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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/6/2009 9:27:30 PM   
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/9/2009 5:52:34 PM   
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No offense taken, Kim! I know what I am trying to do may not be possible at all. So far, Harriette seems to prefer the breast so strongly to the bottle that she doesn't take much formula ... I am flattered and give her credit for not falling for the syrupy lure of formula BUT my nips are getting really sore ... almost to the point I was with Ava (open bleeding sores). I am holding on the best I can considering. My supply seems to be holding steady. If she releases too soon, I shoot brastmilk around like a firehose.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/9/2009 10:46:20 PM   
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BUT my nips are getting really sore ... almost to the point I was with Ava (open bleeding sores)

are you using lanolin? If not, you need to..every time you nurse, put some on. Also make sure her latch is good on the whole part of the breast, not just the tip of the n*pple. It takes some getting used to for the pain, but the white and cracked and bleeding part is not normal. LANOLIN LANOLIN LANOLIN...it is your friend!!!!!

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If she releases too soon, I shoot brastmilk around like a firehose.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/10/2009 7:31:18 AM   
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You know, I was a regular Lanolin junky with my first two but it didn't do a thing except turn my girls off with its greasiness and (??) flavor. With Ava, I was desperate, and got some of those soothies things but even they did nothing ... the open sores were from trying to nurse her. But her latch wasn't very good ... H is a great latcher but yow! it doesn't feel good. I'm sure if she had a weak latch I would be bleeding this time, too.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/10/2009 10:56:53 AM   
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Lisa...put it on AFTER feeding the baby, then wipe it off if you have to before you nurse next time.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/10/2009 11:04:31 AM   
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Nothing I tried prevented my nipples getting cracked, sore and white - so sore that when my ds clamped on I'd cry out in pain, and weep as I was feeding him.

It was such a relief to be able to give him a bottle and have a break.

I really only started enjoying my ds once I'd switched over completely.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/11/2009 3:05:43 PM   
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Nothing I tried prevented my nipples getting cracked, sore and white - so sore that when my ds clamped on I'd cry out in pain, and weep as I was feeding him.

It was such a relief to be able to give him a bottle and have a break.

I really only started enjoying my ds once I'd switched over completely.

He must have had a super strong latch..some babies do....

I am glad that you found the best way for you to bond with him and enjoy him! (plus if he every gives you any real grief...you can always pull out the....."do you know what I went through for you......."...LOL)

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/11/2009 3:44:39 PM   
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Yes! And NO boy wants to hear anything about his mother's "cracked, white and bleeding nipples". I think it would just take a single hearing to snap him back into shape!

WOF, Ava did not have a particularly good latch and she was the cause of my worst nipple woes!

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/12/2009 7:51:22 PM   
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Yes! And NO boy wants to hear anything about his mother's "cracked, white and bleeding nipples". I think it would just take a single hearing to snap him back into shape!

WOF, Ava did not have a particularly good latch and she was the cause of my worst nipple woes!

Latching...whether super strong or poor...tends to be one of the top causes of nursing woes....and the nipple pain (which as you know can be excruciating)can make one want/need to give up nursing if the problem can't be alleviated (and sometimes it cannot).

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/17/2009 1:01:18 PM   
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We're still holding steady with our nursing and formula. H is beginning to fill out a bit which is so rewarding to see! She still prefers the breast and my milk supply seems stable. The formula side of things is not going particularly well, though. She just doesn't like it and could anyone really blame her?? The smell of it is horrible!

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/17/2009 6:20:58 PM   
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Hazel, sorry I can't remember if you've mentioned this already - have you thought of pumping or expressing, perhaps just enough to mix with the formula to help her get used to it.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/18/2009 3:03:29 PM   
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Hazel, sorry I can't remember if you've mentioned this already - have you thought of pumping or expressing, perhaps just enough to mix with the formula to help her get used to it.


Manda, after I had Claire, followed shortly by a stroke, I went through a lot to try to keep my milk supply up in spite of being away from her a lot (first in the ICU, then in rehab). My primary strategy involved lots and lots of pumping. In the beginning when I was paralyzed, my mom and various nurses would have to hold those cup things to my breasts for me to pump. It was horrible and it took FOREVER with scant results. I just got so fed up with it that one day I quit and decided no. more. pumping!

So, to add to my list of things I am not willing to do (grit my teeth while holes are gummed into my nipples), is pumping. My sister pumped tons and had wonderful results. She produced so much that way that she gave away her milk by the bagful to a friend who couldn't breast feed. So I know it can work, just not for me!

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/18/2009 5:43:46 PM   
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I understand the feeling of HATING the pump. I was so sick of that thing by the time we got out of the NICU...grrr..

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/18/2009 5:46:38 PM   
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Manda, after I had Claire, followed shortly by a stroke, I went through a lot to try to keep my milk supply up in spite of being away from her a lot (first in the ICU, then in rehab). My primary strategy involved lots and lots of pumping. In the beginning when I was paralyzed, my mom and various nurses would have to hold those cup things to my breasts for me to pump. It was horrible and it took FOREVER with scant results. I just got so fed up with it that one day I quit and decided no. more. pumping!

So, to add to my list of things I am not willing to do (grit my teeth while holes are gummed into my nipples), is pumping. My sister pumped tons and had wonderful results. She produced so much that way that she gave away her milk by the bagful to a friend who couldn't breast feed. So I know it can work, just not for me!




I guess it all comes down to which is the bigger problem for you: your hating pumping or yr dd not wanting to take the formula. I was imagining pumping a little just for a while to mix with the formula, and then gradually changing over to all formula.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/18/2009 6:08:25 PM   
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We had a weight check today and she is gaining like crazy ... almost two pounds in two weeks! Whatever formula she is getting is apparently enough!

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 8/18/2009 6:14:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hazel2

We had a weight check today and she is gaining like crazy ... almost two pounds in two weeks! Whatever formula she is getting is apparently enough!


Or your breastmilk is sufficient

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 10/2/2009 10:12:48 AM   
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Hazel2,

Are you still around at all? Just wondered how you were getting on.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 10/2/2009 9:30:03 PM   
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I'm giving serious consideration to weaning Beth after her 9 month checkup or after the New York trip, maybe sooner. There's a limit to how much food I'm willing to give up on the hope that it will help her sleep better, and she is kind of addicted to nursing as a way of going off to sleep.

Maybe I'm just selfish, but I've made radical changes to my diet, only to find that there's even more foods I can't have. She's sleeping terribly, and I feel guilty going over my freakin' food diary, looking at what I might've eaten to upset her.

I've been either nursing and/or pregnant since June 2006, and I'd like to have my body back. I'd like to have a bowl of ice cream and a glass of wine. I don't know. I'm going to talk to her doc at the 9 month checkup. She's an experienced mom.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 10/2/2009 9:34:05 PM   
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Ruth...I would suggest you have her tested for allergies to whatever kind of formula you choose, otherwise you may get worse problems then you have now

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 10/2/2009 9:40:11 PM   
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I'm giving serious consideration to weaning Beth after her 9 month checkup or after the New York trip, maybe sooner. There's a limit to how much food I'm willing to give up on the hope that it will help her sleep better, and she is kind of addicted to nursing as a way of going off to sleep.

Maybe I'm just selfish, but I've made radical changes to my diet, only to find that there's even more foods I can't have. She's sleeping terribly, and I feel guilty going over my freakin' food diary, looking at what I might've eaten to upset her.

I've been either nursing and/or pregnant since June 2006, and I'd like to have my body back. I'd like to have a bowl of ice cream and a glass of wine. I don't know. I'm going to talk to her doc at the 9 month checkup. She's an experienced mom.


((((Hugs))))

I'm all for a mom doing what is best for her family. Just make sure that it's really what you want to do before you do it. Sarah's right about checking for allergies with the formula.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 10/2/2009 9:44:52 PM   
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I've been either nursing and/or pregnant since June 2006, and I'd like to have my body back.

I totally get that...last time I wasn't regnant or nursing was January 2004. I would wean Justice, but with Paul not being here I just don't want more trouble and headaches. So I am continuing but giving him more cups to drink or snacks sometimes during the day...gives me a little break at least.

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 10/2/2009 9:52:31 PM   
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I realize that my emotions might be getting the better of me right now. But this is the safe thread to vent in, right?

I've talked with other milk-allergy nursing moms who all went to 9 months, so maybe that's why it's the magic number stuck in my head. My husband does not feel as though there is sufficient evidence to prove that it is gassiness causing all of the sleep troubles, or specifically that it is breastfeeding causing all of the sleep troubles. He offered up the possibility of trying to nighttime wean only, basically trying to do more sleep training.

He may have a point. October (flu season) seems like a poor time to parent-led wean. Maybe I'm trying to place to much of the blame on breastfeeding. I hate feeling blind.

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When breast WASN'T best - 10/2/2009 9:55:06 PM   
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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 10/2/2009 10:03:00 PM   
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Well, as someone that had to flat out wean overnight one of mine (Jake), I will tell you, maybe it would be best to take it a section of the day at a time. It was very VERY hard to go through that...but necessary. (I was pregnant and he was getting sick because of my body trying to get rid of everything from his toxemic pregnancy so that it didn't affect that pregnancy. So my body was pushing the left over toxins out my milk and making him sick. When I stopped nursing, it's a good thing Paul was home for a few weeks (foot surgery), because Jake would start screaming at the top of his lungs if I so much as came in the same room he was in. It was horrible).

How much of a lead is your hubby willing to take on the night weaning?

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RE: When breast WASN'T best - 10/2/2009 10:04:18 PM   
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My husband does not feel as though there is sufficient evidence to prove that it is gassiness causing all of the sleep troubles, or specifically that it is breastfeeding causing all of the sleep troubles.

If he doesn't think those could be linked, then what does he think it is related to?

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