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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/15/2008 8:58:35 PM
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heavenwardalways
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when you see a psychic show signs to an unbeliever,
"false prophet show signs to BEAST"
we are entitled to our own views, I do not believe one man will brainwash people, and I will not apologize for that view, I know I get dreams from God and I posted this on another forum yesterday and NOW IT IS CLOSED, no more forum, because the theologists KNEW
No one is asking you to apologize. In other threads you feel the need to defend your view against nothing. Anyways...I thought I got dreams from the Lord and they have been decieving. They were from Satan. I hope you are praying and seeking prayer for your dreams, putting them against the bible, and not taking them at face value. That is deception to yourself. Just as God can dwell in a person, so can Satan. God can use one person to help the world, Satan, who loves to imitate Jesus, can dwell in a person to decieve and hurt the world. Satan can decieve the world, he already has brainwashed all who do not believe in God. That's biblical sweety. To say otherwise is to deny the fact Satan is alive and working in the world. I don't think you are a prophet. You say things against the bible. I've read your other thread. They fail when put against the bible. You seem to talk in bits and pieces. Prophets will always have detail. Without it, there is no prophecy.
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/15/2008 9:42:33 PM
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Dear prophetlady! Please notice the Testimony of Jesus concerning those who perform miracles and signs: For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.
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14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
this is what i meant Wes by the miracles that a false prophet can perform, you know Psychics with their familiar spirits etc...
astrologers do it too, that I have witnessed too, I had one astrologer tell me she was seeing MIRACLES all around her, yet she was promoting, gambling, cheating, lying and the likes in her horoscopes, go figure eh? I preach to the people lost in witchcraft, I had my divination demon cast out two years ago and was saved Wes, then the truth came to me about certain issues..
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/16/2008 8:27:57 AM
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angels in the dreams dear, that is how I know, but I do not want to go in great detail because we are not supposed to on this website..I know the difference.
I am not talking about the multitudes of false prophets and false christs prophetica I am talking about how you feel ONE MAN, ONE PERSON, is going to be believed, but the SON OF GOD< was not, you are giving Satan more credit then Christ with such views.
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/16/2008 12:30:03 PM
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Greetings prophetlady! One could notice the Testimony of Paul concerning Jesus: was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.
We know that Jesus is the Son of God. No one seeks to give satan any credit; it is only that the saints could prepare for the last trial ahead, even as they endure through the trials and wiles of the devil during these present times.
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angels in the dreams dear, that is how I know, but I do not want to go in great detail because we are not supposed to on this website..I know the difference.
I am not talking about the multitudes of false prophets and false christs prophetica I am talking about how you feel ONE MAN, ONE PERSON, is going to be believed, but the SON OF GOD< was not, you are giving Satan more credit then Christ with such views.
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/16/2008 4:25:09 PM
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angels in the dreams dear, that is how I know, but I do not want to go in great detail because we are not supposed to on this website..I know the difference.
I am not talking about the multitudes of false prophets and false christs prophetica I am talking about how you feel ONE MAN, ONE PERSON, is going to be believed, but the SON OF GOD< was not, you are giving Satan more credit then Christ with such views.
I know you adressed Prophetica but just humor me for a sec.. 
Just a thought: Jesus came and announced himself to the world. No one believed him because he spoke out against what people were doing and their sin. That ONE MAN, who will be Satan's puppet, so to speak, will speak blaspemies and get rid of the idea of sin. He will tell everyone what they want to hear. Telling them "whatever feels good and right to you, do it".Now for someone who doesn't have Christ, well yes they will follow him. Already that is the mentality of this world we live in. And not EVERYONE will believe him, for as the saints, we will NOT believe him for we know TRUTH and then there are those that just wont because they might think he is a lunitic. Now these are my understandings and I know you have different understandings and I respect that. 
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/16/2008 9:36:09 PM
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Prophetica you know what i am talking about the city he went to, showed miracles, no one believed him, he left....
I am talking about when he was ALIVE IN THE FLESH WITH HIS DISCIPLES, but you are saying SATAN will be in a mans body and the whole world is going to believe him?
satan=adversary=demons
falseprophet=all false prophets
the beast=the rest
I know when you look at it it looks like three people going to hell, do you think only three people are going to hell?
we all know john saw symbols, he saw THREE, but it meant MANY
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/16/2008 9:43:28 PM
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In my understanding:
satan= ancient serpent or fallen angel of God that wanted to be God
false prophet = the final embodiment of false prophethood known as the beast from the earth or the antichrist
the beast from the sea= spiritual powers that fell with lucifer in the rebellion, now in the lower spiritual realms and cast from their places in Heaven; they exercise authority over the worldly empires on the earth
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Prophetica you know what i am talking about the city he went to, showed miracles, no one believed him, he left....
I am talking about when he was ALIVE IN THE FLESH WITH HIS DISCIPLES, but you are saying SATAN will be in a mans body and the whole world is going to believe him?
satan=adversary=demons
falseprophet=all false prophets
the beast=the rest
I know when you look at it it looks like three people going to hell, do you think only three people are going to hell?
we all know john saw symbols, he saw THREE, but it meant MANY
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/17/2008 8:42:43 AM
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...but you are saying SATAN will be in a mans body and the whole world is going to believe him?
Satan did something very similar in the Garden - he took on flesh to deceive the entire world then, Adam & Eve. And as the god of this world, as Jesus calls Satan, it seems completely possible that the whole world would believe him.
Just as Jesus' sheep hear and know His voice, so do the goats know their master's voice.
What's so complicated to understand?
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/17/2008 10:39:02 AM
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Every one whose name is not written in the Lambs book of life, from the foundation of the world will follow their master!
Your right Jim…that should be easy to understand.
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/17/2008 7:01:27 PM
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Personally, i believe we will know when the time comes. I just believe we should trust in Jesus. I certainly know that Jesus is Pure and so, he will be the one to lead those who truly love him into heaven. Just trust in Jesus.
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Personally, i believe we will know when the time comes. I just believe we should trust in Jesus. I certainly know that Jesus is Pure and so, he will be the one to lead those who truly love him into heaven.Just trust in Jesus.
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/17/2008 10:15:32 PM
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Personally, i believe we will know when the time comes. I just believe we should trust in Jesus. I certainly know that Jesus is Pure and so, he will be the one to lead those who truly love him into heaven. Just trust in Jesus.
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Satan did something very similar in the Garden - he took on flesh to deceive the entire world then, Adam & Eve. And as the god of this world, as Jesus calls Satan, it seems completely possible that the whole world would believe him.
Just as Jesus' sheep hear and know His voice, so do the goats know their master's voice.
What's so complicated to understand?
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Every one whose name is not written in the Lambs book of life, from the foundation of the world will follow their master!
Your right Jim…that should be easy to understand.
Bob
That is worth mentioning again...AMEN!
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angels in the dreams dear, that is how I know ,
prophetlady: Demons can appear as angels of light. That is why we must pray and test the spirits, otherwise we fool ourselves. You can NEVER take things at face value. God calls us to test everything against the bible and pray. If you do not do that, you have gone against God's Word.
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/18/2008 8:34:15 PM
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going along with my other post, i say that as long as we are true christians, and trust in jesus, we might not need to know the anti-christ, but recently i heard bush is talking about peace with somebody to the east of the US. Check out the news for more. it was on at 11 on either tuesday or wednesday or thursday. Sorry im so vague, but i really want to know personally. XD!
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 1/22/2008 6:17:09 AM
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Hey All & Hi,,
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I don't understand why people think this has to do with America. I would agree only if our dollar is worth less the dirt, our stock markets collapse, our economy plundges, unemployment is just about everyone in America, and we are attacked on all sides.
And then our dollar suddenly soars over the Euro, our stock markets are the prize of the world, our economy is strong beyond all imagination and no one is unemployed and all countries start worshiping America.
Then I will believe we have something to do with the fatally wounded theory about our country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7067111.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7201658.stm
The World economy is being affected by what's happening to the American Economy at the present, if it does collapse it would ripple around the world.
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I reread your comment and I dont' understand. Could I post scripture for the things I have mentioned that would change my mind? Elaborate please and maybe I can respond and make sense.
Sorry if i wasn't clear before Heaven,, What i was trying to say was-
What makes you place so much importance on the state of your economy and the revealing of the scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names. There are many verses and prophecies about this beast that will identify who, what and where this beast is. To rely just on the state of the economy as being the key to the revealing of this beast would i suspect, Not be wise.
Capture the Dream,
yours In Christ,,
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 4/28/2008 7:56:14 AM
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The Antichrist IS the Middle East, basically. It's Islam. Islam is the main spirit of antichrist. There is no one person according to 1, 2 and 3 John. The word antichrist ONLY appears in those three books, NONE of which are prophetic in nature. All John said was that the spirit of antichrist was on earth already in those days, and he said that if someone is against Christ, they are antichrist. He basically disproves the whole single person antichrist theory. NO WHERE ELSE in the Bible does it say the word Antichrist, ANYWHERE. So why the heck do people feel this obsessive need to place the title "antichrist" into every "he" in every prophetic book in the Bible? That, I will never understand. It makes no logical sense whatsoever.
We know the beasts in Daniel are Iran, Iraq, Syria and Rome. Rome get's destroyed, and then Iran, Iraq and Syria are said "to remain for a season." Those nations are called the beast. In Daniel, those nations are still around as "the beast." And they are the ones with the mark of the beast, according to Revelation. That makes a lot of sense when you see that Muslims themselves say that numerically, the number of the Koran is 666. The Koran also has 6,666 sentences. If you take Allah in Arabic and you look at it in a mirror, you'll find that it looks exactly like 666 written in Greek! Gee, a little obvious there, aren't we? We're told that a 3rd of mankind is killed by this 200 million man army in the 6th trumpet. Well, think about this... if that is spiritual death, and the beast is Islamic nations, then Islam will have killed a third of mankind on the earth spiritually, because they're almost a 3rd of the population of the world right now. They need a few more hundred million and they'll easily be a third of the population of the world. On the last day we see that Jesus returns to throw the people of the beast into the lake of fire, and that would definitely kill a third of the population of the world if all Muslims were killed in that way.
Sorry, but you can't show one verse that says there's an end time antichrist. It doesn't exist. Antichrist is not found in one single prophetic book in the Bible. Period. End of story. That's false doctrine created by the Pope by way of Jesuit priest Ribera in the 1500s. Look it up and you'll see how the Protestant Reformation was calling the Catholic church the whore of Babylon, and in order to not lose members, the Pope commissioned two Jesuit priests to come up with false doctrine on prophecy to throw off the members of the Catholic church so they would stop going over to the Protestant religion. That's where preterism and futurism both come from. Clearly false doctrines...
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 4/28/2008 8:40:13 AM
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Sorry, but you can't show one verse that says there's an end time antichrist. It doesn't exist. Antichrist is not found in one single prophetic book in the Bible. Period. End of story. That's false doctrine created by the Pope by way of Jesuit priest Ribera in the 1500s. Look it up and you'll see how the Protestant Reformation was calling the Catholic church the whore of Babylon, and in order to not lose members, the Pope commissioned two Jesuit priests to come up with false doctrine on prophecy to throw off the members of the Catholic church so they would stop going over to the Protestant religion. That's where preterism and futurism both come from. Clearly false doctrines...
No verse? And in the Gospels at the Word of Jesus: son of perdition.
Your theory is nothing more than anti arab and anti catholic rhetoric. Branham, a cultic oneness teacher, ascribed to this teaching about the Catholic Church. It is written, however, that the gates of hell will not prevail against you (The Church).
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 4/28/2008 9:50:21 AM
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The Abomination of Desolation
15"So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place let the reader understand), 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Could someone explain where "the holy place" is or the very spot where the abomination of desolation will be standing?
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 4/29/2008 12:15:57 AM
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Hello! Jesus is prophesying concerning the Temple of God that must be rebuilt at Jerusalem in accordance with The Word that He gave to Daniel through His Angel regarding how the false worldwide prophet leader known as the antichrist will put an end to sacrifice and offering and set up the abomination that causes desolations that are decreed in revelation to be poured out upon the whole empire of those that take the mark of the number of the name of the fallen 'power that be'; who once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the abyss and go to his destruction, as written. The Holy Place is the Holiest of Holies at the Ark of the Covenant of God Almighty.
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The Abomination of Desolation
15"So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place let the reader understand), 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Could someone explain where "the holy place" is or the very spot where the abomination of desolation will be standing?
PeterD
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 4/29/2008 9:16:10 AM
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The Abomination of Desolation
15"So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place let the reader understand), 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
Could someone explain where "the holy place" is or the very spot where the abomination of desolation will be standing?
PeterD
Hello! Jesus is prophesying concerning the Temple of God that must be rebuilt at Jerusalem in accordance with The Word that He gave to Daniel through His Angel regarding how the false worldwide prophet leader known as the antichrist will put an end to sacrifice and offering and set up the abomination that causes desolations that are decreed in revelation to be poured out upon the whole empire of those that take the mark of the number of the name of the fallen 'power that be'; who once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the abyss and go to his destruction, as written. The Holy Place is the Holiest of Holies at the Ark of the Covenant of God Almighty.
Jesus did not give any prophesy concerning a rebuilt temple. The abomination of desolation is an it that is standing not a he that sitteth in the temple of God.
Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Doesn't Scripture say that anyone who denies Jesus is the Christ is antichrist? Doesn't Scripture say there are many antichrists? Here are the only 4 verses that use the word antichrist or antichrists.
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
None of the verses that contain the word antichrist or antichrists say antichrist is a "false worldwide prophet leader"
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RE: The Anti-Christ is From The Middle East - 4/30/2008 4:33:20 PM
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