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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/10/2007 6:02:25 PM
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dramagirl4God
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I totally agree, my 2yo won't sit on the commode, but I wish he would. He has to be lifted onto and off of the training seat, and has far less independence about going potty. The commode doesn't HAVE to be in the restroom, I've heard of people placing them in their kid's bedrooms for easy access in the morning, or the playroom so it's there consistanlty, and in the child's mind through out the day.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/10/2007 11:32:40 PM
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Yes, with a 14 month old I'd start with a small potty chair.
My middle daughter was funny though. We had a potty chair as well as a ring for the toilet. I don't remember if she started out using the little potty or not, but at some point she was very indignant at the mere suggestion that she sit on the little potty. She preferred the ring. She didn't train until about 2 3/4 though.
The above child was trained about two months before her baby brother was born. She did not regress at all when he was born. She did go on potty strike for a weekend when her brother was about 12 months and she'd just turned four. I never did figure out what that was all about.
We'd been setting her on the potty for months and talking about using the potty for months. She was very verbal and could hold her pee for long periods of time. So one day I just told her she'd be wearing underwear. She had a few accidents, but did pretty much okay. I wondered why I hadn't given her the underwear sooner. This is the girl that we'd talk about using the potty with, and she said "I did already." Meaning she did once, last month. She didn't actually go on the potty much at all before we took the diapers away.
With all my kids I introduced the potty sometime in the year after their first birthday.
My youngest seemed to know what to do right away. She was about 16 months when I introduced it. She had to go frequently though, so I felt like she didn't really know how to empty her bladder when she went. She frequently woke up dry at that point so I felt like she physically could hold it, but just hadn't figured it out. It helped that I could put her on the potty in the morning and she could usually go as her diaper had stayed dry all night.
With her I backed off on the training since she didn't seem ready yet and a busy summer was coming. Just before her older siblings went back to school at 21 months I put her back in training pants and she figured it out. There were a lot of accidents, but she was making steady progress. I think this was easier than waiting before her habits became more ingrained and her will became stronger after she turned two. It was a lot of work for me, but I preferred it to buying and changing diapers.
My oldest I gave underwear at 2.5 and she figured it out pretty quickly.
My son trained just after he turned three. I let him run around the house with naked bottoms for a while. That greatly helped him figure out what was going on.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/11/2007 12:11:35 AM
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I agree with Manda. As long as you don't pressure him or have any expectations, what could be the harm in letting him sit on the potty?
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/12/2007 10:31:06 AM
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SaraSchlick
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Thank you for all of your advice!! I'm going to go out an buy a potty chair this weekend and start sitting him on it. I found one (Graco, I think) that is a potty chair and also has a removable seat to use on the big potty when he's ready. I think I'll go with that one. I like the idea of having him sit there when I'm brushing his teeth, or while I'm running his bath. I'm going to start with that.
Ok, another question: For those of you who have trained boys, at what age did they start standing to use the potty? I remember my aunt training my cousins to stand from the very beginning. To me, this seems WAY harder and not necessary until later on. Besides that, their aim can't be that good!  What's your opinion?
Thanks again for your feedback.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/12/2007 1:02:39 PM
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Ok, another question: For those of you who have trained boys, at what age did they start standing to use the potty? I remember my aunt training my cousins to stand from the very beginning. To me, this seems WAY harder and not necessary until later on. Besides that, their aim can't be that good! What's your opinion?
Let's see: first it was sit to use the (plastic portable) potty (remember to have one with a splash guard in front, and/or teach him to point himself down); then, probablyby the time he was 3, it was sit on the toilet (big fixed fixture potty!), still with making sure he pointed it down (one finger was enough). He learned to stand at the toilet when he was 4 or 5.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/12/2007 1:05:38 PM
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ok...now what I don't agree with Manda on...She said not to apply pressure...that I do agree with, but she said not even positive pressure...that part I find to be the opposite of what I would do.
Positive pressure can imply expectations on your part and engender expectations (through wanting to please) on the child's part. Not being able to go, or having accidents, can lead to extreme disappointment. A strong-willed child might even decide to be ornery and hold on to their bodily functions in order to assert their will. Mine were/are both strong-willed so we held back on even positive pressure so that it did not become a power/control issue.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/12/2007 6:29:51 PM
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dramagirl4God
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Well, with Peyton, when we show ANY interest he backs off, but if we are very nonchalant, and he gets to decide, he'll use the potty from time to time...he's VERY strong willed (lol as has been discussed) so maybe this is why, Manda!
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/13/2007 8:29:19 PM
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I have a two year old girl (aaliyah) I have problems with potty training... When we first started her on it she went in the potty a few times but when she did it she screamed... And now she just refuses to go on the potty... She has all the signs of potty training and she will even clap her hands when I go and point at the sticker chart to tell me I get a sticker... lol... And she will go and try to flush it.... I will ask her if she wants to go on the potty and she will start screaming... And when I do get her on, I read a book to her or she will play with her toys and she will sit there for like ten minutes and then starts to cry to get off... So I let her off the potty and then about five min. later she goes in her diaper... Does anyone have any advise for me??? I would appreciate it a lot.. Thank you...
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/13/2007 8:58:30 PM
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manda59
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tanya,
I'd suggest a total break for 2-3 weeks, then try again. Though next time don't make her sit there - just pop her on it while you clean her teeth/wash her face/dry her after a bath.
Though could I just ask - how do you react when she then goes in her diaper?
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/13/2007 9:24:20 PM
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also Tanya, I think sitting on it for 10 mins is kind of long for a little one, I only "made" Grace sit on it for a minute at the most and if nothing came out she got off (I am talking about the toilet by the way, not the potty, she could sit on her potty all day watching tv if I let her!).
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/13/2007 9:28:18 PM
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manda59
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I agree about the 10 mins, nicole, generally speaking. Especially at the start.
But the TV played a big part in potty training both my children, I have to say!!
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/13/2007 9:37:57 PM
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tanya777
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Thank you both for your suggestions... Sometimes I do have her on for ten min. , sometimes five min... Depending on how she reacts.. I had stopped trying now for a few weeks and am thinking about trying her on it again... I did ask her again yesterday if she wanted to go sit on the potty and she starts to cry and say no... We have tried using both a smaller potty and also the toilet with a smaller seat for it... Both of them were working but now she just doesnt want anything to do with it.... Even though, every time she sees me go she claps her hands and says yay.... With diaper changes, I just ask if she needs one if she doesnt tell me herself by getting a diaper or laying on the floor to be changed... She hates sitting in dirty or wet diapers.... I dont scold her at all for going in her diaper.... Ive bought a book on potty training and tried its suggestions but that dont seem to work either.... Its been hard for me too cause Im also chasing after a seven month old as well... What has worked for you parents who have trained there children....???
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/13/2007 9:41:28 PM
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nicole6598
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tanya could you just try not putting a diaper on her and leaving a portable potty where she is playing and see what happens? I did that with Grace one day, not on purpose really, and then to my surprise without me nagging her or telling her she needed to go and she did then carried it out proud as punch!
Also maybe in the toilet could you stick some pictures up of her favourite characters or something. Grace and I decorated her portable potty with Wiggles stickers which she enjoyed doing, gave her some ownership I think.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/13/2007 9:42:04 PM
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Ok, another question: For those of you who have trained boys, at what age did they start standing to use the potty? I remember my aunt training my cousins to stand from the very beginning. To me, this seems WAY harder and not necessary until later on. Besides that, their aim can't be that good! What's your opinion?
My three year old (since January) has just this week decided on his own that he wants to go potty like Daddy. He says he isn't a girl, he's a boy. LOL! He has great aim so far, hasn't made even the tiniest mess...but I'm really having to remind him to put the seat down. I told him today that I wasn't gonna have his future wife on my back because I didn't teach him right! 
It really depends on the kid I guess.
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/13/2007 10:05:36 PM
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tanya777
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OK.. I will have to try that... Do you suggest I put her potty in the living room or her bedroom... ??When shes in the bathroom with me when I go, she likes to play with her potty chair so Im afraid shed play with hers and not use it for the attended purpose... Also, what works as far as picking up a "accident". And when she does have an accident, how should I go about it.. Should I scold her or should I just let it go???
But yeah I have some stickers that she can decorate it with.. Thanks...
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/14/2007 12:04:51 AM
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Tanya, We have the potty in the lounge as that is the place she plays in the most and I can see what she is up to most of the time. Can you role play with teddy's or dolls what you are meant to do on it, and every morning emphasise no playing or touching in the potty because it's yucky? I had to do that with grace, she has never played with the potty but she used to play with her poo out of her nappy. I think you have to expect there may be some playing and if there is just let her know it's yucky and not safe and wash her hands well.
I pick up the accident wearing those disposable plastic gloves and toilet paper then i spray it with detergent (disinfectant may stain the carpet). when she does have an accident I don't yell or smack her as they may have been on their way but couldn't get there quick enough, I just say in a kind of sad voice "ohh Grace, we have to do it in potty or toilet hon, next time in the potty ok?"
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/14/2007 10:18:57 AM
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tanya777
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OK... Thank you Nicole... Now, when I do put her on the potty and if she screams should I make her sit there or should I just wait another month and try again?
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RE: The Potty Training Thread - 4/14/2007 12:46:11 PM
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manda59
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OK... Thank you Nicole... Now, when I do put her on the potty and if she screams should I make her sit there or should I just wait another month and try again?
Don't ever *make* her sit there if she doesn't want to.
Can I rewind back a bit to what Nicole actually suggested? The letting her run around with no undies on, with a potty in the vicinity? (this works especially well outside in the garden actually - cos you don't have to clear up the wee!) If you do this, just let her play till you see signs of her wanting to go - and then just wait and see if she naturally goes to the potty herself, without you saying anything. If she wets herself, don't tell her off, just take her in, clean her up, clean the floor, and carry on, gently saying "maybe next time you can go on the potty!" and carry on.
You will clearly need to have some time for this, when you can be with her and not be doing housework, or having people round etc. She will need quality time with you for this so that you can watch her and help her. If you had some time like this every day for 2 weeks, you might find she "clicks" in that time, but she would need the consistent "every day the same" routine.
Do you already sit her on the potty when you clean her teeth morning and evening?
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