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So Mike is not promoting the overcoming Manifest Sons, just that the church will become Moses and Elijah releasing judgments. Being defeated and killed and having patience and endurance in the situation stand in contrast to "releasing the prophesied judgments".

Part one of your response, you are correct in that Mike is not promoting the "Manifest Sons of God" doctrine, and the point is not Moses and Elijah, but that the church will be operating in a similar role to them. With the outpouring of the Spirit in Joel 2:26-32, the church is going to be carrying more wisdom and revelation than they have had in any of the previous centuries. So yes, it is not unfeasible that the church is going to be the "Friend of God" just like Moses. Once again, not a problem.

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Seems to me some angels sound their trumpets to release the judgments in Revelation chapters 8 and 9.

Following the fifth seal and the angel taking fire from the altar and throwing it to the earth, yes. In the fifth seal, the souls of the martyrs are under the altar (upon which the prayers of the church are offered) and crying out for justice and vengeance. Between the seventh seal and the first trumpet, an angel takes fire from this altar (which is burning the prayers of the saints), and throws it to the earth. This cry and that fire are why the rest of the judgments come It is right in the book of Revelation that prayer is intimately connected with the release of the trumpets.

So, what is your objection now?

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Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne. The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel's hand. Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake.(NIV)