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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/29/2007 8:03:11 PM
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SarahsDaughter
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It's very disheartening when I get on here and hear in every other post that I just didn't familiarize him with the potty early enough or that I didn't start things early enough or that I wasn't persistent enough or how wrong it is to wait until they are ready.
Sarah, I think people were speaking in general terms. I didn't think anyone was telling you personally that your eldest didn't start early enough. That each family has their own extenuating circumstances is a given I believe. I hope you're not taking people's posts personally as I can imagine how distressing that would be.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/29/2007 8:08:41 PM
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Seriously, in what way do you fear Peyton might react if his little bro' starts using the potty?
Lol, I don't know. He's likely to get jealous of Tyson taking over "his" territory, but on the other hand, it is my job to teach him not to be jealous. It just seems "wrong" to have the younger one potty train first. Then again, Tyson doesn't seem to be interested in Peyton's potty training anything, so maybe it's not an issue.
FYI: we have the plastic mini-potties (commodes) in the States, too. Peyton won't use one, so we use the smaller seat on the big potty, but then he needs help to do it.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/29/2007 8:32:26 PM
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When Nathaniel started training we had a small potty chair but he very quickly wanted to move to the big potty. I never have used a small child sized seat over ours and he hasn't had any issues. He is big for his age, though and physically big enough and strong enough to go without one.
My ds was tall for his age, and strong, but he had anxieties about falling in, and the special seat reassured him.
I thought he might feel that way too, but he absolutely refused to use them at church and at my mom's. I guess falling in either didn't occur to him or didn't scare him. Now the fan in the bathroom...that's a different story. 
I was mentally comparing him with children who start younger or are just smaller, I just didn't write it out here. They might not physically be able to use a big potty without the smaller seat.
About the plastic covers that can be used for outings and such, where can I find those??? I looked all over the place in every store I could think of and I never could find them. It would have saved me from stressing about accidents in a store so much. I'd like to use them with Seth when he is first out of diapers.
I know it sounds hard to believe, but really it's true. Walmart, Kmart, Target: none of those. I even asked employees and they couldn't help me.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/29/2007 9:46:37 PM
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They are actually "ready" as soon as they can sit confidently on their own and sit still for a little while.
I totally disagree there. You haven't been down the road I have with this...but I am also not going to fight with you over that
"Ready" means ready to start - whether it takes a couple of weeks, a couple of months, or a few years. It means just 'ready' to sit there and see what happens, with it not mattering at all if nothing does. I don't really understand why you'd disagree with that. [/quote]
I do if a child is on th autistic spectrum anywhere. Our son had been allowed to direct his own potty training. He was 4 when he finally "got it". Hubbie was determined this would not happen with DD. She was showing "signs of readiness" at 27 months. Within 2 weeks of our gently encouraging her to simply sit on the potty for one brief period of time each day, she was a basket case!
We did not push anything, just calmly seated her on her beautiful potty seat every morning. She tinkled once. We said good job calmly- nothing over the top. The next day as we set her on the seat she started screaming, rocking and biting herself. Hubbie changed his mind quickly! We got rid of that potty seat that morning and did not ger another one till she was 3 and requested it. She is now trying on her own timeframe. When she asks for big girl pants, she gets them. When she wants to sit on the potty and play with water, she does. If she accidentally goes on the potty, I say nothing, but get her a mini M&M. She is slowly getting used to it but is still nowhere near being finished.
A wonderful Christian lady I know has raised 9 children. She was a firm but loving disciplinarian. All of her children turned out beautifully. When I asked her for advice about my daughter, she said "If a child over the age of 3 is still having accidents, it is a neurological issue, not a discipline issue. No child likes to be wet or stinky. That is one of the first signs a child should have a full neurological evaluation." She should know- her hubbie is a doctor and some of her children have mild forms of autism. I feel better. It is no fault of mine that my daughter has potty problems. She will go when she is ready- not when we are.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 2:15:35 AM
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manda59
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Seriously, in what way do you fear Peyton might react if his little bro' starts using the potty?
Lol, I don't know. He's likely to get jealous of Tyson taking over "his" territory, but on the other hand, it is my job to teach him not to be jealous. It just seems "wrong" to have the younger one potty train first.
Well, since he isn't using the potty it may not be an issue! In any case, you could get Tyson his own potty (ie plastic chamberpot thing), so that he's not using Peyton's.
In any case, you could always say to him that it's fine that he's not always that interested, but that it's Tyson's turn to try now. And basically just sit Tyson on occasionally, in a casual way at teeth cleaning time etc.
You might even find that Peyton's interest and willingness increases as he sees Tyson having a go.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 2:17:26 AM
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About the plastic covers that can be used for outings and such, where can I find those??? I looked all over the place in every store I could think of and I never could find them. It would have saved me from stressing about accidents in a store so much. I'd like to use them with Seth when he is first out of diapers.
I know it sounds hard to believe, but really it's true. Walmart, Kmart, Target: none of those. I even asked employees and they couldn't help me.
Do you mean plastic liners for the portable plastic potty? Or something else?
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 8:42:54 AM
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I'm not surprised that a number of children over the age of 2 don't like sitting on the potty (for the first time). It comes at a time in their development when their awareness of their own "separateness" from mum and dad increases, and their independence and autonomy comes into play. They tend to not "want" to do lots of things at that age.
Yes. I agree manda.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 9:48:19 AM
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The covers that some people use over cloth diapers. I've heard they either use the same thing over the underwear or something specifically for older children.
Sorry, I was a bit too vague there.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 9:49:14 AM
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I fought with my first for over a year. I should not have pushed him. It only served to frustrate both of us. 
My second is a year younger than my first. I was resigned to the thought of diapers for another year after we started thinking about training him...and he did it himself in a day or two!
Both boys ended up training at the same time...Noah was 3.5, Nick was 2.5. Noah (7) still needs pull-ups at night. His bladder just cannot hold it and limiting drinks after LUNCH made no difference. So...we don't stress about it and he just wears a pull-up to bed.
Haven't started truly training my 2 yo girl. I was hopeful that she would train earlier because she's a girl and have sat her on the potty regularly since she was 18 months or so. She's managed to pee once accidentally, but hasn't done it again since. Usually, she'll tell me she has to go, sits for about a minute (and it's impossible to get her to sit longer...I've tried everything), stands up, and then promptly pees on the floor. 
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 10:24:45 AM
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That would be what I'm looking for. I guess I'll have to order them online. It just seems strange to not be able to find them in stores!
Thanks!
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 10:52:35 AM
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Anyone use the cheerio method for boys? It's always seemed weird to me to take something edible (or not normally for the potty) and use that. I mean I'm trying to teach Peyton things DON'T go in the potty.
no...absolutely not...we taught to sit and potty, i can't imagine the messes we would have had if we went with the stand up method while potty training...lol.
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About the plastic covers that can be used for outings and such, where can I find those??? I looked all over the place in every store I could think of and I never could find them. It would have saved me from stressing about accidents in a store so much. I'd like to use them with Seth when he is first out of diapers.
google "gerber training pants"...i say gerber because that's the only brand i have seen in recent years...but there may be more. if you have your google set to your area then it will bring up where you can get the3m in your area.
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It's very disheartening when I get on here and hear in every other post that I just didn't familiarize him with the potty early enough or that I didn't start things early enough or that I wasn't persistent enough or how wrong it is to wait until they are ready.
Sarah, I think people were speaking in general terms. I didn't think anyone was telling you personally that your eldest didn't start early enough. That each family has their own extenuating circumstances is a given I believe. I hope you're not taking people's posts personally as I can imagine how distressing that would be.
No one was telling me personally, but I have potty trained two successfully and I know what did and did not work. Some of the posts are very degrading sounding to someone that doesn't put their baby on the pot to sit early enough. That was what I was talking about. It is very disheartening to someone that has had trouble with potty training to come into a place like this and see one post after another after another of someone saying that it is all because they weren't sat on the seat early enough...and if you re-read the beginning of this thread that is how it comes across because every other post is saying the same thing. This thread started out as one thing and very quickly, in my observances, turned into something else. I thought this was supposed to be a place to give ideas of what did and did not work in potty training for those that need that help...but if you read the beginning posts it does not come across like that, it comes across as "if it wasn't done this way then it isn't correct". Not sure it was meant that way, but that is how it comes across. That is what I was talking about is disheartening...the negativity towards something you someone didn't try or doesn't do personally.
I do not agree with sitting a child on the potty before potty training readiness is there (mentally and physically). That to me is pushing them into something that they are clearly not ready for. It has been said to start this if they can sit still and sit confidently...well, my eight month old can do those...but I am not going to put him on the potty...he is not in any way near being ready for that. Generalizations are not good in this type of a discussion.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 4:09:33 PM
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in regards to the younger being trained before the first) My 17 mth. old baby is potty trained. my two and half daughter still is not. I think it up to the child if they are going to train or not. good news is after younger got the hang of it, older sister became more interested. I say go ahead and train whoever wants to be trained. Also while training my eldest daughter (8) we had a house fire,and had to move for six months while our house was reparied. It didn't hold up her training at all. Best of luck to everyone.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 5:43:00 PM
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In response then, did other mom's potty train around new babies, moves, or other changes? Lol, I'm not normally so by the book with things, I think I just feel a little out of my element with the potty training. No, sorry, a LOT out of my element.
My beloved and I discussed everything, and have decided to get Tyson a potty to see what happens!!! I am a little nervous as I kinda feel like we've been unsuccessful with Peyton, so starting over is scary.
Sarah, you and the others who've had children 2 and 3 and just getting potty trained are biiiig encouragers to me. I did start the thread for potty training parents to get encouragement and tips!
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 6:05:10 PM
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I got "gerber vinyl pants" at wal-mart (in Canada). The package is small, and it was near the cloth diapers and swimwear diapers... not at all near the panties/underwear.
Photo here:
http://www.pottytrainingconcepts.com/GBV-6PCK-G-z.html
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/30/2007 10:07:37 PM
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My three yo was potty trained just a little over a month before we moved. It didn't bother him a bit.
About three weeks into his wearing underwear we were out and about a lot as I was looking for and at rental houses.
Thanks for the link for the gerber pants. Maybe I just have a blind spot for the things. Ha. I'll do another more in depth tour of the merchandise before I order them online. I just can't imagine them not carrying them in store. That would just be silly.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/31/2007 12:20:23 AM
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As far as tips, we have one motiivator that some may frown on, but it makes for a positive view of the potty. We got a tube of mini M&M's.
we tried that and stickers and toys and all sorts of things with our first two. Our third though cracked me up...when she was first getting interested in the potty we were trying to give her something for going and so we tried the stickers, she wasn't interested. We then tried the mini M&M's and she would run through the house with her little treasure and get so excited then choose someone to give it to...LOL
we are always moving or changing (part of the military life)...so we can't stop life for that. However we don't push and push when they start going backwards on things...we know especially that our first will go back. This is one reason we are really hoping and praying that this move is our last for a while...our kids need to be settled. The last time we were settled was when #2 was a baby which was 8 moves and five years ago for us...we are all ready to get settled again.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/31/2007 1:21:49 PM
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"We then tried the mini M&M's and she would run through the house with her little treasure and get so excited then choose someone to give it to...LOL "
LOL... that is so sweet!
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/31/2007 6:35:07 PM
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That would be what I'm looking for. I guess I'll have to order them online. It just seems strange to not be able to find them in stores!
Thanks!
That is strange you can't find any, have you tried the local supermarket? or have you tried asking target or kmart or something if they will order some in for you? what about trying the drug store too.
They are all over the place here in Australia
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 3/31/2007 6:39:22 PM
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Heather I have read and heard from other parents that starting something new just before a big change is not good for some little ones, especially those who are more aware of what is going on, which is why i started Grace training on the toilet atleast 9 mths before this baby comes, that way she should be in a good pattern when baby arrives and if she happens to revert back it won't be so hard to get her back to normal again.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/10/2007 4:55:46 PM
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I've been glued to this thread!! There is such great info here. Thank you to the experienced mommies who are willing to share their ideas!
I do have one question. Could it be possible that my 14 month old son is ready to start trying the potty? He has started to "complain" about wet diapers lately, and has even started stripping off his clothes and diaper as a signal he wants to be changed. If I ask him if he needs his diaper changed, he starts heading to his room (where the changing table is). To me, it sounds like he's ready, at least ready enough to start sitting on the potty and trying it out. What do you think? I wasn't planning on starting him on the potty until about 18 months, but if this is my opportunity, I should jump on it. I was fully potty trained at 18 months, maybe my son has the same idea!
Also, do any of you have a recommendation for a potty chair? We have a really tiny bathroom and was considering getting just one of those seats that sits on the big toilet to save room. Anyone have any experience with these? Or is it best to get an actual potty chair?
Thanks in advance for your words of wisdom!
Sara
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/10/2007 5:52:00 PM
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I do have one question. Could it be possible that my 14 month old son is ready to start trying the potty? He has started to "complain" about wet diapers lately, and has even started stripping off his clothes and diaper as a signal he wants to be changed. If I ask him if he needs his diaper changed, he starts heading to his room (where the changing table is). To me, it sounds like he's ready, at least ready enough to start sitting on the potty and trying it out. What do you think? I wasn't planning on starting him on the potty until about 18 months, but if this is my opportunity, I should jump on it. I was fully potty trained at 18 months, maybe my son has the same idea!
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