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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/21/2008 10:07:42 PM
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CherishedbyGod
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his 'Change' theme is very credible.
Where's the beef? 
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/21/2008 10:37:28 PM
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IMHO, I think Republicans are scared if Obama is the democratic nominee for the bid for president - because he is so articulate; young; his 'Change' theme is very credible. Republicans have to, then, find some way to demonize Obama, and it looks like they have. From cult conspiracies to making a play on one of his names...in other words, tactics that quite plainly lack any sort of class, substance, credibility. Really - it is so transparent, it's actually amusing.
Peace and God bless,
They should be more like Hilary, who's showing tons of class, substance, credibility... NOT.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/21/2008 11:00:29 PM
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I'm just waiting for the balloon to pop...
...pull up a chair and get comfortable...cuz you're in for a long wait ;p
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 2:59:08 PM
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What is this "change"? What has he articulated so eloquently about what this change is going to be?
He may in fact be a great speaker, but as has been said, Where's the beef?
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 3:37:44 PM
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And I fainted at a Dan Quayle rally. It's not news. It's what happens when lots of people get in tight spaces.
You are willing to admit in public that you attended a Dan Quayle rally and swooned over him? You got guts.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 6:35:26 PM
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What is this "change"? What has he articulated so eloquently about what this change is going to be?
He may in fact be a great speaker, but as has been said, Where's the beef?
A withdrawal from Iraq, a return to using diplomacy to solve problems.
Health care for all who want it, even poor people.
Policy built from consensus, rather than division.
Americans will no longer be wiretapped without a warrant.
No more simultaneously cutting taxes and expanding spending.
That's a pretty good start!
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 6:44:43 PM
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A withdrawal from Iraq, a return to using diplomacy to solve problems.
Health care for all who want it, even poor people.
Policy built from consensus, rather than division.
Americans will no longer be wiretapped without a warrant.
No more simultaneously cutting taxes and expanding spending.
That's a pretty good start!
Don't forget healing our souls - he promised to do that too.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 7:11:05 PM
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What is this "change"?
I heard somebody say that "change" is all we'll have left when he starts raising taxes to pay for his programs.
And if you don't think he can do that, remember his other slogan....
"Yes we can!"
-Julius
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 8:00:20 PM
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Let's see. Obama is inspiring millions of people, many of them young, who have never voted before to participate in the political process. That's a bad thing?
Some pundits have said that Obama's message of hope and optimism is very reminiscent of Ronald Reagan's campaign back in 1980. People are drawn to that, especially in the light of a very unpopular presidency and troubles abroad (as in Reagan's day too). If the Republican's can't find a way to push back against the Obama tidal wave, then his victory could be every bit as convincing as Reagan's was over Carter. Democrats are most definitely fired up and ready to go! (er... is that plagiarism?)
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 10:40:41 PM
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Obama's change is for the people, in the room with him, to be from a sitting or standing posture to swooned. Just like Benny Hinn when he blows on people
Ah, I see - slain in the Obama spirit? 
Slain in some spirit....certainly not the Spirit of God.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 10:52:16 PM
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What is this "change"?
I heard somebody say that "change" is all we'll have left when he starts raising taxes to pay for his programs.
And if you don't think he can do that, remember his other slogan....
"Yes we can!"
-Julius
Down here in Texas he is saying that as "Si, Se Puede!" Not that he is going after the non-English speaking crowd or anything... 
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Let's see. Obama is inspiring millions of people, many of them young, who have never voted before to participate in the political process. That's a bad thing? Is it really a good thing to have a non-informed populace choosing our representatives just because they want to be "on the bandwagon"? I'm beginning to think that those "candidate chooser" questionnaires like have been linked to on this site might be a good option for those who wish to vote. You answer the questions on what your values are and then HAVE to vote for the candidate that most lines up with your answers.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 11:16:09 PM
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A withdrawal from Iraq, a return to using diplomacy to solve problems.
Health care for all who want it, even poor people.
Policy built from consensus, rather than division.
Americans will no longer be wiretapped without a warrant.
No more simultaneously cutting taxes and expanding spending.
That's a pretty good start!
Don't forget healing our souls - he promised to do that too.
Actually, he didn't promise to do that. He said something along the lines of "America needs a new soul" which is very different than "I will heal your soul." And I think he is right--we do need a spiritual change. Actually, I don't really see how many Christians could disagree with that assessment.
I guess that's one more thing that he is changing. He campaigns without misquoting and smearing.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 11:19:06 PM
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Down here in Texas he is saying that as "Si, Se Puede!" Not that he is going after the non-English speaking crowd or anything...
Is it bad if Spanish speaking citizens like you? Is it wrong to want their vote? Was it wrong when GWB campaigned in Spanish?
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 11:29:32 PM
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And I fainted at a Dan Quayle rally. It's not news. It's what happens when lots of people get in tight spaces.
You are willing to admit in public that you attended a Dan Quayle rally and swooned over him? You got guts.
Congratulations on missing the point entirely. Let me repeat with emphasis: It's what happens when lots of people get in tight spaces.
That's why people fainting at Obama rallies is a media manipulated non-story designed to make Obama supporters look like fanatics. You put a lot of people in a confined space, especially if it's the least bit warm and they don't have anything to drink, and odds are, someone's going to faint. It has nothing to do with the person speaking.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/22/2008 11:39:08 PM
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Wow, I have never seen mass swoonings, or fainting in crowded concerts, I mean packed. I have felt like it once when a person who smelled really rank, but held my breathe, and did not faint. I think it is a bunch of people acting stupid. I mean if it is that packed, that it causes physical fainting, I guess I would have enough sense not to go. fanatics ... Yeah. 
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And I fainted at a Dan Quayle rally. It's not news. It's what happens when lots of people get in tight spaces.
You are willing to admit in public that you attended a Dan Quayle rally and swooned over him? You got guts.
Congratulations on missing the point entirely. Let me repeat with emphasis: It's what happens when lots of people get in tight spaces.
That's why people fainting at Obama rallies is a media manipulated non-story designed to make Obama supporters look like fanatics. You put a lot of people in a confined space, especially if it's the least bit warm and they don't have anything to drink, and odds are, someone's going to faint. It has nothing to do with the person speaking.
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/23/2008 12:37:22 AM
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Wow, I have never seen mass swoonings, or fainting in crowded concerts, I mean packed. I have felt like it once when a person who smelled really rank, but held my breathe, and did not faint. I think it is a bunch of people acting stupid. I mean if it is that packed, that it causes physical fainting, I guess I would have enough sense not to go. fanatics ... Yeah.
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And I fainted at a Dan Quayle rally. It's not news. It's what happens when lots of people get in tight spaces.
You are willing to admit in public that you attended a Dan Quayle rally and swooned over him? You got guts.
Congratulations on missing the point entirely. Let me repeat with emphasis: It's what happens when lots of people get in tight spaces.
That's why people fainting at Obama rallies is a media manipulated non-story designed to make Obama supporters look like fanatics. You put a lot of people in a confined space, especially if it's the least bit warm and they don't have anything to drink, and odds are, someone's going to faint. It has nothing to do with the person speaking.
She missed the point, dear sister, that Obama might be blowing on them like Benny Hinn 
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/23/2008 12:44:08 AM
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LOL hope his breath is good. 
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Wow, I have never seen mass swoonings, or fainting in crowded concerts, I mean packed. I have felt like it once when a person who smelled really rank, but held my breathe, and did not faint. I think it is a bunch of people acting stupid. I mean if it is that packed, that it causes physical fainting, I guess I would have enough sense not to go. fanatics ... Yeah.
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And I fainted at a Dan Quayle rally. It's not news. It's what happens when lots of people get in tight spaces.
You are willing to admit in public that you attended a Dan Quayle rally and swooned over him? You got guts.
Congratulations on missing the point entirely. Let me repeat with emphasis: It's what happens when lots of people get in tight spaces.
That's why people fainting at Obama rallies is a media manipulated non-story designed to make Obama supporters look like fanatics. You put a lot of people in a confined space, especially if it's the least bit warm and they don't have anything to drink, and odds are, someone's going to faint. It has nothing to do with the person speaking.
She missed the point, dear sister, that Obama might be blowing on them like Benny Hinn
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RE: Is the Obama campaign taking on a cult-like turn? - 2/23/2008 8:32:25 AM
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wing2000
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IMHO, I think Republicans are scared if Obama is the democratic nominee for the bid for president - because he is so articulate; young; his 'Change' theme is very credible. Republicans have to, then, find some way to demonize Obama, and it looks like they have. From cult conspiracies to making a play on one of his names...in other words, tactics that quite plainly lack any sort of class, substance, credibility. Really - it is so transparent, it's actually amusing.
Liz hit the nail on the head.
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