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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/2/2009 5:35:35 PM   
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/20/2009 6:41:48 PM   
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Just stopping in to say that hearing Acts taught from a Reformed (OP) view is eye opening. PTL

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/21/2009 10:59:50 AM   
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Amen Sister! Amen...

This Sunday, we continued in the book of Genesis and it was so cool. Now I know where Jerry Springer gets ideas for his show...Genesis! LOL

For some reason I never connected the dots with Joseph and how/when it started with the nation of Israel coming under Pharoah's rule...Genesis 47.

Fascinating...really it was for me.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/21/2009 11:26:05 AM   
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This may sound like a strange question: just keep in mind that I haven't been fully Reformed for very long...

I'm hoping that there is some scriptural perspective that I am missing.

Let's say that many things in a person's life have been difficult over the last 10 years or so. It seems like especially in the last 5, every day is a new unexpected crisis. It's nothing life-threatening, but there's hardly a break, either. Being Reformed, this person doesn't believe they deserve better, but also wonders just how much pressure it's gonna take for God to get glory from their life.

Are Calvinists more depressed than non-Calvinists? At some point, have any of you ever thought "well, in His Sovereignty, God is just going to slap it to me, and I have to try to like it?"

I'm not trying to be irreverent. I'm trying to get a better perspective and understand how to think about this. I feel like I'm flunking Sovereignty 101...

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/21/2009 11:28:49 AM   
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This may sound like a strange question: just keep in mind that I haven't been fully Reformed for very long...

I'm hoping that there is some scriptural perspective that I am missing.

Let's say that many things in a person's life have been difficult over the last 10 years or so. It seems like especially in the last 5, every day is a new unexpected crisis. It's nothing life-threatening, but there's hardly a break, either. Being Reformed, this person doesn't believe they deserve better, but also wonders just how much pressure it's gonna take for God to get glory from their life.

Are Calvinists more depressed than non-Calvinists? At some point, have any of you ever thought "well, in His Sovereignty, God is just going to slap it to me, and I have to try to like it?"

I'm not trying to be irreverent. I'm trying to get a better perspective and understand how to think about this. I feel like I'm flunking Sovereignty 101...

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/21/2009 11:28:59 AM   
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I don't want to give a flippant "Jesus" answer but I did want to give you a quick hug so that you know you are not alone...

Will be back after lunch....

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/21/2009 3:06:25 PM   
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Are Calvinists more depressed than non-Calvinists? At some point, have any of you ever thought "well, in His Sovereignty, God is just going to slap it to me, and I have to try to like it?"


We are still who we are. We have battles to fight lessons to learn. My life had the most terrible tragedy after RT. Knowing( in my head & heart) He is/was in control was the most reassuring comfort. The God who created everything made and numbered the stars knows the hairs on your head. As tough as it may seem REST in Him He alone is able...

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/21/2009 7:52:17 PM   
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I tend to see Calvanists as more down to earth and dealing with reality better than those who are say charismatic(ssp?).

I think a good study on who God is would help you. I know it has helped me understand how life works.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/21/2009 10:26:23 PM   
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ShallBe,

While reading your post, I immediately thought of James 1 (Consider it pure joy), Hebrews 12 (For the Lord disciplines those he loves), Romans 8, and others...

Consider this, for what it's worth. Sometimes a person's life is turned upside down by unexpected events. We don't see the big picture as God sees it, but we do know that he works all things for our good. Perhaps God *reshapes* a person whose life has changed dramatically by allowing them/leading them to experience an unusually longer period of struggle. The Holy Spirit will develop more fruit and a deeper faith through the struggles, and possibly God will send that person on a new task in life, better equipped to serve Him because of the period of challenges.

Gotta love the sanctification process!

As to Reformers being more depressed than the non-Reformed? Bah! Humbug!

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/22/2009 8:20:59 AM   
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As to Reformers being more depressed than the non-Reformed? Bah! Humbug!

My earliest impression, when I began to engage them, was that Reformers I met had an excellent sense of humor. If I can have at an occasional laugh with someone, I'm less suspicious of them and am also willing to give them a listen. OTH, someone that is always somber and rarely given to a smile are quite the opposite - they worry me at the deepest level.
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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/22/2009 9:42:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eutychus

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As to Reformers being more depressed than the non-Reformed? Bah! Humbug!

My earliest impression, when I began to engage them, was that Reformers I met had an excellent sense of humor. If I can have at an occasional laugh with someone, I'm less suspicious of them and am also willing to give them a listen. OTH, someone that is always somber and rarely given to a smile are quite the opposite - they worry me at the deepest level.


I totally agree with both of you!

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/22/2009 9:42:54 AM   
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A reformer - well, actually anyone I suppose - takes the bad, the crisises, the ugly and looks for biblical ways to glorify God in the process of dealing with it.

It's not easy...but our God is jealous and whatever it takes to keep our focus on Him...well, that's what it takes regarldess of our personal comfort, etc.

God is the only in control...I take great comfort in knowing that.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/22/2009 9:45:34 AM   
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A.W. Pink (at least I think it was him) became sinfully obsessed about total depravity and was what I would consider depressed. From what I can remember, he became a recluse or something like that.

IMO...he had forgotten that God is God and he is not. And that it's okay NOT to be in control.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/22/2009 10:29:01 AM   
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Let's say that many things in a person's life have been difficult over the last 10 years or so. It seems like especially in the last 5, every day is a new unexpected crisis. It's nothing life-threatening, but there's hardly a break, either. Being Reformed, this person doesn't believe they deserve better, but also wonders just how much pressure it's gonna take for God to get glory from their life.


ShallBeRebuilt,

Your post made me think of some Biblical examples of people who had one series of unfortunate events after another.

Joseph was sold by his brothers into slavery, falsely accused of sleeping with his boss's wife and subsequently imprisoned, then the cup bearer and the bread maker forgot to put a good word in for him to the Pharoah and he sat in jail seemingly forgotten.

And poor Moses had to face the leader of all of Egypt not just once but numerous times, asking the same thing every time and not getting anywhere, and then he lived out his days in the desert with a bunch of Israelite losers who made his life miserable.

And Daniel was taken into captivity and lived the majority of his life among the Babylonians--a truly Godless people.

What I see they did is look to God knowing that God has His own ways of being glorified, and while we see through clouds God sees all. What I tell myself is to have faith that God will bring glory to Himself through my life even if I can't exactly see how He is doing that. I aim to be faithful in the small things of every day life, and pray with confidence knowing that God numbers and directs my steps as I look neither to the left nor to the right.

Life is sometimes bad, but God is always good! I pray that God will bring you great encouragement (even if it is in the very small still voice of God's assurance).

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/22/2009 12:20:02 PM   
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Wow, I always learn so much from you guys.

A thought just popped into my head; stay away from those false teachers on tv. I found myself watching them from time to time especially Joyce Meyers and started feeling guilty for certain things that I had no business feeling guilty for. I don't know if you are watching them, but in case you are stop. It seems like these teachers think that were suppose to have Heaven right here on Earth and that's just not scriptural.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 9/22/2009 2:31:17 PM   
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Wow, I always learn so much from you guys.

A thought just popped into my head; stay away from those false teachers on tv. I found myself watching them from time to time especially Joyce Meyers and started feeling guilty for certain things that I had no business feeling guilty for. I don't know if you are watching them, but in case you are stop. It seems like these teachers think that were suppose to have Heaven right here on Earth and that's just not scriptural.


Never watch the stuff.

Thanks for all your encouraging words. Especially to Crankius for the biblical examples...it must indeed have seemed to those mentioned while they were in the midst of their struggles that there must be something wrong with them or that God delighted in harming them.

Some of this was easier when I believed that there was a demon behind every bad thing that happened, and that if I only had enough faith I could make it go away...lol!

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 10/5/2009 3:08:12 AM   
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Hello.

So what do you all chat about in this thread, anyway?

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 10/5/2009 9:21:38 PM   
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Have you guys talked previously about the "church" and Israel" or can we discuss this?

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 10/5/2009 9:58:50 PM   
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wow when you want to CHAT do don't mess around!



I would be happy to discuss the subject but i dont know how long it would be OK here!

Beings you brought it up what say you?

Mods if this is a NONO just say so....

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 10/5/2009 10:09:17 PM   
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MAybe it's not and I misunderstood the thread title? I thought this was a safe place to discuss reformed stuff without those who don't agree popping in. If not then point to where it's been discussed and I can go in and read. It's just very interesting to me because being raised AG(Armin with some Dispensational stuff thrown) I'm facisnated by certain thoughts on this. I believe it Covenant theology.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 10/5/2009 10:49:35 PM   
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I was raised AoG also!

You are about the age of my kids.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 10/6/2009 1:00:55 PM   
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your description of this thread is mostly right...just add this is more of we are "standing in agreement" through a light hearted filter.

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 10/6/2009 1:38:26 PM   
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I just find some of the teaching were getting from our pastor so eye opening and making much more sense than previous views. Not sure what I want to discuss. I night thumb through here since it's so long and see what I can pick up..

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 10/6/2009 1:48:54 PM   
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or...

just ask away

or maybe you can "talk out" something you're wrestling with and we can have a big ole group hug!

huh...frozen chosen indeed

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RE: Reformed Theology Chat Thread - 10/6/2009 2:00:25 PM   
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Israel - Church

How many times in scripture is the 'birthright' given to the younger?

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