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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 9/5/2007 12:26:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mikeman2

Yes, something very odd happened to me the other day. I was sitting at home alone watching TV when suddenly I turned the channel and Baam!! A cold chill went down my spine. I reached for some water to drink and rubbed my eyes but it still stayed the same. Sure enough, my eyes were not deceiving me!! Michigan was loosing to a 1AA team!! Appy State had beaten them at home!!
Every Spartan's fondest dream!!!

That just proves that there is a God and that the UofM is too close to Hell (Hell, MI that is).

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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 9/5/2007 12:30:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: birdseye

Since I was a kid, i have experienced strange phenomena. i have see "people" watching me, almost as if standing guard. i had a very traumatic childhood. i don't for one minute believe that these were demons.

Psalm 91:11 (ESV) For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways.

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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 9/5/2007 9:29:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mikeman2

I don't mean to sound as though I am poking fun at you all. I just thought some humor would be welcomed.....that is, as long as you are not a Wolverine fan.

Having said that, I have not personally experienced such paranormal activity, however, I believe it exists just the same. From what I can ascertain, such activity needs human permission to exist. For example, as Christians we need to give God permission to work in our lives via faith. In fact, withouth faith his hands are tied in many respects in terms of intervening in our lives. I think it is the same for the other side. Humans need to give the demonic realm the go ahead sign in order to work in our lives as well. This is why I think paranormal activity occurs in places where tragic events have occured such as a war or suicide etc., etc. Also, places where the occult is practices seems to have increased activity. In all of these examples, people have conjured up such activity via their own free will. For example, I hear that one of the most haunted places on earth is Gettysburg. I think it is because it is the sight of one of the bloodiest battles ever fought in US history.


While true that I believe demons have to be given human permission, the results are that not of your own. That is your neighbor could be into the Occult and you could have strange occurrences in your area.

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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 9/5/2007 9:32:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Remnant115

Demons are real and have real effects on the physical world, but as always they are subject to Christ's name.

Americans have become almost blind to the spirit world, but people who live in Africa and other similar places know how very real it is.

I have heard of beds being moved, fortunes told, and green mists- all related to demons. I myself have felt their presence at times. I can tell how many are in the room, and it is frightening.

Friends of mine have had experiences with demons and the only advice I can give is to trust Jesus. Invoke His name now as you have never done before. He has the will and power to protect you, you do not. Love casts out all fear. What do Satan and his minions breeed on more than fear? So love God and trust Him. He is our Father and he will protect us.


Nothing to add here except to say that I completely agree that most American's, even Christian's seem to be blind to the Spiritual world.

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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 9/6/2007 8:18:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: birdseye

Since I was a kid, i have experienced strange phenomena. i have see "people" watching me, almost as if standing guard. i had a very traumatic childhood. i don't for one minute believe that these were demons. I do believe that we can feel evil presences. i also believe that when we feel that, those feelings are from God, as a warning. Demons are manifestations of our own fears. if we allow them, they will show up. if we allow God's presence, Guess what? He will show up too. Often times, we as Christians use demons as an excuse-something to blame life's events on rather than looking at how we contributed to the situation. Someone referenced the scripture of the 70. The boat is being missed and twisted. JC did not give authority to us-He gave it to them to fulfill His purpose at that time. We walk a fine line deciding that He has given us His powers. Why would He do that? He died on the cross for us-we haven't made that sacrifice. It's arrogant to believe that He would give us those powers. Our job is to live and glorify Him-not demon busting. we simply are not that powerful. Christ is in me and that is all the power I need.
He showed me that one night when I was traumatized by fear. I was a little girl. I prayed and literally felt His huge hand slide underneath me, cradling me. The fear was gone. No need to search for power elsewhere. He's proved it time and time again.

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I can relate somewhat. It is almost as if I have a gaurdian angel at times. It is nothing I can put my finger on specifically, rather, it just seems that I have someone watching over me. Lets just say I percieve this through my intuition. Perhaps it is God himself? I don't know if the Bible teaches that we have gaurdian angels. Does anyone know?

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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 9/6/2007 8:48:15 AM   
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i can't find specific scriptures regarding angels being sent as our protectors, although i know that elsewhere in the bible it speaks of angels being present. to say that means that we are protected as well- i don't have the answer to that. i do believe that the stories show what God can do.

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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 9/6/2007 11:53:56 AM   
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I must say I appreciate reading all of your posts on this subject. Even though I agree to take heed on "entertaining" this subject, I guess it's a good thing you all at least discuss this and share your experiences in here which also helps with faith and the power of Jesus as well. The reason I say that, vis-à-vis the way you guys have handled all of this, look at what is discussed everywhere else. The insanely popular tripe harry potter almost like some sort of theology. Spritism in kids cartoons. Larry King live's hour long dissertation about UFO's on CNN. Specials on TV where everybody and their brother is a prophet or whatever.
It would be great if there could be some fair and balanced perspective (one of you guys like a forum moderator) could get on that radio show Coast to Coast: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/afterdark/index.html
That George Noory guy indulges this and other similar subjects all the time. However, the way the Bible relates to it is mentioned rarely, if at all.
Or occasionally, Bible prophecy is used as some sort of side-kick to their prophecy or outlook. I know John Ankerberg wanted to confront NBC about their episode ( I wish I would have seen that broadcast ), and he could handle that Coast to Coast show. But if you guys listened to it you could put the Christian perspective out there as well; "the spin stops here"....as it were. Just a thought.

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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 11/14/2007 7:08:38 AM   
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Kenny Metcalf: I was in Phoenix Arizona since last Thursday night till today.

My good friend Kathy, flew my wife Evie and I to Phoenix thursday for our 27th wedding anniversary. She put us up at a Golf resort, and spoiled us every day we were there, including a suprise night, which included front row seats for the Doobie Brothers. It was a great show.

The room we stayed in was incredible. Large bedroom, Large living room and kitchen, and separate bathroom attached to a giant inroom jaccuzzi tub. The grounds had an incredible pool with full food bar etc. Weight room, and golf course (being re-seeded, but walkable).

Well, I guess with all good things there is always something to challenge a perfect weekend, and in our case... the room was haunted.

no kidding haunted.

We didn't see anything, or have anything move, but we were bombarded each night from 1 a.m. till 4:30 a.m. with very loud door slams, wall creaks, and movement that could be heard moving from room to room to room.

The first few nights, I didn't give it much though, especially being woken up from a sound sleep abruptly, and then the radical noises, I brushed off to ground movement, or high winds, but it was not so, and as I figured it out (by Monday morning (Early Monday A.M. was very disturbing), I realized something was not right.

I told the people at the front desk what had been happening, and their response was.. "this golf resort was build on an old indian burial site... would you,like our resident exorcist to come to you room, or would you like another room in a different building (they were only joking about the resident exocist).

I thought about it and decided to stay in it for the last night. I tried to wait up, but fell asleep. No sweat.. by 12:30 this very strong presence of FEAR showed up with a loud rack on the side of the wall. This was not on the side of the Condo where other condos were attached, and we were on the second floor, and the noise was from the wall near the top inside by my bedroom.

I hit the light switch and decided enough was enough. I left the bedroom and walked into the dark living room and then down the hall towards the front door.

I proclaimed..
"You are not welcome here in Jesus Name. I proceeded to quote scriptures as well. I could feel that presence, and continued to praise God for his goodness, and proclaim that Jesus lives inside of me, and nothing can harm Christ, and that He gives his Angels charge over me, and the battle is the Lords (not mine) etc.

I was created for such a time as this and refused to live in fear, especially when the scriptures state we are not to live in fear of anything but God himself (the one who can destroy the body and the soul).

So I sat down in the living room after making it known, that spirit was not allowed to be in that condo with Evie and I. I then started looking up every refference on Peace and reading them out loud. I read for 2 hours, and after 3 a.m. I decided I had done enough reading and talking to my Father and decided to go back to sleep.

As I set my sights on the bedroom where Evie was sleeping soundly, the wall nearest her made a sound (from the outside of the wall) of 4 abrupt knocks which woke her up, and then it quickly went to my side of the room (from outside) amd bashed the wall there.

After that I stated.. you sure are obnoxious.. I laughed and smiled at Evie, and fell asleep until 5:30 when I was woken up again and I believe it was as that whatever it was, was leaving, but leaving from outside the condo.

I slept till about 8:30 and got up. Told the front desk of my nights adventure, and I have left out a few more radical slams in this story etc. that had happened last night.

God is all we are to fear, and when a spirit of fear comes, we can only run to God, and his word, and find comfort in the word, and just as I praised my Father, because the word states, He inhabits the praises of his people, and He inhabited my praises and I was filled with his peace.

It was a very long night.

It's good to be home.

Kenny


I took the liberty of adding Kenny's account from this thread:

http://forums.crosswalk.com/m_2805462/mpage_1/tm.htm

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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 11/14/2007 10:54:43 PM   
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I'm a christian who has been interested in the paranormal/ghosts all my life. My mother doesn't like me to be interested in that stuff because she thinks I am letting the devil into my life. She believes that when you die, you go to either heaven or hell. Nothing in-between. While I mostly agree with that...I just know in my heart that there are good spirits on earth for whatever reason. I know that demons can trick you into thinking they are good...but besides the true evil spirits, I believe there are good ones.

I can't tell you why they are hanging around earth. Maybe to learn a lesson or to teach someone a lesson. I do go "ghost hunting". Pretty much, I record with a voice recorder and have gotten some "EVP's". I take pictures of the places I investigate. But I'm not asking to get in contact with evil spirits...all I ask , is if there is a ghost, then to please say something or w/e. Because when you get a voice back on your tape, it is pretty darn cool.

My mother doesn't like me to be into this stuff. She thinks all ghosts are bad and so I am wrong for having interest in the paranormal field. What I am asking is : to those that know.....what does the bible and christianity teach about ghosts? Are they really all evil? Do all spirits either go to heaven or hell, or is there an un-known reason why some hang around earth? I am too interested in this field to just quit. I never try getting involved with evil. I believe that with god in my life...then no harm will come to me. But am I dissing god and my faith for "ghost hunting"? Thanx to anyone who reads and responds. Your advice is greatly appreciated.
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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 11/15/2007 12:24:08 AM   
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My dad's family had some strange experiences, but I haven't had any myself.

It started when they bought a house in TX, really cheap.
They had to clean out a bit first though. There was a lot of trash left behind, which included pentagram sketches and photos of the past owners having sex with animals.
The first week there, my stepmom had my little sister asleep in her lap, and were the only ones in the house. They wrre in the living room, and she heard someone ruffling through the bags in the other room. She assumed someone came in the back, so didn't make any noise so no one would know she was there. Eventually it stopped, and my dad came home later.
Nothing happened for a while. But after some time, things started happening.
A bowl of bones was left on the counter one night, and was on the floor the next morning, chewed up. They figured an animal got in somewhere.
My dad and sister were alone in the house. My sister doing the dishes, my dad standing near the Living room. Something touched the back of his pants, feeling like a hand. He turned to ask my sister what she was doing, but she was across the room.
One night my brother was upstairs in his room (attic converted to a room), and came flying down the stairs because some large black thing was crawling around on his floor. They never saw it leave, and couldn't find any other way in, but figured some animal got in and left.
My sisters got the room after that.
My sister said something had indented her bed, like something sat on it, but blew it off as nothing.
My younger sister was upstairs playing, my stepmom was in the kitchen. No one else was in the house. My stepmom heard the lightswitch flip on and off repeatedly really fast, and walked over to the stairs to tell my sister to stop playing with the light. My sister ran down the stairs at the same time and told her to stop turning the light on and off on her. (they heard the switch flip, not just a flickering light)
My little brother woke up one night to some large black dog in his room, and an old man standing in the doorway "making faces" at him. He hid under the blanket and they went away.

My dad finally decided to research the house. It seems some old guy with a dog died in the bathroom of a heart attack. They noticed that this all started happening the most after they pulled up the floor in there to remodel it.
They set out a taperecorder and left the house for a while. When they came back, they listened and didn't hear anything. But, then they turned it all the way up, and heard very long, repeated moans.

They sold the house pretty cheap.

The house across the street had problems too. An electrician walked out and refused to get his toolbox. He wojuldn't talk about it, just said "there's something wrong with that house" and sent someone in for it.

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I use to get frightened of the demonic realm until God taught me not to be during a several month period a few years ago. When the traiining time was over I was no longer frightened by any of it and the Holy Spirit told me that was His intent.

For several months I'd have large noises happen in my home when I was alone, and a few other things. Like sitting next to a closet door that was banged very loudly from the inside. No one was there. I was terrified and prayed very loud and long. It happened several more times over a couple months and each time I would pray against it and my courage began to grow.

The final time was when a loud thump happened on my floor one morning. i was very tired and not wanting to bother with it (a big change from being frightened). I simply said, "I'm too tired to bother with you today. In Jesus' name, go away!" And then I started to laugh as I felt tremendous peace and, as if in a fit of anger like a child having a tantrum, the demon shook my dresser drawers and then left. Never again to bother me and I have not been afraid of them ever since.

Jesus used that time to train me and show me that I need not have any fear of the enemy and his cohorts.

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RE: The Paranormal, Ghosts and Demons - 11/15/2007 1:51:37 AM   
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No, demons cannot read our thoughts


How can anyone know for sure?
I don't take a stand either way. I know if you ask God in your mind, he can do it, it doesn't mean the evil read your mind and fled.
But,
Thoughts are in the spiritual realm, and so are the evil spirits. Wouldn't some kind of interaction be implied?

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