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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/24/2008 8:40:19 AM   
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I read that colostrum, the pre-milk, is high in vitamin K. So the vitamin K before the 8th day is unnecessary. And the body naturally begins to produce regular levels of vitamin K before day 8. We will not be getting the vitamin K shot.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/24/2008 9:40:23 AM   
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As for the newborn hearing screening...it can be useful to have it..but I see no real reason why it cannot wait for 8 days. It doesn't insure that your child can hear...just removes or identifies certain congenital factors that may affect their hearing so that you can make choices concerning your child's training/care as they grow up if they are hearing disabled.

according to the audiologist that we saw for Jake's test (8 years ago), over 80% of all babies fail the first hearing test...so don't freak out if that happens...it really doesn't mean they are deaf.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/24/2008 9:50:32 AM   
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All of my boys failed the newborn hearing screen ... they were all somewhat congested at birth, so that caused a fail on the test -- which meant it had to be repeated. I'd suggest waiting a minimum of two weeks (better at a month old, actually) than to do it right after birth.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/24/2008 10:39:29 AM   
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As for the newborn hearing screening...it can be useful to have it..but I see no real reason why it cannot wait for 8 days. It doesn't insure that your child can hear...just removes or identifies certain congenital factors that may affect their hearing so that you can make choices concerning your child's training/care as they grow up if they are hearing disabled.

according to the audiologist that we saw for Jake's test (8 years ago), over 80% of all babies fail the first hearing test...so don't freak out if that happens...it really doesn't mean they are deaf.

which is why I said it can be useful to make choices IF they are hearing disabled...and just as failing it doesn't mean they ARE deaf...passing it does NOT mean they can hear either. It just helps to identify potential problems so that they can be more aware of following those areas.....most kids do just fine.

Thing is....it is useful...like knowing their blood type is useful...but not critical.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/24/2008 10:46:16 AM   
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Thing is....it is useful...like knowing their blood type is useful...but not critical.

lol..yeah
(although for us it is critical...well, for me more then the baby....cause hubby and I have opposite blood types...he is O+ and I am O-...so if the baby doesn't match my blood type then I have to have a shot after they are born)


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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/24/2008 10:58:16 AM   
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Thing is....it is useful...like knowing their blood type is useful...but not critical.

lol..yeah
(although for us it is critical...well, for me more then the baby....cause hubby and I have opposite blood types...he is O+ and I am O-...so if the baby doesn't match my blood type then I have to have a shot after they are born)


lol...true that is for you and future babies...lol...but for the care of the infant, in general, it's not important because if there is an emergency that requires blood donation....they check the patient's blood type as well as give universal donor blood until the typing results are back.....but yes...if you know that you and hubby have Rh incompatibility...it is critical for mom and sometimes baby for that to be known (but particularly for future babies).

Basically all that simply to state that except for the PKU...none of these (newborn hearing test/vitamin k) are necessary on a routine basis..and the PKU gets a better result if you wait until your milk has come in...that way you can know if baby has any metabolic disorders, etc that are CRITICAL to the development ofyour child.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/24/2008 11:05:09 AM   
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Basically all that simply to state that except for the PKU...none of these (newborn hearing test/vitamin k) are necessary on a routine basis..and the PKU gets a better result if you wait until your milk has come in...that way you can know if baby has any metabolic disorders, etc that are CRITICAL to the development ofyour child.
yup!!

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/27/2008 8:35:23 AM   
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So it's 'out' in the church, by this time, I'm sure. We had a potluck on sunday and a lady who I don't know really well was sitting next to us and asked where I was delievering. I didn't know what to say, as homebirthing still has a bad rep. I told her we had a midwife and hoped that would satisfy her. She figured it out. "oh, at home!" Well the lady beside me picked up on that, "Oh at home!" Like its a shock. Well, I'm sure it is. People just don't give birth to their babies at home. It's just not done! I was really hoping to avoid it altogether. But it doesn't look like it. Maybe it's good that people are finding out early, rather than right before I go into labor, that way the questions will be answered, people will stop asking or trying to convince me and I'll be able to just focus on the birth.

The way people think about me does effect me way too much, I know that. But I don't know what to do about that. I just need to let it go and it's something I'm working on. I've read so much about why it's better and so on, but for some people statistics don't cut it. They believe what they believe and aren't going to be persuaded. That's fine, I just don't need people trying to get me to do something different. To scare me. And, no one has, in words, but you can see it in their faces when we talk about it. They are skeptical. Ack! Help! I need words of encouragement.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/27/2008 9:31:12 AM   
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One of the nice things about talking about it, actually, is that you will find other women who have done the same, or who know someone who has homebirthed. It actually IS done, and quite a bit!

As for what people think of you...you will be dealing with that in every area of your life for the rest of your life, so I guess you need to decide ASAP that your DH and your heavenly Father are the only two opinions that really count?

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/27/2008 9:43:46 AM   
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Kathryn- As a pastor's wife, you are in a fish bowl for better or worse. You will need to discern which people have your best interest at heart and which just want to butt in (I know a pk who had a church lady call yelling at her dad, the pastor, because her bedroom light was on at 10:15 on a school night- please!). You are making the best choice for you and your family- you know this. Plus, if I recall, you were worried about somone bursting in on your birth- now that the cat is out of the bag, I bet people will be *really* careful not to come in unless they are *sure* you are telling them to come in

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/27/2008 12:44:54 PM   
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In the small town I used to live in, it's actually "all the rage" to have a homebirth.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/27/2008 2:50:23 PM   
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{{{Kathryn}}}

You are in the "fishbowl". At least people are curious about something you're really dedicated and passionate about. Who knows, you may change a few minds!

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/27/2008 3:20:27 PM   
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Kathryn - I had a pastor who's wife delievered several of their children at home (and this was 10 years ago - and in our area of the country, was not done -period!!!). She had already had I think 2 homebirths before they moved to our town. Then while they were in our town, numbers 8 and 9 were born in the parsonage- along with a couple of miscarriages (one of which was later in the pregnancy). So by the time she got to number 9, people were aware that when her time came, their house was no longer just an open door. While many people looked at them crazy (number of kids, homeschooling and homebirth!!) they also loved them and came to a point where they dealt with it. By the way, number 13 was born about 18 months ago (all their own and no multiple births (though there was a set of twins at one point in time, but she lost one and carried the other to term).

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/27/2008 3:24:17 PM   
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It's so much fun to be the 'weirdo' people in society (large, homeschooling, homebirthing family) ... we have no intention of stopping at 5 if God is willing to grace us with more!!

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 8:17:42 AM   
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It IS fun! I have to be honest...despite the weird looks and dumb remarks, I rather like being a weirdo...LOL

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 10:49:17 AM   
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I know it's something I need to just let go of. I'm working on it. It helps to talk about it on here, though. I've always been weird, I just didn't know I'd be this weird. I mean, we don't eat red meat on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. And we are weird.

It just takes time and I know it's what the Lord wants. And what hubby wants, so it works!

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 4:21:15 PM   
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(((Kathryn))) I hope you can come up with a simple way of responding to people that addresses why you're doing it. I'd try to come up with a line or two about why you've chosen this and keep repeating it and practicing it - that way when someone looks at you funky, you've got a rehearsed answer and you're not caught out of the blue.

Oh - and no matter what, you'll still get the "if I'd had my baby at home, he/she would have died" comments. It's hard ... and those comments are especially difficult to address!

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 6:56:04 PM   
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Oh - and no matter what, you'll still get the "if I'd had my baby at home, he/she would have died" comments. It's hard ... and those comments are especially difficult to address!


Have you noticed that most of the the people who say that wouldn't have had any problems if they would have given birth at home? The reason the baby had problems is usually because of hospital interventions or germs the baby go in the hospital.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 6:59:12 PM   
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Oh - and no matter what, you'll still get the "if I'd had my baby at home, he/she would have died" comments. It's hard ... and those comments are especially difficult to address!


Have you noticed that most of the the people who say that wouldn't have had any problems if they would have given birth at home? The reason the baby had problems is usually because of hospital interventions or germs the baby go in the hospital.

not necessarily. I don't want to start a debate in here, but hospitals have their place for some women.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 7:16:54 PM   
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yes, which is why I said most and usually.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 8:02:02 PM   
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I am not saying that those women have a right to use scare tactics on anyone...they don't for sure, however until you have been there you really don't get it. Three of mine turned out good and no problems and probably could have been safely born at home (or anywhere else)...but not one of mine. It was medical intervention that SAVED his life AND my life...and after going through that experience I am grateful for dr's and hospitals...they have their place in certain situations.

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 8:47:58 PM   
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I agree, Sarah, they have their place in certain situations. However, for most women, low risk women, home birth is safer. Hospitals should be for those who need it and that way, the women who don't leave more time with the OB's for women who do. I never liked feeling like I was bothering my dr. Both home births and hospitals are necessary. I thank God for both. I think that intelligent, informed decisions need to be made for both places. I think it's irresponsible to just assume a hospital or home birth will be safe and not look into the procedures. I believe the phrase here is, informed consent, in either place. KWIM?

I believe God is with us no matter where we birth. I am thankful for that. Imagine all the back of the car births. He had to be in that!

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 10:47:55 PM   
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Have you noticed that most of the the people who say that wouldn't have had any problems if they would have given birth at home? The reason the baby had problems is usually because of hospital interventions or germs the baby go in the hospital.


Some of them, yes - I would think that perhaps it was medical intervention that caused the problems in the first place. But I really don't know their situations, so I can't say for sure. Sometimes, though, they tell their story and I just shake my head and wish that things could have been different for them.

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Three of mine turned out good and no problems and probably could have been safely born at home (or anywhere else)...but not one of mine. It was medical intervention that SAVED his life AND my life...and after going through that experience I am grateful for dr's and hospitals


Definitely - hospitals and OBs are necessary. Thankfully, most problems that happen in labour are gradual and are not true emergencies right off the bat, so a transfer from homebirth to hospital for problems is normally quite calm and the problem can be addressed.

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I believe God is with us no matter where we birth. I am thankful for that.


Agreed! I'm so grateful that God will be with me whether my baby's born here at home or whether I need to go to the hospital!!

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/28/2008 10:58:05 PM   
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Sometimes, though, they tell their story and I just shake my head and wish that things could have been different for them.

I experience that a lot. It is so clear to me how the intervention caused the problems...but all they know to think is 'the doctor saved my baby!'

(PS, I know sometimes they actually do, but most of the time, they don't do anything but control the damage they caused...so don't accuse me of being a doctor-hater or saying they all do bad things to women)

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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/29/2008 7:27:27 AM   
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