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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/10/2009 12:38:42 PM
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Reba
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Do you guys do Sunday night church? Growing up AG we always went to Sunday night service in fact it seemed like we lived at church most of the week, anyway.... dh has been studying "keeping the Sabbath holy" and since our new church has Sunday service we will be going when we can.
AofG ! Daddy was AofG preacher for ever.
A discussion about this in a more open thread would just be a battle I am not looking for a battle just some understanding.
...I truly want to understand how, why, etc,
the change from the Sabbath ( Saturday) to Sunday. My view... Paul seems to have kept Sabbath and also Sunday (The Lords Day). Any thoughts??
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/10/2009 12:47:06 PM
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AofG ! Daddy was AofG preacher for ever.
I grew up Free Will Baptist (sort of a non-charismatic cousin to AofG) and my FIL was a FWB pastor until his death last autumn at age 83. Talking about him last night with my wife, I learned that in his later years he came to accept Perseverance of the Saints but only told her because he knew how the family (many still in the FWB denomination) would react.
I cannot recall meeting anyone that spent serious time in the Reformed camp switching to the Armin persuasion, but there are a lot us that have become convinced to move in the other direction. I wonder if that switch in position was as painful for others as it was for me.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/10/2009 7:05:21 PM
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Reba
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Eudy,
It wasn't hard for me i saw the change as growth. Dad was leaning to 'reform' but God took him home. I wish i understood the use of terms better. You are correct from what i see about the camp jumping. Seems the track runs almost one way...
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. does not say you can yourself
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/10/2009 7:48:11 PM
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Reba, when I said Sabath I meant Sunday. It's just been awhile since I went to church on a Sunday night. It's been nice so far.
Euty, you were once an Armin.? I know I was taught that stuff growing up AG and I was also taught alot of other stuff that made no sense to me and in fact caused me to rebel big time.
I just found out that a counsin of mine, whom I haven't seen in awhile got saved and is attending an AG church. I think it's kind of funny, knowing our family history.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/10/2009 8:08:05 PM
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Reba, when I said Sabath I meant Sunday. It's just been awhile since I went to church on a Sunday night. It's been nice so far.
Deb that is my point.... i notice a few 'reformers' who interchange the words Sunday and Sabbath. I am wondering why and/or how.
I kinda believe freewill is for babes.. That is a statement that could get ya beat up 
I will ALWAYS be thankfull forthe years of AofG Sunday school. In our house we did not have the Little Golden Books we had Bible stories.....I can not count the times my mind has gone back to the stories the message got through Dad!
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/10/2009 8:19:56 PM
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Reba
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Reba, when I said Sabath I meant Sunday. It's just been awhile since I went to church on a Sunday night. It's been nice so far.
Euty, you were once an Armin.? I know I was taught that stuff growing up AG and I was also taught alot of other stuff that made no sense to me and in fact caused me to rebel big time.
I just found out that a counsin of mine, whom I haven't seen in awhile got saved and is attending an AG church. I think it's kind of funny, knowing our family history.
Not all AofG are like Dad went against the grain  I pray there are others....
Deb Do you know who Dr Gene Scott is? or better yet was? He was in AofG Bible School in the 40s He was the cigar smoking, cowboy hat waring creep of a preacher on TV. He had a lot to do getting the AofG teaching in written form. So many AofG have gone creepo Scott swaggart bakker, krouch, makes ya wonder...
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/11/2009 7:59:59 AM
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Eutychus
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Euty, you were once an Armin.? I know I was taught that stuff growing up AG and I was also taught alot of other stuff that made no sense to me and in fact caused me to rebel big time.
There's not an Armin posting in the C/A and related threads that could hold a candle to my rabid attacks againt RT back in the 70s. In fact, some of the regular Armins are pretty sad in comparison. That's what I meant by "painful" because I believed the "saved by grace, kept by works" and their version of Free Will 110%.
It's also interesting to now read passages that I thought proved the error of Reformed theology but find they no longer do. It was because of the mindset I approached all scripture: first my doctrine, then how the Bible fit that.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/17/2009 7:59:11 PM
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Thanks.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/20/2009 1:40:00 PM
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What role does "evangelism" play in Reformed theology?
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/20/2009 2:03:18 PM
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What role does "evangelism" play in Reformed theology?
Evangelism is central to Christianity. Therefore, it is central to RT.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/21/2009 1:57:35 PM
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What role does "evangelism" play in Reformed theology?
Do you "know" who God has chosen?
If not, we gotta tell everyone! LOL
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/22/2009 5:47:43 PM
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Good point.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/22/2009 9:23:58 PM
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Coming from similar backgrounds ...... I have found a difference in the way i speak of Jesus and Scripture.....I was taught by example, i guess, to wait tell the time was right, or how could i turn the conversation, not to offend etc.
I have found my self to be boulder. The Word is His. The plan of salvation is His. It is not up to me to make 'it' fit. Just up to me to tell, and share the scriptures. Quoting a scripture or 2 to a few cowboys sitting at your cafe eating a burger and having a few beers is weird. God has placed me where i am i pray to be the best handmaiden of the Lord i can be.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/24/2009 8:41:20 AM
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We had a strange situation in my town a couple of weeks ago - the entire staff of a local SBC resigned on the same day. The pastor issued something like a statement of doctrines and church covenant. In it, he said the church would addopt Reformed Theology. (This is a little rare here, but another SBC has an RT pastor but without internal problems realted to that.) I don't think RT was the primary issue, but his church covenant with an exhaustive series of "will not" statements, including certain activities and sale or use of alcoholic beverages.
Apparently, the staff was behind the pastor, who let the church vote on adopting the package deal, which each member would, then, be required to sign. The vote was overwhelmingly against the proposal and the staff all resigned.
If you look at their current staff page, only two secretaries are listed.
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The former pastor has actually started a new church with members willing to go along with his list of standards.
What strange times...
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/24/2009 12:18:05 PM
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SBC churches tend to accept 2-3 points of TULIP, almost all accept T & P, sometimes I, but seldom U or L. Most adhere to dispy eschaltology. Most eschew any form of beverage alcohol.
SBC members tend to such grocery-cart-theology shoppers, you are most likely to find a mish-mash of pop theology rather than anything like a consistent and cohesive theology.
But there are a few that embrace RT from a Baptist perspective. Link:
Founders Ministries
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/24/2009 9:44:37 PM
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crankius, I like your guitar. :)
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/25/2009 9:58:47 AM
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Hello Ms. monkey! Been so long my coffee is COLD!
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/25/2009 2:33:39 PM
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Eutychus
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I at least understand the thought process and "Bible view" having come from the other side. They, OTH, can only project their prejudices against RT.
It's almost funny when an Armin quotes copius portions of scripture and think, "GOTCHA," but my response is that I agree with the entire passage. It just doesn't say what they think it says through their programmed premise.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 8/25/2009 8:24:27 PM
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Hello Ms. monkey! Been so long my coffee is COLD!
Here's a warmer for you! :) My modem crashed last week, and the new one arrived just last night. Add the new school year starting...been busy. I hope you've been doing well.
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