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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 9/22/2008 7:14:47 PM
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kingdele
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I guess since we don't have much to disagree about, we don't have much to talk about. LOL
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 9/23/2008 3:15:36 PM
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If people think that Paul washer is difficult then they should be glad that they weren't around in Jesus' time on earth.Christ was hated and men desired to kill him for a reason,people.
I pity these preachers who are loved by the world. Isn't it funny How the preachers like Osteen,Jakes and all the others who tickle people's ears are loved by the world yet the greatest of all preachers was killed?Not to mention the disciples..
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 9/23/2008 3:30:43 PM
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I got to hear Paul Washer in person this weekend - it was a huge blessing to be in a 3 day Bible conference with the pastor of the church and paul Washer giving multiple sermons in the weekend. It was a blessed time being with the other saints of God, and talking with them. I can tell you that the preaching was powerful at times, other times gentle, as he is on You Tube and other places. Paul Washer and the other ministers stayed until late at night in order to speak with the people who wanted to speak to him after the day's services, and/or between the sessions. Ask me anything - I was there in person. And i can tell you that what I noticed most about Paul was that he was kind and gentle, but also preached powerfully and deep caring for souls, and for those of us who call ourselves Christians, to make sure we are. and other such things.
I saw nothing of the sort where some previous posters thought he may be stuck up due to some comment about audience clapping for him. No such a thang. I thank the Lord for renewing my heart and mind all thru this conference! We Christians really need to be sure we are loving the Lord as Jesus sees fit, not what we think, and studying the Word of God is very very important and knowing what it says for us.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 9/25/2008 8:55:52 PM
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I give TWO THUMBS UP for pastor Paul Washer! We need more preachers like him up on those pulpits. 
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 9/27/2008 12:33:32 AM
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Unless God wills an awakening amongst this nation, its not likely we will see many preachers like Washer standing up for the truth of God's word. Nor will we find idle "Christians"
Preachers today aren't even preaching the Gospel anymore and are focusing on "bettering Self" and "God wants you rich (money wealth)", "best life now" with plays and skits, singing about the glory of heaven and not about the Glory of God.
Yes we need encouragement, but this is not spiritual encouragement... this is spiritual death...
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 9/27/2008 8:31:06 AM
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hi - if you read in the Book of Revelation, what the Spirit says to the 7 churches, you can find one that looks exactly like the church situation today.
Now, if you go to other countries who have not had these TBN-influenced boys preaching to the natives, its a totally different world.
If you go to Paul's website "Heartcry Missionary Society" you can see some videos of the mission field... and see how wonderful things are outside the USA. totally different!
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 9/27/2008 12:04:59 PM
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Unless God wills an awakening amongst this nation, its not likely we will see many preachers like Washer standing up for the truth of God's word.
Ditto. I don't know about you but sometimes I wish that even my own pastor was more like Paul Washer. I think Paul Washer is a preacher who stands up for the entire Gospel, speaks with authority & passion, and has an excellent knowledge of the Bible.
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If you go to Paul's website "Heartcry Missionary Society" you can see some videos of the mission field... and see how wonderful things are outside the USA. totally different!
I think you nailed it. Paul Washer spent 10 years in Peru as a missionary. That is awesome, you know this man is the real deal.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 10/9/2008 1:24:04 AM
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When listening to Washer first thing that comes to mind Romans 6 should we sin more that grace may abound. No may it never be so. If one is a Christian can they spend everyday living as if God wants nothing more than a statement made once. I have seen it in the lives of close friends and family. To be a Christian is more that what Talkative was saying he sure does appreciate the morality and lifestyle of those Christians. It should not be just empty words it should show in our walk. Born-again is exactly what it says we are not the same but new creature conformed to the likeness of Christ. May it never be so that I am not convicted of sin. May it never be so that I watch something that blasphemes the Holy One without remorse and a turning away from it. What does the creator of the heavens of the earth need from me. I am a sinner to who God has been merciful I cling only to the cross knowing my weaknesses and sins. They were against God to Him be the glory for all salvation because no one can save themselves.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 10/10/2008 1:36:13 AM
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To answer the OP, I think his theology sounds a lot like John Piper. That must be the Calvinism they have in common.
However, they have different themes. Piper's theme is "The chief purpose of man is to enjoy God and to glorify Him forever." Christian hedonism and all that...
Washer's theme seems to be, "There are many church-members who are hellbound because they have a false sense of security based on a sinner's prayer or some such when they should be examining their life for fruit." My paraphrase based on five or six sermons that I have listened to.
Washer's preaching has tremendous value for me because I am involved heavily in children and youth ministry. Kids are looking for something to "do" so that they will be "in" with Jesus. It is so tempting to give them this little prayer and send them on their way happy that they are in the club.
Washer would say that this makes it harder for them to accept Christ later on.
Case in point... During a youth retreat, during the closing prayer, the preacher asked if anyone had any doubts about their salvation to raise their hands. Of course, all the adult counselors were looking around. One kid raised his hand. Immediately one of the moms came over to me and said, "I thought he had already done that." Accepted Christ she meant.
Well apparently there was still doubt in his mind. I knew the kid. He had an interest in Christ, and was probably scared of hell and scared God would spank him or something. But there was no desire for prayer, Bible study, church or anything. He liked the fun and games. Basically it was a chore to him, a duty that he did to keep his rear out of trouble. Now the last thing I want to do for this kid is reassure him of his salvation, point to his baptism, to the day he went down front and shook hands with the preacher. There is not a lot of fruit in his life. I do believe God is working on his heart, but there are just not a lot of evidence. I prefer to let the Lord deal with him in His own time.
I think Washer would agree.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 10/10/2008 7:48:44 AM
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Any comments?
Teaching absolute eternal security to folks who are saved is alright I guess; though I do not see the point.
But teaching absolute eternal security to folks who might not be saved is a travesty.
And in far too many cases we end with Pastors teaching eternal security to a congregation full of lost folks and telling them they are secure.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 10/10/2008 3:44:02 PM
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Any comments?
I think you made an excellent point. Personally, the reason why I respect pastor Paul Washer is due to his straightforward style of preaching. I like him because he tells me what I need to hear instead of what I want to hear. Let me give you a perfect illustration.
One day I was driving in my car and listening to the Calvary Chapel Radio Station. The pastor on the radio was giving a message on hope and during the middle of the sermon he said "I know where all of you will be 500 hundred years from now, all of you will be in heaven!" Of course, not surprisingly, everyone in the audience started clapping their hands and cheering out loud. I was like thinking to myself, "I can't believe what I'm hearing."
Like rcjames said "And in far too many cases we end with Pastors teaching eternal security to a congregation full of lost folks and telling them they are secure." I love this quote! I would hate for someone to tell me that I will be in heaven 500 years from now and find out later that I was not even truly saved. This is false hope and I don't believe pastor Paul Washer would ever speak just to appease the crowd. I think Washer cuts right to the chase and never hides behind the bush.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 10/18/2008 3:21:26 PM
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I guess the majority of people on Crosswalk approve of Paul Washer's teachings. I didn't know who Washer was until I joined Crosswalk earlier this year. I'm glad to have been introduced to his teachings. Thanks everyone!
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/1/2008 11:01:27 PM
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kingdele
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ORIGINAL: levimichal
When listening to Washer first thing that comes to mind Romans 6 should we sin more that grace may abound. No may it never be so. If one is a Christian can they spend everyday living as if God wants nothing more than a statement made once. I have seen it in the lives of close friends and family. To be a Christian is more that what Talkative was saying he sure does appreciate the morality and lifestyle of those Christians. It should not be just empty words it should show in our walk. Born-again is exactly what it says we are not the same but new creature conformed to the likeness of Christ. May it never be so that I am not convicted of sin. May it never be so that I watch something that blasphemes the Holy One without remorse and a turning away from it. What does the creator of the heavens of the earth need from me. I am a sinner to who God has been merciful I cling only to the cross knowing my weaknesses and sins. They were against God to Him be the glory for all salvation because no one can save themselves.
Levimichal, what you said really blessed my heart. I just Prayed to God today that He may keep my heart tender towards Him and His chastenings.
Now, "May Purity, Godliness and Righteousness be so, But may sin never rule and reign in my mortal body".
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/1/2008 11:04:56 PM
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kingdele
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quote:
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ORIGINAL: OleFitzHi
Any comments?
Teaching absolute eternal security to folks who are saved is alright I guess; though I do not see the point.
But teaching absolute eternal security to folks who might not be saved is a travesty.
And in far too many cases we end with Pastors teaching eternal security to a congregation full of lost folks and telling them they are secure.
Thanks
RC
You know what Brother Washer said to me when I met him, about two weeks ago and we were discussing this issue?
He said, "I believe in the eternal security of the Believer. But not in the eternal security of those who have shown themselves unregenerate."
Even though I am not a Calvinist, I respect that statement and I think that pastors should make such clear statements when teaching the subject of Security or no-security.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/2/2008 7:10:11 PM
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I never heard of Washer. However, I just got done listening to one his sermons and I must say that I am mighty impressed. I would love to ask him to come and speak at my church at his convenience. Who knows, maybe Washer might check out this thread and accept my invitation. It's a long shot but you can never say never. I go to Community Covenant Church of Goleta.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/2/2008 11:35:18 PM
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You know what Brother Washer said to me when I met him, about two weeks ago and we were discussing this issue?
He said, "I believe in the eternal security of the Believer. But not in the eternal security of those who have shown themselves unregenerate."
Even though I am not a Calvinist, I respect that statement and I think that pastors should make such clear statements when teaching the subject of Security or no-security.
Hi - you got to meet him in person? I did too. He is a very kind-hearted humble person. and it was a blessing to hear him in person, and stay to speak with him afterward.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/3/2008 10:24:19 AM
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My view of Paul Washer?
He is the one preacher in the media (for him, internet), who preaches such a convicting message, that after he is done, I usually have to examine myself to see if my motives for ministry is right.
I thank the Lord for raising him up.
May the Lord raise up more that will preach in such an uncompromising fashion.
I listen to one of his sermons from the Deeper conference this year. He was right on, I must say.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/3/2008 4:19:39 PM
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He is the one preacher in the media (for him, internet), who preaches such a convicting message, that after he is done, I usually have to examine myself to see if my motives for ministry is right.
I've been around many churches for I used to be a church hopper. I was never settled on just one church so I visited many different churches and heard from many different pastors. I think Washer's sermon is one of a kind. It's not your typical "God loves you and were all going to heaven to live happily ever after" sermons that I am so used to hearing on Sundays from today's modern day pastors.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/3/2008 5:33:02 PM
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Johnny,
Did you hear those three messages that I added their links to this site? Please listen to them. The one that the Holy Spirit used to change my life was the one on justification.
1) True Salvation
http://playmp3.sa-media.com/media/5220621750/5220621750.mp3
2) Justification
http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=13056
3) Regeneration
http://playmp3.sa-media.com/media/63006232159/63006232159.mp3
On getting in touch with Brother Paul. It might be mighty hard for you to be able to get him to come to your church any time soon. His website makes it clear that his schedule is booked solid for 2008 and 2009. I wanted Him to come and speak at my Church's national Youth and Single's convention next year too (I believe we need some hard preaching, many are unregenerate in our midst), but it seems like he can't. If he comes to Atlanta or if I get to see him in person any time soon, I will have to beg and plead and bribe (not really, he will probably respond like Peter did to Simon in the book of Acts).
Here is the website of Heartcry, you can get the phone number of his church and contract him there: http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/contact
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/3/2008 5:45:08 PM
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Hi - you got to meet him in person? I did too. He is a very kind-hearted humble person. and it was a blessing to hear him in person, and stay to speak with him afterward.
I think we need to care more about (if possible) have the Lord Jesus meet us in person. I love brother Paul, but lets remember that he is still a human-being and not infallible.
Lets seek to meet the person who is infallible, who is not just human but God, Who is the owner and Lord of brother Paul. And who knows, maybe He will Speak to us.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/3/2008 6:50:39 PM
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kingdele,
I think Mary was just delighted that someone else besides her on Crosswalk actually got a chance to meet Paul Washer in person. I don't think she worships him in any way, shape or form. As a matter of fact, I think we all respect Washer but the bucks stops there for he indeed is just a man. Nonetheless, we all know that God is in him and working through him to turn many away from their sinful ways and we know that Washer does not fear man.
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RE: What do you think of Paul Washer? - 11/3/2008 8:13:06 PM
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kingdele
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You are right. I think I was speaking more to myself and just having a cry in my heart. I use to hold men of God in such high esteem, but now I just wanna know Jesus. And Love, worship and esteem Him more and more.
Though Washer's teachings were a part of what brought me to this point, I realize it was the Holy Spirit that spoke through him.
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