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RE: Mormonism? - 2/25/2008 9:02:39 PM
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crankius
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You posters have got to start understanding where other people are coming from.
You will find that most of the posters on here have a very sound understanding of where other people are coming from. You won't like what is said about mormonism in this thread, but that doesn't mean a lack of understanding on our part.
Some mormons claim to be Christians because they do not believe they are any different from scriptural Christianity. Some mormons see the differences between scriptural Christianity and mormonism, and yet still claim to be Christian.
Mormonism denies the true Christ of scripture, and therefore cannot claim to be Christian.
And at any rate, by believing that they do what they can through works, and Christ makes up the difference for salvation, that in essence is a denial of the atoning work of Christ on the cross. By trying to rely upon their own efforts for salvation--even 10%--they have damned themselves and refused the atonement of Christ.
Romans 4:4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
1 Cor 15:1-4 "Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures."
Mormon theology rejects the Biblical Christ, and therefore they still have God's wrath on them. They have denied the atonement available in Christ.
John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him.
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RE: Mormonism? - 2/25/2008 9:11:28 PM
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Ephesians4_32
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"Not Christian" implys no belief in Christ, which is simply not true of Mormons. You can say our understanding of him is different, but to imply no belief in the Jesus of Nazareth as the Christ and Messiah of the Bible is certainly wrong and uninformed. So you can look at questions one and two and decide, "yup, Mormons aren't christian," but what you should be saying is "yup Mormons don't view the godhead the way I do." And really that is all we want you to say.
The devils also believe, and tremble. Are they Christians?
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RE: Mormonism? - 2/26/2008 3:01:48 PM
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Please answer according to your own belief:
1. Who is Jesus - is He a created being, is He eternally God, does He have brothers and sisters?
2. Who is God - is He a created being, is he eternally God (always was, always will be), was He ever a man? Does He have brothers and sisters? Does He have a mother and a father?
3. Who is the Holy Ghost - is He a corporeal being? Was He created? Does He have brothers and sisters?
4. Is it possible for families to "reassemble" in heaven for all eternity?
5. Is it possible for man to ever become a god (little g) of His own planet?
6. If number 5 is yes, what are the requirements for a man to become a god of his own planet.
I could reply to your questions with yes no answers, and I'm sure you already knew they would look something like this:
1) Yes, no depends on what you mean, Yes, Yes
2) Yes, no depends on what you mean,Yes, Ye, not sure no doctrine on the subject but possible, not sure not sure no doctrine on the subject but possible.
3) no spirit, no doctrine on subject, no doctrine on subject
4) yes
5) yes (I'll address this below)
6) see below
I want to address your original question "Which of my beliefs is against the bible?" and then return to some of the statements you have made below.
Starting with your answers, I wonder what you would say regarding the BIBLICAL stance on these issues?
Question 1:
You say that Jesus is indeed a created being with brothers and sisters. How can we reconcile that with the Biblical account of the beginning we find in John?
John 1:1-5, 14
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
4In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[d] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
For question 2 - is God a created being - he appears to indicate in Exodus that he is not:
Exodus 3:14-15
14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am . This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' "
15 God also said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, 'The LORD, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.' This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation.
He elaborates a little in Deuteronomy 6:4
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
At the very least, it appears from the word of God that He does not consider himself a created being but an eternal force which has always existed and will always exist.
Additionally, He reminds us of who he is in John through the words of Jesus:
John 5:26
26 The Father has life in himself, and he has granted his Son to have life in himself.
John 4:23,24
23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."
With regards to question 3, we are clearly taught in the Bible that the Holy Spirit is a helper who Jesus sent into the world upon his ascension:
Acts 1:1-8
1In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach
2until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen.
3After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the kingdom of God.
4On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.
5For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit."
6So when they met together, they asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?"
7He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.
8But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
Nowhere do we have any indications at anythime that the HolySpirit is corporeal in any form. In fact, of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, the only one that we see with an actual corporeal body from scripture is God the Son (Jesus Christ) who came in flesh to die for our sins.
To your question 4, how does the LDS doctrine of "eternal families" square with the words of Jesus?
Matthew 22:23-33
23That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question.
24"Teacher," they said, "Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and have children for him.
25Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother.
26The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh.
27Finally, the woman died.
28Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?"
29Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
30At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
31But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you,
32'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."
To your answer in question 5 - let's look at what it took to even look at God in his glory:
Exodus 33:19-23
19 And the LORD said, "I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
20 But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."
21 Then the LORD said, "There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock.
22 When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.
23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen."
Where can we square up a God of this magnitude with human "evolution" in any way shape or form?
As I understand from Mormon doctrine, the requirements to become a (g)od revolve around what you do on earth, so I really can't begin to comment on them as the Bible is clear that our works here on earth are like unto filthy rags.
This is far from an exhaustive list of exactly where some of your beliefs might not line up with the Bible. Given time, I would compile a more exhaustive list for you but these may be succinct but acceptable answers for some of your beliefs.
All of that said, I guess my next question to you in line with your comments in this post is-aren't you essentially asking "us posters" to do something that you are not willing to do yourself?
In Mormon doctrine, all of us "evangelicals" have it quite wrong. We do not understand the truth as restored by Jospeh Smith. For that reason, you would attempt to convert me to believe in LDS doctrine if I showed an interest because it is the "truth" according to you.
I would propose to you that your issue is not with the fact that people disagree with you-you disagree with us. Instead, your issue appears to be with the fact that you are often outnumbered in your disagreement. We are doing the exact same thing-disagreeing in principal on evangelical doctrine. I respect that you believe something about God-I just happen to know that you are mistaken. Because of the truth of the Word of God, I am instructed to shun any teaching which does not line up with the truth of God's Word-much the same as you are in your religion. Your attempts at conciliation of all religious thought really runs counter to the entire mission of your church. The difference between the two of us I would suppose is that I am happy to admit that fact.
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ORIGINAL: somemormonguy
You posters have got to start understanding where other people are coming from. I'm in no way saying you have to agree or even like our beliefs. But really all Mormons really want is just for you to say "I don't agree with that, but I get why someone would find that belief to be intriguing (sp? I'm sure of it)." Putting your hands over your ears and screaming cult and just attacking like a bitter old man with no substance to it (pretty much what Jimbo Fletch has been doing the whole time) doesn't do anybody any good. I've enjoyed the conversations I've had here, (particularly with mushead, good points on some of them, nothing that can't be argued though...  ) and I hope to come back when I have more time. On a side note, I learned some stuff about parallels between the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Bible that I'd love to get around to posting about, it'll blow you away!!! So thanks all, God bless (I know He's a little different).
Regards,
somemormonguy
ps, if you want to push the man becoming god point, I'll try back later
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RE: Mormonism? - 2/26/2008 3:13:39 PM
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...Putting your hands over your ears and screaming cult and just attacking like a bitter old man with no substance to it (pretty much what Jimbo Fletch has been doing the whole time)...
You think you won anyone over with that bon mot?
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RE: Mormonism? - 3/1/2008 4:11:45 PM
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Hello! I would like to share this link with you. I think it would be a GREAT help as well as resource about Mormonism from an Ex-Mormon: http://www.watchman.org/ Blessings, A :)
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RE: Mormonism? - 3/6/2008 12:13:35 PM
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JimboFletch
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Hello! I would like to share this link with you. I think it would be a GREAT help as well as resource about Mormonism from an Ex-Mormon: http://www.watchman.org/ Blessings, A :)
Thanks for sharing. There's a useful chart on page 3 of a PDF file on the site:
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RE: Mormonism? - 6/28/2008 6:24:25 PM
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This is in response to the thread entitled, "Are Mormons Christians?" A former Mormon says no. Here's her site and her answer -
http://www.gospelhelp.com/
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RE: Mormonism? - 6/30/2008 12:28:16 AM
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This is in response to the thread entitled, "Are Mormons Christians?" A former Mormon says no. Here's her site and her answer -
http://www.gospelhelp.com/
A current Mormon says.....yes!
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RE: Mormonism? - 6/30/2008 12:17:33 PM
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JimboFletch
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ORIGINAL: harvesthoney
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ORIGINAL: Machaira
This is in response to the thread entitled, "Are Mormons Christians?" A former Mormon says no. Here's her site and her answer -
http://www.gospelhelp.com/
A current Mormon says.....yes!
A current Mormon is wrong. No blood-bought, redeemed joint-heir of God the Son, Jesus, claims a Mormon as a brother or sister believer. They preach "another gospel" and, according to Paul, are acursed.
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RE: Mormonism? - 6/30/2008 1:58:49 PM
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You posters have got to start understanding where other people are coming from.
You will find that most of the posters on here have a very sound understanding of where other people are coming from. You won't like what is said about mormonism in this thread, but that doesn't mean a lack of understanding on our part.
Some mormons claim to be Christians because they do not believe they are any different from scriptural Christianity. Some mormons see the differences between scriptural Christianity and mormonism, and yet still claim to be Christian.
Mormonism denies the true Christ of scripture, and therefore cannot claim to be Christian.
And at any rate, by believing that they do what they can through works, and Christ makes up the difference for salvation, that in essence is a denial of the atoning work of Christ on the cross. By trying to rely upon their own efforts for salvation--even 10%--they have damned themselves and refused the atonement of Christ.
Romans 4:4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
1 Cor 15:1-4 "Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures."
Mormon theology rejects the Biblical Christ, and therefore they still have God's wrath on them. They have denied the atonement available in Christ.
John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him.
Good stuff! BTW, most of the Mormons I know do not like to review Romans with me. Not a fun book for them.
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RE: Mormonism? - 6/30/2008 3:33:43 PM
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Hi Bzirk!
Here is an interesting fact: I believe that harvesthoney, the regular mormon poster in this thread, has done a Romans study with her Christian friends.
Harvesthoney,
In your study of Romans, did you find differences between your mormon theology and biblical theology?
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RE: Mormonism? - 6/30/2008 4:26:26 PM
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Hey mormons!
Do y'all believe in sin? If so, what do you think it is.
I think it is rebellion against God -- that is, it is the dialectical opposite of faith. I say this so you can be more specific in answering me.
Also, do y'all believe in aliens?
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RE: Mormonism? - 6/30/2008 7:01:35 PM
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Hi Bzirk!
Here is an interesting fact: I believe that harvesthoney, the regular mormon poster in this thread, has done a Romans study with her Christian friends.
Harvesthoney,
In your study of Romans, did you find differences between your mormon theology and biblical theology?
Hi Crankius,
Yes and I consider both to be biblical theology....just interpreted differently.
I took the class about 10 years ago. Most things we agreed on, others...so so, and a few things...polar opposite. These are the things that I remember differenciated our beliefs:
1. The Godhead
2. Plan of Salvation
3. Ordinances and Rituals
4. Adam
Because of the TOS, there is no way I or any other LDS can fully discuss these differences here...
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RE: Mormonism? - 6/30/2008 7:11:42 PM
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Hey mormons!
Do y'all believe in sin? If so, what do you think it is.
I think it is rebellion against God -- that is, it is the dialectical opposite of faith. I say this so you can be more specific in answering me.
Yes. It is going against God's word.
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Also, do y'all believe in aliens?
Yes, and I wish we had tighter border control and better enforcement of the laws....They are putting such a strain on our economy and healthcare.
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/1/2008 8:01:43 AM
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Yes and I consider both to be biblical theology....just interpreted differently.
I hear ya on the interpretation thing. I spent a great deal of time several years back in discussion with a Mormon who said that Jesus lied about there being no marriages recognized in heaven. He lied to get out of a tight spot. Imagine, God the Son unable to get out of a tight spot without lying....
That was long enough ago that that Mormon was honest enough to admit that Mormons consider blacks to be spiritually inferior, as evidenced by dark skin. But I understand the official position has shifted (as other things over the years). Funny that, one of the opening lines I often have received by Mormons is, unlike Christians, their scripture and doctrine was given perfectly and without error (though in Elizabethan English when it was no longer in use).
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/1/2008 8:19:00 AM
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Yes and I consider both to be biblical theology....just interpreted differently.
I hear ya on the interpretation thing. I spent a great deal of time several years back in discussion with a Mormon who said that Jesus lied about there being no marriages recognized in heaven. He lied to get out of a tight spot. Imagine, God the Son unable to get out of a tight spot without lying....
That was long enough ago that that Mormon was honest enough to admit that Mormons consider blacks to be spiritually inferior, as evidenced by dark skin. But I understand the official position has shifted (as other things over the years). Funny that, one of the opening lines I often have received by Mormons is, unlike Christians, their scripture and doctrine was given perfectly and without error (though in Elizabethan English when it was no longer in use).
~shrug~
Jesus lying? I know nothing of this...
I don't consider blacks to be spiritually inferior, never have. That was at one time a teaching...not doctrine. The 1978 revelation shed light on that particular teaching/speculation and has been debunked for the past 30 years.
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/1/2008 8:39:13 AM
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Hey mormons!
Do y'all believe in sin? If so, what do you think it is.
I think it is rebellion against God -- that is, it is the dialectical opposite of faith. I say this so you can be more specific in answering me.
harvesthoney:
Yes. It is going against God's word.
harvesthoney,
What would be wrong with going agianst God's word if he is god only relative to our planet? Why not just leave the planet!!
Also, what do I care about being a God on another planet?? That is a boring religion to me. What is the mormon hell like?
Also, though, I am glad that you believe that sin is going against God's word. Though, I am sure that you have a nuanced interpretation of that would disappoint me as well. Oh well. What's so bad about going against God's word? Clearly I am playing "devil's advocate" .
Also, I appreciate a joke, but, seriously, you can see that I am curious as to whether you believe there are beings on other planets.
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/1/2008 8:50:32 AM
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~shrug~
Jesus lying? I know nothing of this...
O come now. Jesus said plainly that there will be no marriages recognized in heaven and there will no new marriages. Yet the Mormon cult offers an eternal marriage ceremony. Either Jesus lied or you folk are selling a lie.
It's a no brainer for us, we know that Jesus never lied.
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I don't consider blacks to be spiritually inferior, never have. That was at one time a teaching...not doctrine. The 1978 revelation shed light on that particular teaching/speculation and has been debunked for the past 30 years.
Revelation... an indication that Smith and his successors didn't have a lock on infallibility? I know, Mormons have come up with word games to skirt the issue, but even ye olde book of Mormon has changed since the original. Fact remains, when society pinches the forward progress of the great Mormon PR machine, Mormonism shifts to accommodate society.
FYI, Smith and Mormonism can be clearly seen in Galatians 1, verse 8:
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/1/2008 9:12:13 AM
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But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!
Good one JF!
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/1/2008 12:22:22 PM
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I am always fascinated by how the intellect handles conflicts of truth and fiction.
A mormon can read the Bible and know that it is in conflict with mormon doctrine. How do they reconcile the conflicts?
-translations
-interpretations
-misunderstandings
-new revelations
-I just "feel" it--burning in the bosom
I think frankly they are faced with hard decisions--either believe the Christ of the Bible, or follow their man-made religion. If they choose to follow the Christ of the Bible, the Creator and Living God, they lose more than their man-made religion. They lose their families, friends, fellowships, etc. It can seem like their whole world is lost!
But thankfully, there are those who are able to rely upon the grace of God to fully carry them through. They choose to believe in the Christ of the Bible and to follow God's statues, forsaking ALL in this world, and God makes them a new creation in Him!
I just wish it wasn't such a difficult process to leave a cult.
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/1/2008 12:30:04 PM
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-I just "feel" it--burning in the bosom
And one of my favorites:
-Go home and pray that God tell you if we're wrong. (or something similar)
It's like praying for God to tell you if it's wrong for you to have an extramarital affair with your friend's spouse. He doesn't have to reveal what He's already clearly stated is wrong - and accursed.
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/1/2008 12:31:05 PM
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crankius
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Good point, Jimbo.
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/2/2008 12:22:39 AM
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harvesthoney,
What would be wrong with going agianst God's word if he is god only relative to our planet? Why not just leave the planet!!
I dunno...
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Also, what do I care about being a God on another planet?? That is a boring religion to me.
Well, if you don't care about being a God on another planet...chances are you won't!
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What is the mormon hell like?
Haven't been there yet...so I couldn't tell you.....OR....sitting on a nonpadded folding chair for an hour and ten minutes during Sacrament meeting.
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Also, though, I am glad that you believe that sin is going against God's word. Though, I am sure that you have a nuanced interpretation of that would disappoint me as well. Oh well. What's so bad about going against God's word? Clearly I am playing "devil's advocate" .
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Also, I appreciate a joke, but, seriously, you can see that I am curious as to whether you believe there are beings on other planets.
Do I believe there are beings on other planets? In our solar system?...no.
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RE: Mormonism? - 7/2/2008 12:56:40 AM
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