet another 'curious anomaly'. Look for 'NOAH', then, using the same 'N' of 'NOAH', read diagonally upward, and you'll find, 'NFUSSGHW' = Naval Fleet, USS GHW Bush, christened on October 7th. Oh, and this matrix has 5 G's in it, but it turns out that the 'G' of UUSGHW has a 'G' in common with 'GORGE', odds of that, 2 in 5. And the 'HW' end on the same row that 'BUSH' is found, odds of that, 1 in 11. Odds of both occuring, 2 in 55, or, 1 in 27.5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_George_H._W._Bush_%28CVN-77%29
Ok, somebody tell me the chances of finding the name of the boat which is named after the father of the matrix subject. A boat which is ALSO named "CVN-77", and finding it in the matrix where the 'N' is also where 'NOAH' starts. Noah built a boat, his father Lamech lived till 777 years. Bush is found in a bible matrix with a 777 base reference, and in the same matrix is found the name of the boat named after his father, which also goes by another name having '77'.
Uhh, what are the odds, anybody?
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RE: Bible Codes - 11/9/2006 2:08:52 AM
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ok. . .this is something that i do not understand, if there are such a thing as bible codes. . . .given the number of different versions. . the only way to have some standing with these codes, is to use the original manuscripts, i.e in the greek and/or hebrew languages
Is this what is being done?
How does it work?
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RE: Bible Codes - 11/9/2006 11:23:23 AM
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ok. . .this is something that i do not understand, if there are such a thing as bible codes. . . .given the number of different versions. . the only way to have some standing with these codes, is to use the original manuscripts, i.e in the greek and/or hebrew languages
Is this what is being done?
How does it work?
From my perspective, the question isn't whether or not "Bible Codes" exist; rather, it is, if an apparent message is found "beneath" the surface of another, what are the chances that it is intentional; what are the chances that it is random coincidense. From that perspective, not only is language and version irrelevant, but even the book. Let me explain:
Let's examine a scenario; for this scenario, ASSUME as fact that God intentionally hid a few messages in the bible to be revealed at a time when the necessary tools would exist to uncover such messages. Then, assume that the scientific world took an interest to this supposed phenomena, and began trying to find "messages" not only in the bible, but in other books as well. FINALLY, assume that the final conclusion shows that no book written PRIOR to 2001, other than the bible, contains "messages" about 9/11, but, that several books written AFTER 2001 did indeed contain "messages" about 9/11. WHAT MIGHT SUCH A SCENARIO PROVE ??? Well, in such a case, it would show that the enemy, in an effort to discredit the possibility of God hiding "messages" in the bible, placed a few "messages" himself in the later books, and then likely directed the findings, thus causing the scientific world to say, "you see, nothing special about hidden messages in the bible, we found them in these books too"
My point is, original text or not, Hebrew, Spanish, English, or any other language, any version, all of these are technically irrelevant. Only the math is relevant. If a seemingly designed pattern of letters defies the odds of them being their by chance, then SOMEONE placed them there.
More specifically, the matrices that I have been finding could hardly appear by chance, the odds are astronomically against that. So, they are their by intent, who authored them, may very well be a matter of belief.
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RE: Bible Codes - 12/30/2006 11:51:54 PM
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FYI: There's MORE even within that very same 11x11 matrix which leads me to believe that this is NOT only regarding September 11, 2001, but is also about a future catastrophic event that directly involves Bush. The phrase directly beneath the matrix reveals his fate. The event may be VERY, VERY, near !!!
Well, it's about 15 minutes till New Year's Eve where I am. I bring this up only because I believed the bible code which I had found and posted on here is a warning about something happenning on New Year's Eve; more specifically, something happening to the President on the 10th of the Hebrew month Tevet. So now I sit and wait. If indeed something does happen, then it wasn't just a lucky guess on my part. Of course, if nothing happens, then it proves there was never a code, nor any revelation of expected event; oh well.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/2/2007 2:53:25 AM
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Why would anyone think God would hide secret codes in the Bible? God's word is in plain text for anyone to read, there are no secrets, Gd gave His written word for all man, not just some after the invention of computers.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/2/2007 10:37:17 AM
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FYI: There's MORE even within that very same 11x11 matrix which leads me to believe that this is NOT only regarding September 11, 2001, but is also about a future catastrophic event that directly involves Bush. The phrase directly beneath the matrix reveals his fate. The event may be VERY, VERY, near !!!
Well, it's about 15 minutes till New Year's Eve where I am. I bring this up only because I believed the bible code which I had found and posted on here is a warning about something happenning on New Year's Eve; more specifically, something happening to the President on the 10th of the Hebrew month Tevet. So now I sit and wait. If indeed something does happen, then it wasn't just a lucky guess on my part. Of course, if nothing happens, then it proves there was never a code, nor any revelation of expected event; oh well.
Behold,
I guess I don't have a dog in the bible code fight, but I believe your premise is that the odds of these 'codes' showing up randomly are astronomical and therefore must be information placed there by God. Since you found a code on 'something happening to the Prez' on NYE, and nothing did, what's your conclusion. I imagine the probability of this code was pretty high, no? What's that tell you? I'm curious what the code you were referring to was.
Thanks,
Joe
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/2/2007 6:55:56 PM
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FYI: There's MORE even within that very same 11x11 matrix which leads me to believe that this is NOT only regarding September 11, 2001, but is also about a future catastrophic event that directly involves Bush. The phrase directly beneath the matrix reveals his fate. The event may be VERY, VERY, near !!!
Well, it's about 15 minutes till New Year's Eve where I am. I bring this up only because I believed the bible code which I had found and posted on here is a warning about something happenning on New Year's Eve; more specifically, something happening to the President on the 10th of the Hebrew month Tevet. So now I sit and wait. If indeed something does happen, then it wasn't just a lucky guess on my part. Of course, if nothing happens, then it proves there was never a code, nor any revelation of expected event; oh well.
Behold,
I guess I don't have a dog in the bible code fight, but I believe your premise is that the odds of these 'codes' showing up randomly are astronomical and therefore must be information placed there by God. Since you found a code on 'something happening to the Prez' on NYE, and nothing did, what's your conclusion. I imagine the probability of this code was pretty high, no? What's that tell you? I'm curious what the code you were referring to was.
Thanks,
Joe
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/3/2007 11:47:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: behold
FYI: There's MORE even within that very same 11x11 matrix which leads me to believe that this is NOT only regarding September 11, 2001, but is also about a future catastrophic event that directly involves Bush. The phrase directly beneath the matrix reveals his fate. The event may be VERY, VERY, near !!!
Well, it's about 15 minutes till New Year's Eve where I am. I bring this up only because I believed the bible code which I had found and posted on here is a warning about something happenning on New Year's Eve; more specifically, something happening to the President on the 10th of the Hebrew month Tevet. So now I sit and wait. If indeed something does happen, then it wasn't just a lucky guess on my part. Of course, if nothing happens, then it proves there was never a code, nor any revelation of expected event; oh well.
Behold,
I guess I don't have a dog in the bible code fight, but I believe your premise is that the odds of these 'codes' showing up randomly are astronomical and therefore must be information placed there by God. Since you found a code on 'something happening to the Prez' on NYE, and nothing did, what's your conclusion. I imagine the probability of this code was pretty high, no? What's that tell you? I'm curious what the code you were referring to was.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe, it tells me that the human mind is capable of anything (which is in itself a proof that we are very different creatures from animals).
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/3/2007 11:48:09 AM
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ORIGINAL: behold
FYI: There's MORE even within that very same 11x11 matrix which leads me to believe that this is NOT only regarding September 11, 2001, but is also about a future catastrophic event that directly involves Bush. The phrase directly beneath the matrix reveals his fate. The event may be VERY, VERY, near !!!
Well, it's about 15 minutes till New Year's Eve where I am. I bring this up only because I believed the bible code which I had found and posted on here is a warning about something happenning on New Year's Eve; more specifically, something happening to the President on the 10th of the Hebrew month Tevet. So now I sit and wait. If indeed something does happen, then it wasn't just a lucky guess on my part. Of course, if nothing happens, then it proves there was never a code, nor any revelation of expected event; oh well.
Behold,
I guess I don't have a dog in the bible code fight, but I believe your premise is that the odds of these 'codes' showing up randomly are astronomical and therefore must be information placed there by God. Since you found a code on 'something happening to the Prez' on NYE, and nothing did, what's your conclusion. I imagine the probability of this code was pretty high, no? What's that tell you? I'm curious what the code you were referring to was.
Thanks,
Joe
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/3/2007 2:58:06 PM
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On the fringe of heresy....
I could do the same thing with Harry Potter books...
Have you done a full study on Bible Codes?
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/3/2007 3:58:59 PM
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Behold,
I guess I don't have a dog in the bible code fight, but I believe your premise is that the odds of these 'codes' showing up randomly are astronomical and therefore must be information placed there by God. Since you found a code on 'something happening to the Prez' on NYE, and nothing did, what's your conclusion. I imagine the probability of this code was pretty high, no? What's that tell you? I'm curious what the code you were referring to was.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe (and anyone truly interested in helping me)
I find myself in a really odd place. First, I'll say, YES, to each and all that love pointing the figure and asking, "do you feel stupid now". I sure as hell do. Guess what, it's not my first time either; I've tried my hand at making predictions 2 other times, and was wrong the other times as well. Worse, when I believe something, I REALLY believe it. I make a big to-do about it, and then have to walk around the house with my tail between my legs. The end result is that for a time, I even get upset at God, as if HE let me SEE something, and then betrayed me when nothing happens. I realize that is NOT the case of course. But now, here's where I need help, PLEASE, all of you with the lovely fingers that love pointing them, try for a moment to understand that this is a CRY FOR HELP, so put the finger down, thank you very much!
Ok, getting on with it ...
Joe, specifically regarding your quote, about the odds of finding what may SEEM to be a code, note that I said I believed I found elements WITHIN the code which led me to believe something would occur. Removing THOSE elements which turned out to be wrong, still leaves me dizzy. Consider, this is my question NOW !!!!
Is it totally accidental that in the ONE AND ONLY place in the OT where the subphrase "GORGE" is found, also happens to be where "Head Of State" and "Bush" are found, together with "Nine One One", "Fire", "Terror", and "USSGHW" ? Note, "USSGHW" is the name of the Nimitz-Class USNF Aircraft Carrier named after Bush Senior; it is also named the CVS-77. Also note that this entire matrix is found by arranging the letters of Ezekiel into columns of 777 letters. Finally note that of the hundreds of four-letter names in the bible, only 3 show up in this matrix, and one of those three happens to be NOAH. Noah built a large boat, his daddy Lamech died at age 777. President Bush's name is found in a biblical matrix at an ELS of 777, Bush's daddy has a boat named after him (aka CVS-77) and the name of that boat is found in the matrix right along the name and title of the president.
No matter how stupid I may feel, there's no way in all hell I feel comfortable saying that this is just an accidental combining of letters. Furthermore, if I had the money, I'd actually have a contest offering millions to anyone that can find a similar "accident" in any other book in the world.
Oh, and by the way, I am not so dimwitted that I do not know how to spell the President's first name. However, the verb Gorge is very fitting of the nature of the man, kinda like the way Abbaddon is fitting of the nature of Appolyon, and Israel is fitting of the nature of Jacob, and Peter fitting of the nature of Simon.
Somewhere in these posts I copied the matrix, please look for it and take another look. I just can't see how someone could look at it and say the combination of letters simply fell into place by mere accident. It just seems intentional. As for getting a prediction wrong, so what, televangelists and thousands of pastors do the same every day of the week. The fact that I repeated their mistake does not take away from what seems to be a code. It only means that I read too much into, and tried hard to see what was never there. That's my problem.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/3/2007 4:16:04 PM
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Why would anyone think God would hide secret codes in the Bible? God's word is in plain text for anyone to read, there are no secrets, Gd gave His written word for all man, not just some after the invention of computers.
The bible is an enigma, full of secrets. Certain words are EXPLICITELY said to be sealed. They ARE NOT to be understood, they are to BE KEPT SECRET. You aren't really looking for a prostitute to sit on a 7 headed beast, are you?
Tell me, anyone, what is the difference between hiding something in plain sight, and hiding it in a place not so plainly seen. If something is going to be hidden, well, it's going to be hidden, plain site or not. Definition doesn't change, hidden, still means hidden.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/3/2007 8:56:16 PM
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Hey All & Happy New Year 07
Doubt is a spanner that is thrown into the works and beliefs that we have from time to time and it can make us lose sight of what we are given to look into. I have no doubt Behold that what you have written about these things is not true, and as i mentioned before sometimes what we expect is not what we get, yet that doesn't mean that what we see is not true. We just need to see it from one of the many angles that it presents itself as.
The gospel is given to us in four views of the life of Jesus, the four living creatures of revelation, the seven spirits and the witness & prophecy of the old and new testament. All these things give not just one account of an event but a spectrum of points like when light is broken into the rainbow of colours. All come from the same light,, what you saw in your bible codes is just one colour that you saw, what the world saw was just another and its when all the colours are placed together again that the true light is seen.
Both of your predictions from what i can see have been somewhat correct and you should have no doubt of what you saw is infact correct and part of the true light which is a gift of Gods Grace to you.
You spoke of an event in 2005 that did happen and again in 2006 you have done the same, have no doubt, Believe!! and you can move mountains my friend.
Lets take a look at what you have said and what took place.
The words that you have found within the codes are of interest and are not random as i have the proof that they are infact true through what i have found and therefore neither logically can be untrue. If two things from two different angles point to the same thing and then are sealed with the scriptures and Grace of God then i see no problem,, or Doubt.
Within the last week we have seen all the things you have mentioned in your codes resurface again as they did in 2004 which i have spoken about in my posts of past.
Sadam was hung
President Ford died.
These two things alone point to your codes and what you spoke of in early November 06,,
It was Saddam that was blamed and linked to 9/11 via the image of BLadn preaching from the TV set & Internet a message of a holy collision of faiths & religions. Through deception, lies & a clever usage of words and fear, three nations went to war in Iraq. The war was over in a couple of months yet three years on we are still there and many are dieing with the numbers increasing each day on all sides.
Yet on Saturday gone, Saddam was Hung and your link to 9/11 was placed and brought forward to take place within the code & timeframe you did mention.
The link to Vav, head of state and death of the president also took place, just in a different light you where expecting yet what you did say still rings true as i will explain later.
The President did die, just not the one you expected and this also took place within this last week. Vav was present and for the second time he placed his hands on the coffin of a President under the rotunda and the vision of Washington. For the second time within his reign he has been there as two have fallen and now only four remain including himself.
So i have no doubt that what you have said is true, regarding your codes and to show you are seeing what you are supposed to be my friend heres your [proof].
Sadam was caught on Dec 13th 2003 depending on your time zone and the date time calculation between that day and the death of President Ford is 1111 days.
Saddam's government collapsed as a result of the 2003 invasion of Iraq led by the United States, and he was captured by American forces on December 13, 2003. On November 5, 2006, he was convicted of crimes against humanity by the Iraq Special Tribunal and was sentenced to death by hanging. On December 26, 2006, Saddam's appeal was rejected and the death sentence upheld. He was hanged in front of lawyers, officials, and a doctor at approximately 06:06 AM Baghdad time (03:06 UTC) on December 30, 2006, according to Iraqi television.
Wikipedia.
speak soon,
till then Cheerio,,
yours In Christ.
God Bless
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/3/2007 9:17:59 PM
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Hey All & Happy New Year 07
Doubt is a spanner that is thrown into the works and beliefs that we have from time to time and it can make us lose sight of what we are given to look into. I have no doubt Behold that what you have written about these things is not true, and as i mentioned before sometimes what we expect is not what we get, yet that doesn't mean that what we see is not true. We just need to see it from one of the many angles that it presents itself as.
The gospel is given to us in four views of the life of Jesus, the four living creatures of revelation, the seven spirits and the witness & prophecy of the old and new testament. All these things give not just one account of an event but a spectrum of points like when light is broken into the rainbow of colours. All come from the same light,, what you saw in your bible codes is just one colour that you saw, what the world saw was just another and its when all the colours are placed together again that the true light is seen.
Both of your predictions from what i can see have been somewhat correct and you should have no doubt of what you saw is infact correct and part of the true light which is a gift of Gods Grace to you.
You spoke of an event in 2005 that did happen and again in 2006 you have done the same, have no doubt, Believe!! and you can move mountains my friend.
Lets take a look at what you have said and what took place.
The words that you have found within the codes are of interest and are not random as i have the proof that they are infact true through what i have found and therefore neither logically can be untrue. If two things from two different angles point to the same thing and then are sealed with the scriptures and Grace of God then i see no problem,, or Doubt.
Within the last week we have seen all the things you have mentioned in your codes resurface again as they did in 2004 which i have spoken about in my posts of past.
Sadam was hung
President Ford died.
These two things alone point to your codes and what you spoke of in early November 06,,
It was Saddam that was blamed and linked to 9/11 via the image of BLadn preaching from the TV set & Internet a message of a holy collision of faiths & religions. Through deception, lies & a clever usage of words and fear, three nations went to war in Iraq. The war was over in a couple of months yet three years on we are still there and many are dieing with the numbers increasing each day on all sides.
Yet on Saturday gone, Saddam was Hung and your link to 9/11 was placed and brought forward to take place within the code & timeframe you did mention.
The link to Vav, head of state and death of the president also took place, just in a different light you where expecting yet what you did say still rings true as i will explain later.
The President did die, just not the one you expected and this also took place within this last week. Vav was present and for the second time he placed his hands on the coffin of a President under the rotunda and the vision of Washington. For the second time within his reign he has been there as two have fallen and now only four remain including himself.
So i have no doubt that what you have said is true, regarding your codes and to show you are seeing what you are supposed to be my friend heres your [proof].
Sadam was caught on Dec 13th 2003 depending on your time zone and the date time calculation between that day and the death of President Ford is 1111 days.
Saddam's government collapsed as a result of the 2003 invasion of Iraq led by the United States, and he was captured by American forces on December 13, 2003. On November 5, 2006, he was convicted of crimes against humanity by the Iraq Special Tribunal and was sentenced to death by hanging. On December 26, 2006, Saddam's appeal was rejected and the death sentence upheld. He was hanged in front of lawyers, officials, and a doctor at approximately 06:06 AM Baghdad time (03:06 UTC) on December 30, 2006, according to Iraqi television.
Wikipedia.
speak soon,
till then Cheerio,,
yours In Christ.
God Bless
Greetings,
HAPPY NEW YEAR!>>>>
Its starting to to get good...the time is close at hand!
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Sadam was caught on Dec 13th 2003 depending on your time zone and the date time calculation between that day and the death of President Ford is 1111 days.
Behold, He is coming with clouds, and "every eye" will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/5/2007 8:14:18 AM
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Hey All & Hi Behold,,
Its interesting that you bring up Lamech in your post and the reference to the 777 days that he lived. Also the reference to Noah & the ship and the Ark. As it was in the days of Noah,
Take a look at Lamech in Genesis.
Genesis 4
17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
18And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.
19And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
23And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
24If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
Now take a look at the Lamech in the next chapter of Genesis and see the difference and what i believe is a different Lamech. One from Adam the other from Cain.
Genesis 5
27And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
28And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.
30And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
31And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
In the line of Adam to Noah
Adam - 930 yrs old
Seth- 912
Enos- 905
Cainan- 910
Mahalaleel- 895
Jared- 962
* At 162 yrs old he became father of Enoch
* According to Enoch Bk 1 The watchers came to earth during the time of Jared.
Enoch- 365
Methuselah- 969
Lamech- 777
Noah \__;__/
speak soon,
till then Cheerio,,
yours In Christ.
God Bless
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/5/2007 10:58:42 AM
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Sadam was caught on Dec 13th 2003 depending on your time zone and the date time calculation between that day and the death of President Ford is 1111 days.
And what does one have to do with the other. The coincidence that these two events are 1111 days apart is of no significance.
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/5/2007 12:07:50 PM
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joefen
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ORIGINAL: behold
Joe (and anyone truly interested in helping me)
I find myself in a really odd place. First, I'll say, YES, to each and all that love pointing the figure and asking, "do you feel stupid now". I sure as hell do. Guess what, it's not my first time either; I've tried my hand at making predictions 2 other times, and was wrong the other times as well. Worse, when I believe something, I REALLY believe it. I make a big to-do about it, and then have to walk around the house with my tail between my legs. The end result is that for a time, I even get upset at God, as if HE let me SEE something, and then betrayed me when nothing happens. I realize that is NOT the case of course. But now, here's where I need help, PLEASE, all of you with the lovely fingers that love pointing them, try for a moment to understand that this is a CRY FOR HELP, so put the finger down, thank you very much!
Hi behold,
Sorry it seemed like I was slamming you. Not my intent at all. No accusation at all from my finger. I commend you/anyone for thinking outside of the box and using the brain God gave you. There is waaaaay too much parroting and blind acceptance of things we were all taught without really searching the Scriptures to see if it is true. There's plenty of wacky eschatology out there and most of it can't be right, by definition. And everybody thinks their's is right. Too bad most have been taught that it is a horrible sin and sign of weak faith to question anything. so people wind up swallowing legit questions they have rather than asking and getting them explained to clear up the confusion.
I realize you are not 'selling' Bible codes, you just came across something that seemed impossible to be random. I agree. My last question was about the thing you found on the NYE prediction and what it's probability of being random was. I thought it would be instructive to know the odds and relevance of things that did not pan out as well.
Keep digging and keep thinking and let us know what you find. And I'll never give you the finger again. 
Peace to you,
Joe
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/5/2007 2:10:22 PM
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behold
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ORIGINAL: joefen
Hi behold,
Sorry it seemed like I was slamming you. Not my intent at all. No accusation at all from my finger. I commend you/anyone for thinking outside of the box and using the brain God gave you. There is waaaaay too much parroting and blind acceptance of things we were all taught without really searching the Scriptures to see if it is true. There's plenty of wacky eschatology out there and most of it can't be right, by definition. And everybody thinks their's is right. Too bad most have been taught that it is a horrible sin and sign of weak faith to question anything. so people wind up swallowing legit questions they have rather than asking and getting them explained to clear up the confusion.
I realize you are not 'selling' Bible codes, you just came across something that seemed impossible to be random. I agree. My last question was about the thing you found on the NYE prediction and what it's probability of being random was. I thought it would be instructive to know the odds and relevance of things that did not pan out as well.
Keep digging and keep thinking and let us know what you find. And I'll never give you the finger again.
Peace to you,
Joe
Thanks for your words Joe ! I'd also like to thank IC and LG for what I take as moral support. But now, with this explanation, I am sure I'll lose whatever friends I may have made here, but, here goes.
Joe, I was not originally looking for anything having to do with GWB. I was instead, looking for something having to do with Ten Tevet. Only AFTER finding what seemed like a cluster of "coded" words confirming my original hypothesis, did I stumble upon something BIGGER than "Ten Tevet". Here's how I got there:
My original hypothesis goes like this:
John, as well as the OT prophets, call the Creator, "GOD ALMIGHTY" (or sometimes, "Almighty God"). Neither John, nor the OT prophets EVER call the Creator, "the great god". In fact, the only other time the phrase "the great god" is used to refer to the Creator is when the written language is switched from Hebrew to Aramaic. This made me suspicious, and I began to look at how all of these words are written in the original Greek. "God Almighty" is ALWAYS written "the God the Almighty", even when the translators wrote "Almighty God". However, "the great god", used only one time, is written "the great the god". I began to wonder if both phrases really had in mind the same person. It turns out "Allah" means "the god". It then dawned on me:
The "God the Almighty", is quite likely NOT the same as,
The "Great the god" = The "Great Allah".
Now Rev 19:17 says the fowls are called and told to gather themselves unto the supper of the great "the god". I use to think this was just another reference to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb, however, the Messiah NEVER talked about the bride and Groom coming together for a bloody supper consisting of the flesh of humans, so it doesn't fit. This supper of the great "the god" is not the same as the Wedding Supper of the Lamb. So, I began to look up Muslim feasts, and learned of Eid Uladha (the feast of sacrifice), which falls on the tenth day of the tenth month, which this year fell on New Year's Eve. Furthermore, the same verse says 'I saw One Messenger standing in the sun". Though most translations say, "I saw an angel ...", the greek here once again is very different from EVERY other occurence of "an angel". In EVERY other case where the translators write "an angel", the indefinite article "an" is implied, and not actually found in the greek. But in this one verse, and only in this one verse, do we see the greek word for "one" placed in front of the word "angel". So in fact, though the translators wrote "an angel", John actually wrote "One Angel". Now the word Angel is the same as Messenger. Two things clicked in my mind. 1) On November 8th, Mercury (the Messenger god in the Roman pantheon) transitted the sun. 2) NASA has recently sent a probe to Mercury, and that probe is name "Messenger". So, taking one or the other or both, we have a chronology of events being forecasted, which goes like this: the False Prophet and the Beast will be Taken during, or shortly after, that muslim "feast of sacrifice" which follows a Mercury transit of the sun.
Ok, now that I am thoroughly sure I've removed the possibility of any future agreements with one and all, let me say, Joe, that the SPECIFIC term WITHIN the GWB code which led me to believe something would occur on New Year's Eve is itself statistically weak. That said, it is only a 5 letter term, "NYEVE", and only proves that, since nothing occured, it was truly NOT a valid term. Or said another way, it is MUCH MORE likely that "NYEVE" found in this 11x11 cluster is accidental only. It remains NOT SO LIKELY, that "Head Of State Gorge W Bush", "Nine One One, Fire, Terror", and "USSGHW" found in this 11x11 cluster are not accidental.
Now, regardless of how I got here, my question for all remains the same: Would these phrases/terms within a box 11 columns wide by 11 rows long happen by accident? Or does the apparent pattern reveal a deliberate act of God? Am I looking randomly at the clouds above and spotting an elephant, or am I instead looking at deliberate sky writing by a man in an airplane? What do you see, an elephant, or sky writing? Have any of you seen the 2001 film, "A Beautiful Mind"? Am I suffering with a similar delusional mind like John Nash? Am I seeing things that ARE NOT THERE? Help !!!!!
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RE: Bible Codes - 1/5/2007 3:41:50 PM
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cow451
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ORIGINAL: behold
Now, regardless of how I got here, my question for all remains the same: Would these phrases/terms within a box 11 columns wide by 11 rows long happen by accident? Or does the apparent pattern reveal a deliberate act of God? Am I looking randomly at the clouds above and spotting an elephant, or am I instead looking at deliberate sky writing by a man in an airplane? What do you see, an elephant, or sky writing? Have any of you seen the 2001 film, "A Beautiful Mind"? Am I suffering with a similar delusional mind like John Nash? Am I seeing things that ARE NOT THERE? Help !!!!!
I vote for the elephant in the clouds. 
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