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Baby Chat....take 2
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 1mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 2mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 3mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 4mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 5mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 6mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 7mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 8mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 9mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 10mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 11mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 12mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 15mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 18mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 21mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 24mo |
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| My baby hasn't hit that weight yet. |
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Total Votes : 17
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(last vote on : 4/28/2008 4:19:51 AM)
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 1:28:30 PM
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Jenny-Fair
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If his height is only in the 95th, then that's all his weight needs to be in too
That is not true. This society's obsession with thinness has colored even our understanding of BABIES' weight. A child's weight and height are what they are--kids don't overeat unless parents are interfering with their normal hunger-fullness signals (refusing to feed, forcing eating, dismissing "I'm hungry" signals, etc). A child's weight will fluctuate, too, even relative to their height-especially younger kids who put on fat and then have a growth spurt, and then there are times when they need extra energy stores-just before crawling, just before walking, just before puberty, etc. Seriously, if you start worrying about 'fatness' when you have little children you will cause them to have a disordered relationship with food. I would read Like Mother, Like Daughter (even though you have sons) as you might find echoes of your own childhood in there.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 1:33:40 PM
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LaurainAL
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I agree with Jenny Fair.
My daughter is also very small. She is 4 years old and weighs about 30 lbs. Her Dr. told me to only give her skim milk because of the obesity epidemic. He also told me to that artificial sweetners were ok. When I told him that I had read about the dangers of artificial sweetners he said, "That is what the sugar people want you to think".
Whatever.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 1:42:45 PM
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Jenny-Fair
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At 12 and 15 (next month) my boys still drink full-fat milk. They need the fat!
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 3:54:01 PM
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Mrs.X
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From Dr. Sears
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Does milk contain a lot of fat? Yes and no, depending on whether you use whole, lowfat, or skim milk. Since milk is an animal product, most of the fat in milk is saturated. So you can scratch whole milk from a heart-healthy diet. A glass of whole milk contains five grams of saturated fat, two-percent milk contains 2.9 grams of saturated fat, and a glass of one percent milk contains 1.6 grams of saturated fat. An 8-ounce glass of whole milk also contains 23-31 milligrams of cholesterol, and three glasses of whole milk contain about the same amount of cholesterol as one lean ground beef patty. In contrast, a glass of one-percent (lowfat) milk will contain only ten grams of cholesterol. Three glasses of milk will contain 30 milligrams of cholesterol, only one-tenth of the maximum 300 milligrams a day recommended for an adult and only one-fifth of the maximum 150 milligrams a day recommended for an average pre-school child.
Cow's milk does not contain any of the essential fatty acids necessary for brain and body growth in young children. The fat composition of milk depends upon the composition of the fat in the cow's feed, and the essential fatty acids from the cow feed may be hydrogenated or saturated as they pass through the cow's four stomachs. The fats in cow's milk even contain trans fatty acids, and the amount depends upon the season of the year the cow is grazing (up to six percent in the summer and three percent in the winter). As you can see, there are many good reasons for choosing lowfat or skim milk over two-percent or whole milk.
I actually didn't know all that.
From KidsHealh.org
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Toddlers should have 500 milligrams of calcium a day. This requirement is easily met if your child gets the recommended two servings of dairy foods every day. An important part of a toddler's diet, milk provides calcium and vitamin D to help build strong bones. Children under age 2 should have whole milk to help provide the dietary fats they need for normal growth and brain development. After age 2, most kids can switch to low-fat or non-fat milk, although you should discuss this decision with your child's doctor.
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Cow's milk is low in iron. Drinking a lot of cow's milk (more than 24-36 ounces/720 milliliters) also can put a child at risk of developing iron deficiency. Toddlers who drink a lot of cow's milk may be less hungry and less likely to eat iron-rich foods. Milk decreases the absorption of iron and can also irritate the lining of the intestine, causing small amounts of bleeding and the gradual loss of iron in the stool. Another reason we decreased his milk, his iron levels were low at his WIC appointments. He didn't want to eat a lot of food because I believe that he felt too full from the milk.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 3:55:38 PM
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Mrs.X
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Maggie, I hope you get that new place. I used to get bad dreams about Timmy falling down stairs when we first moved here. It is such a scary experience.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 4:03:55 PM
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myka
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I can't vote (my babies are all over 3). My ds was always at the 90 percentile for height and 10 percentile for weight. He was never off the charts and steadily followed both those curves. Right now, he is at 96 percentile for height and about 40-50 percentile for weight. My dd1 when she was little was 50/50. My little one was 10-25 percentile for height and could be off the bottom of the chart for weight (funny when I checked her BMI, it was within the normal range while she was off the bottom on weight).
Each individual child grows in their own individual way. Sometimes, the weight/height can indicate a problem, but sometimes it is just what it is.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 4:17:36 PM
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Mrs.Wifey
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Christina, following your logic I should cut back on Gabby's formula since she is in the 40% for her weight and only the 20% for her height! According to her pediatrician it's perfectly fine for her height and weight percentiles to be different, it is NORMAL!
Out of curiosity, how much milk was he drinking?
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 5:33:57 PM
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Mrs.X
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Sarah, it wasn't so much that his weight and height weren't proportionate on the chart, it was the fact that I knew his jump was because of his switch from some milk and juice to a little juice and a lot of milk. If nothing had changed in his diet, and he was eatin ga normal amount of foods and milk everyday, I would have told WIC were they could stick it. They accused me of feeding Timmy too much fast food, and when I told them no he;'s drinking the TON of milk YOU give him, they didn't believe me. And, when I cut back his milk and nothing else, they were so moded.
I don't think helping and teaching my kids to make healthy choices is going to doom them for a lifetime of weight obsession and eating disorders. Timmy doesn't even know he went to 2%.
Ryanne, I wouldn't mean that statement for a young baby, or a baby who is in the middle of the charts. I meant for a two year old who's weight is WAY off the charts because of a change in diet. Timmy gets 16-20 oz. of 2% Lactaid a day (about the recommended amount from the AAP). He use to get about 32oz. of whole milk a day.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 7:29:17 PM
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nicole6598
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LOL thanks Chelsea and Christina!
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 7:31:39 PM
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TammyIsBlessed
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My doctor has never even told me where my babies were on the charts at all. They were healthy looking so that was what counted. Yay for my doctor!
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 8:29:54 PM
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clag4christ
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Our pedi. told us to stop giving Hannah whole milk after her 2 year check up...because of the 'obesity' epidemic. We just smiled and nodded. She was in the 40% for weight I believe at that time. Joel drank whole milk for his entire growing up years and was *never* overweight. If they (kids) need the whole milk for improved brain function and growth up until 2 years...then why not past that? Hannah's growth is great and barely drinks any milk now...mostly juice and water (and some tea and coffee).
I give my kids good portion sizes (not too much not too little) and they're very active! There's no reason to put them on a diet in their formative & growing years.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 8:34:42 PM
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Mrs.Wifey
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Gabby probably won't ever get whole milk, lol. We will just give her an Omega supplement and call it good :)
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 8:45:35 PM
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Yay Nicole!!!
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 9:59:19 PM
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Mrs.Wifey
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The "new" evidence says not to medicate until 104 degrees  and that the biggest thing to watch for is lethargy, listlessness(are those the same thing?), and generally a change in temperament from the norm.
For us, we have never had a fever that high but I am not one to medicate unless necessary, I would probably avoid meds until bedtime.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/19/2008 10:04:45 PM
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paulsbride
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the biggest thing to watch for is lethargy, listlessness(are those the same thing?), and generally a change in temperament from the norm.
I really do want to know what everyone does with their own children, but I wanted to ask about Judah right now too - his temp is 103.4 and he is *not* himself. He wants me to hold him and he cuddles right into my neck and moans. I had to run out to the store for something and he was just so pitiful. I wanted to cry. Nothing amused him. Usually I can make funny faces at him in the mirror and he will at least crack a smile, but this evening *nothing* made him smile.
He's been clingy and whiny the last few days, but his temp was never high, and he was still playful and happy - he just wanted me ALL the time! So I thought it was a tooth, even though I can't see a tooth breaking through.
He is sleeping now. If he is still lethargic tomorrow do you think that warrants a Dr. visit, or wait another day?
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