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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/18/2009 1:00:32 PM   
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I had to correct a couple of misconceptions but, otherwise, we were on the same page. He said he now believes the 5 tenets of reformed theology (TULIP) but he said he wasn't a Calvinist. Like more than a few Southern Baptists, he confused hyper-Calvinists with Calvinists. After explaining the difference, he's okay with calling himself a Calvinist.


Well, there is nothing holy about the name 'Calvinist'. I prefer to be called 'Reformed', myself. Having grown up with one foot in the Primitive Baptist church, I can see how Southern Baptists (i.e. 'Missionary' Baptists ) lump hyper-Calvinists with real Calvinists.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/18/2009 1:00:33 PM   
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That's a great E.G.G. to share with others...wow

(e.g.g. = evidence of God's grace)

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/18/2009 3:03:17 PM   
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Doink, you are just glowing today. A picture of health.

Euty, I experienced an uncomfortable discussion in our SS this past Sunday. We are listening to Sprouls Reformed Theology and then having discussion after. The instructor stated that we had an absolute responsibility to inform other believers outside of the reformed faith of the CORRECT theology. I disagree with this. I came to faith outside of the reformed faith as has my son. He is strictly free will but talks to me openly about our differences in opinion now. I am not about to force reformed tenets down him or my parents or my friends. I am open to answer questions or explain but this seems to me like a self righteous approach and a declaration that they are not equal in faith or salvation. I believe the holy spirit will convict and lead them as he did me in my reading and study. What do you think?

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/18/2009 5:03:36 PM   
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The instructor stated that we had an absolute responsibility to inform other believers outside of the reformed faith of the CORRECT theology.


And what do we always ask for when someone makes questionable statements? "What scripture supports your argument?" I wonder how your instructor would handle Romans 14.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/19/2009 6:16:49 AM   
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Just some questions for this forum. Is it enough to just be identified as a Christian? When we stand before God, do you think He will ask us about our different denominations and beliefs? Or do you think He will ask us, have you accepted my Son, Jesus Christ as the atonement for your sins? Just asking.

Thank you.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/19/2009 6:57:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IstandInHisPresence

Just some questions for this forum. Is it enough to just be identified as a Christian? When we stand before God, do you think He will ask us about our different denominations and beliefs? Or do you think He will ask us, have you accepted my Son, Jesus Christ as the atonement for your sins? Just asking.

Thank you.


He won't need to ask, He knows His own. It won't be a great comprehensive test in the sky. I think it will be more like a self awareness package when I'll see all that I did in context and will have knowledge beyond my limited picture I have now. Total awareness from His view. Wow.

Doug, good point. I've had some good classes in this church, but this particular instructor seems rather dogmatic.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/19/2009 10:19:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IstandInHisPresence

Just some questions for this forum. Is it enough to just be identified as a Christian? When we stand before God, do you think He will ask us about our different denominations and beliefs? Or do you think He will ask us, have you accepted my Son, Jesus Christ as the atonement for your sins? Just asking.

Thank you.


Neither. He won't ask us anything. He will open the book and see if our names are there. Of course, as Dove said, He knows His own, so even that is a metaphor for our feeble minds.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/19/2009 12:48:32 PM   
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BTW, I finally found a local source for Marmite, a Southern Family Market in Dothan with an international snack section. I'm not sure if $5.79 is steep for a 125g jar but it sure beats the $15.50 I paid for the same size with S&H added in.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/19/2009 1:04:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Eutychus

BTW, I finally found a local source for Marmite, a Southern Family Market in Dothan with an international snack section. I'm not sure if $5.79 is steep for a 125g jar but it sure beats the $15.50 I paid for the same size with S&H added in.


My family's favorite is Nutella. That European spread is not so hard to find. But one jar might last one day in our house.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 2/19/2009 2:08:17 PM   
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For the last couple of years my wife has kept some Nutella on hand. But unlike Marmite, I've seen that in several stores around here.

However, I don't eat a lot of sweets, so the Marmite is more my style.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/12/2009 5:28:57 PM   
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On the way to work this moring, I was listening to the radio...His Radio or some local Christian station.

Anyways, the DJ's were discussing being single in today's world, etc. and they were laughing about pick-up lines. This one made me laugh...

"I never believed in predestination until now..." you can combine dating with good theology!

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/12/2009 6:35:45 PM   
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I think I may have used that line back in college. I obviously didn't work!

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/22/2009 8:06:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Doveflight

Doink, you are just glowing today. A picture of health.

Euty, I experienced an uncomfortable discussion in our SS this past Sunday. We are listening to Sprouls Reformed Theology and then having discussion after. The instructor stated that we had an absolute responsibility to inform other believers outside of the reformed faith of the CORRECT theology. I disagree with this. I came to faith outside of the reformed faith as has my son. He is strictly free will but talks to me openly about our differences in opinion now. I am not about to force reformed tenets down him or my parents or my friends. I am open to answer questions or explain but this seems to me like a self righteous approach and a declaration that they are not equal in faith or salvation. I believe the holy spirit will convict and lead them as he did me in my reading and study. What do you think?


I think we've got a lot more important things to do. If you're preaching the gospel like you should, from a solid theological standpoint, then those who are outside the reformed "faith" (what an odd term) will hear it and if they need to get it, then God will plant the seed.

Of course, we have to obey the scriptural injunction to "be ready in season and out of season", and I believe that a Reformed position offers a lot more hope to give reason for than any other--but I do not agree that that means I need to be snarky and CORRECT everyone I meet. I think I would not be trusting God to do His job right if I felt I had to discover every one of my acquaitances' theological position and then work to correct it.

Just my thoughts.

That sovereignty thing? It really works!

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/23/2009 1:21:03 PM   
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Thanks for your thoughts Shallbe.

An update on my health. The cancer counts are rising once again. Ive been on chemo for 3 1/2 yrs now with 7 or 8 different drugs. Not sure that any others will work or that I will be able to tolerate them. Next appointment is March 31.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/23/2009 1:46:09 PM   
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{{{{dove}}}}

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/23/2009 10:43:05 PM   
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Dove just keep on keeping on.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/23/2009 11:02:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Doveflight

Thanks for your thoughts Shallbe.

An update on my health. The cancer counts are rising once again. Ive been on chemo for 3 1/2 yrs now with 7 or 8 different drugs. Not sure that any others will work or that I will be able to tolerate them. Next appointment is March 31.


I know it doesn't help much, Dove, but {{{{{{{{{{DOVE}}}}}}}}}.

My prayers are with you.


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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/25/2009 12:47:35 AM   
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Ok... I just stumbled across this on another forum...

Has anybody ever read the Book of Joe? It's right after He Brews.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/25/2009 8:51:58 AM   
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LOL John, That's a good laugh. Thanks

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/25/2009 10:01:34 AM   
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Just as a side-bar mention. I attend a calvary chapel but my pastor knows I am a card carrying 5 pointer, I dont preach calvin, I preach the scriptures, I dont preach chuck smith I preach the scriptures. What I interpret the scriptures to mean is condusive to alignment with reformed theology. I told my pastor that is what I believe and I stand by that. We have an agreement...We both love Jesus and we both preach the gospel according to our conscience.

QUESTION TO ALL.....

In newsweek there is supposed to be an article about the 5 new ideas changing the world, and one of them is the 'new calvinism'....with quotes from Mark Driscol...anyone read it yet???? is it on the net??

John

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/25/2009 10:22:02 AM   
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Mark Driscoll...I'd personally give it a miss if I did find it.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/25/2009 10:22:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gloryandgrace
QUESTION TO ALL.....

In newsweek there is supposed to be an article about the 5 new ideas changing the world, and one of them is the 'new calvinism'....with quotes from Mark Driscol...anyone read it yet???? is it on the net??

John


I just tried to find it and didn't. Was it in this week's issue?

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/25/2009 12:43:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: doinkdom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gloryandgrace
QUESTION TO ALL.....

In newsweek there is supposed to be an article about the 5 new ideas changing the world, and one of them is the 'new calvinism'....with quotes from Mark Driscol...anyone read it yet???? is it on the net??

John


I just tried to find it and didn't. Was it in this week's issue?


Here's the link:
10 Ideas Changing the World Right Now: #3. The New Calvinism

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/25/2009 1:55:45 PM   
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It sounds like "new" Calvinism is just a resurgence of "old" Calvinism in the post-Wesleyan aftermath in the USA
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 3/25/2009 2:15:34 PM   
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Thanks for the link.

Entire article had too much sarcasm to be taken seriously, imo.

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