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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/1/2009 2:49:09 PM   
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Christine, I am glad you got some answers and I will say a prayer for a quick healing for you.

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Also, I didn't notice that my friend (whose post has since disappeared) diagnosed Christine with a rupture -- she just mentioned a rupture was a possibility. And then that was discounted with this statement:

"Whilst a rupture of the uterine incision isn't impossible, it's highly unlikely at this stage, especially if your wound is dry. I didn't mention it because you're going to talk to your doctor anyway, and I didn't want to scare you unnecessarily."

Let's please be careful not to write off someone's post just because we deem things "highly unlikely". My friend's story is not mine to share but she did not add her input here because she made up some fairy story -- she has lived a very unusual C-section ordeal and now that I have seen the response to her post here I can pretty much assume she is not going to be back to share anymore.

Please, let's just be careful. I know my friend "didn't want to scare...unnecessarily". Come on now, Manda.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/1/2009 3:05:59 PM   
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I wasn't discounting it at all. I hope my post didn't seem that way. Just saying I wasn't thinking that serious.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/1/2009 3:14:36 PM   
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OK. talked to the technician.

As long as there is no discharge, the pain is just a healing pain. If it gets worse or I notice discharge, I am to call back.



I'm surprised they didn't suggest doing a urine test, to discount the possibility of a UTI. Did they say you are to call back if it hasn't got better within a certain time period?

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/1/2009 5:31:39 PM   
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OK. talked to the technician.

As long as there is no discharge, the pain is just a healing pain. If it gets worse or I notice discharge, I am to call back.



I'm surprised they didn't suggest doing a urine test, to discount the possibility of a UTI. Did they say you are to call back if it hasn't got better within a certain time period?


No. She said it sounded very familiar and like it was just healing. It's gotten better too.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/1/2009 5:48:12 PM   
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No. She said it sounded very familiar and like it was just healing. It's gotten better too.



Oh that's good!! I'm pleased for you!

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/1/2009 5:54:11 PM   
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Jeanie

I'm sorry your friend was offended. I'm surprised and disappointed that she's deleted her post, without us being able to talk about it. I had no idea she had issues about posting here.

I was just concerned about uterine rupture being mentioned (which implies complete uterine rupture), as that is a catastrophic occurrence that requires emergency surgery. Also, (complete) uterine rupture, if it is going to happen at all, most often happens in labour, or, more rarely, during the third trimester, in a woman who has had a previous C-section. It can happen in an unscarred uterus during obstructed labour too, but that is also rather rare. Incomplete (or occult) rupture can happen post-partum, but that's from the outside in not the inside out, ie involving a rupture of the actual surface wound/scar, and there would be evidence on the outside, eg the wound leaking. And it doesn't require emergency surgery, since the layers underneath are still soundly stitched (unless the surgeon was incompetent/negligent)
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My friend's story is not mine to share but she did not add her input here because she made up some fairy story -- she has lived a very unusual C-section ordeal and now that I have seen the response to her post here I can pretty much assume she is not going to be back to share anymore.

Well that's a shame. To my knowledge, she and I have never posted to one another before, and I'd have been interested to know about her experience. If she ever feels like posting in the UNNatural Childbirth and Discussion thread she'd be very welcome!

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/1/2009 7:45:14 PM   
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Christine, your posts were and are fine. No worries.

Manda, you can have a dry wound and have a rupture. It does happen. It may be rare but it does happen, and sometimes people do have that rare occurrence and maybe they don't want to share the whole story but they just want to say it IS possible and let it be at that.

I think sometime we just need to leave room for people to share what they know without making it sound like "Oh, well, that's RARE so let's not scare people with mention of it."

Yeah, except RARE THINGS happen to REAL PEOPLE and none of us here on CW are immune to something rare possibly happening to us. And we all need to be able to answers questions in the generic rather than making it personal every time -- sometimes people just need to keep it clinical and not personal. That's all.

Thank goodness that Christine is doing well and the doctor's office sounds unalarmed. That is what we love to hear!

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/1/2009 7:52:41 PM   
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Manda, you can have a dry wound and have a rupture. It does happen.


Do you have a medical link for that? I'd be interested to read about the circumstances under which it could happen. Are you talking about a complete rupture or an incomplete/occult rupture?

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/1/2009 11:45:01 PM   
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Manda,

I don't have anything left to add here. It does happen, perhaps even rarely, and there are stories that are not mine to tell.

If you don't believe me then please just dismiss me altogether on this topic but I am finished talking about it since I have never had a C-section and the only story I am willing to tell here is my own.

Christine, I did call my sister who had the C-section and she wanted me to tell you she did not have the pain you are describing with urination. I know that's yesterday's news by now but I just wanted you to know I had talked to her. She did have pain at the incision site for quite a while when one of her twins came into contact with it.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/2/2009 1:50:23 AM   
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Christine, glad you called and it does sound kinda 'normal' due to what has happened in that area.

To my mind it makes more sense to have more pain since you were in labor for a while.. different from a scheduled C ya know? But it's always good to know what the worst case scenario may be and hear from someone who may have been there and done that.

Dana, I know you deleted your post but I'm sorry you did. I know sometimes we just want to post our experience and not have to defend it or have it nitpicked apart. Thank you for sharing while you could.

I had weird pain during urination but it was from how much pressure I had and how much stretching happened right at the end when the bowling ball head came out.

My mom remembers having weird pain after C section that made her wonder if the stitches were done right.. she can't really describe it as pain though, just this weird sensation. She attributes it now to scar tissue and nerve damage from the 'old' way they did sections 19 years ago.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/2/2009 8:39:07 AM   
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I don't have anything left to add here. It does happen, perhaps even rarely, and there are stories that are not mine to tell.

If you don't believe me then please just dismiss me altogether on this topic but I am finished talking about it since I have never had a C-section and the only story I am willing to tell here is my own.


I didn't say that I didn't believe you - I was asking for a link (preferably a medical one) so that I could read up about it. I've googled it in various forms on and off for the last two days, trying to find some clinical information about how it can occur, and have not found anything at all.

As I had an emergency Caesarean and then post-natal depression, and, a year later, started a Caesarean Support Group (and still have women who are having, or have had, sections come to me to ask for advice and help) it would be a very helpful resource to have access to medical information on this albeit extremely rare occurrence. And if it's down to surgeon negligence, then that's important to know too, with regards to potential compensation claims.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/2/2009 8:41:57 AM   
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My mom remembers having weird pain after C section that made her wonder if the stitches were done right.. she can't really describe it as pain though, just this weird sensation. She attributes it now to scar tissue and nerve damage from the 'old' way they did sections 19 years ago.



What's the "old way", Brandy? I'm curious!!

When I had mine (nearly 20 years ago), I had stitches on the inside and staples on the outside. I don't think they do staples now in the UK, though I'm not totally sure.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/2/2009 10:43:02 AM   
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in the FWIW category ... i jhad stitches that were covered with steri-strips.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/2/2009 11:50:26 AM   
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in the FWIW category ... i jhad stitches that were covered with steri-strips.




When I had mine, back in the Stone Age , it all depended on which obstetrician you had. The one I had favoured internal stitches and staples on top, and the other one preferred to use internal stitches, plus more stitches on top.

christsstar, did your stitches have to be removed or did they dissolve?

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/2/2009 7:50:27 PM   
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They will dissolve. In fact, now that the steri-strips are removed, the stitches aren't visible. It's like she sewed it in from the inside.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/2/2009 8:04:48 PM   
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They will dissolve. In fact, now that the steri-strips are removed, the stitches aren't visible. It's like she sewed it in from the inside.



Yes, that's what mine looked like once the staples had been taken out. I do remember though that the dissolving stitches included what felt like a tiny knot at each end that used to pinch a little sometimes.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/4/2009 2:08:30 PM   
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Perhaps I'm being paranoid, I don't know. But I'm calling the dr. again. Last night I passed what felt like a GIGANTIC clot, but when I went to see how big it was, it was already broken up in the toilet. Then I filled an overnight pad in 4 hours.

My post-partem instructions say that my bleeding should be slight discharge by 2 weeks. It's still bright red, and my instructions also say it should be brownish red. So ... I'm calling my doctor.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/4/2009 2:17:09 PM   
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The usual warning is if the pad is soaked in half an hour, or every hour for 4 hours, or if the clot is bigger than a golf ball, but it's a good idea to call your doctor anyway, just to be sure.

In the meantime it would be an idea to take things a bit easier, to rest a bit more, with your feet up. Have you been doing any lifting, lots of bending, any vacuuming, any ironing? Being more active than usual?

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/4/2009 2:20:28 PM   
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christstar

The usual warning is if the pad is soaked in half an hour, or if the clot is bigger than a golf ball, but
it's a good idea to call your doctor anyway, just to be sure.

In the meantime it would be an idea to take things a bit easier, to rest a bit more, with your feet up. Have you been doing any lifting, lots of bending, any vacuuming, any ironing? Being more active than usual?


Is that different for a c-section? I know for a normal vaginal birth they say "soaking a heavy pad within 1 hour" is considered a cause for concern.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/4/2009 2:25:36 PM   
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Is that different for a c-section? I know for a normal vaginal birth they say "soaking a heavy pad within 1 hour" is considered a cause for concern.

I think there is some variation from source to source. I've since edited my post to add a bit I missed out that said "every hour for 4 hours" (though if it was me I would be calling the doctor after the second one).

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/4/2009 2:57:47 PM   
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i called anyway. my flow was drastically increased yesterday and i was concerned. Dr said to take the motrin to help the uterus. i didnt want to take anymore pain drugs so that i could use my pain as an indicator of when i need to rest.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/4/2009 3:04:13 PM   
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The bleeding is a big indicator of when to rest too, Christine. Increased bleeding usually means your doing to much and need to slow it down.

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/4/2009 3:23:34 PM   
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Increased bleeding usually means your doing to much and need to slow it down.


Yup, that's why I told her to take it easier too!!

Are you listening, Christ?

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/4/2009 3:25:21 PM   
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Dr said to take the motrin to help the uterus. i didnt want to take anymore pain drugs so that i could use my pain as an indicator of when i need to rest.



Christi,

With respect, you should not be waiting till it hurts before you rest. You should be resting anyway, as a matter of course, BEFORE it starts to hurt.

Maybe you didn't see my question:

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Have you been doing any lifting, lots of bending, any vacuuming, any ironing? Being more active than usual?


How active are you being? What does a typical day involve for you at the moment?

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RE: Post Pardum Talk...(cont'd) - 6/4/2009 4:07:55 PM   
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Dr said to take the motrin to help the uterus. i didnt want to take anymore pain drugs so that i could use my pain as an indicator of when i need to rest.



Christi,

With respect, you should not be waiting till it hurts before you rest. You should be resting anyway, as a matter of course, BEFORE it starts to hurt.

Maybe you didn't see my question:

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Have you been doing any lifting, lots of bending, any vacuuming, any ironing? Being more active than usual?


How active are you being? What does a typical day involve for you at the moment?


Agreed with everything Manda says...did they not give you a list when you were discharged (or at least tell you verbally) the things you need to avoid for the first 3-4 weeks after the baby is born? Heavy lifting, vacuuming, going up and down stairs a bunch are all no-nos even after a vaginal delivery, so I'm pretty sure after abdominal surgery they're off limits too.

This is coming from someone who likes things neat and tidy...EVERYTHING that gets messy or cluttered can be cleaned and tidied at a later date. There is no medal for having a spic and span house (or even vacuumed floors) during your recovery time. Honestly, just rest, enjoy your daughter and get your naps.

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