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Baby Chat....take 2
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 1mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 2mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 3mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 4mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 5mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 6mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 7mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 8mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 9mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 10mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 11mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 12mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 15mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 18mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 21mo |
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| 16lb (7.25 kg) at 24mo |
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| My baby hasn't hit that weight yet. |
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Total Votes : 17
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(last vote on : 4/28/2008 4:19:51 AM)
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 12:05:38 AM
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manda59
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I am so glad his temp has gone down.
Am really off now, and will keep praying for his healing and for strength for you. (You are NOT alone!)
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 12:19:26 AM
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Mrs.X
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ORIGINAL: manda59
If it was me, I'd be telephoning the "out of hours" doctor, and he'd come out to my house.
Is that a free service provided by the government? I wish we had something like that in the states. I watched a documentary on healthcare, and France has something similar to your out of hours doctor.
Jessica, I agree with Manda about the bath if he wakes up. A tepid bath will bring his temp down really fast, but it doesn't last long. Do you have ibuprofen and tylenol or just one? If you have both, you can give tylenol 4 hours after ibuprofen then ibuprofen two hours after the tylenol. Normally I wouldn't do that if the first one brought it down to 100, but 103 is awfully high while medicated.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 12:24:12 AM
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Mrs.X
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Oh, we must have double posted. I'm glad his temp went down too. 101 is much safer.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 5:28:24 AM
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manda59
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If it was me, I'd be telephoning the "out of hours" doctor, and he'd come out to my house.
Is that a free service provided by the government? I wish we had something like that in the states. I watched a documentary on healthcare, and France has something similar to your out of hours doctor.
Yes, Christina, it's all provided by the NHS (National Health Service). Depending on where you live, a doctor will either come out to you (though it can take quite a while, it depends on what priority your case is given) or you can meet a doctor at a local hospital (different from ER because a visiting doctor is allocated a room and he sees patients as a normal doctor would, with specific appointments). We also have a small local hospital nearby which doesn't have an ER but does have a Minor Injuries Unit which is open till 9pm, which will deal with anything non lifethreatening.
My ds had meningitis at 4 days old, and though he made a complete recovery from it all eventually, I was anxious for about the first two years every time he got a temperature. They were very patient with me when I kept calling them out, and told me I didn't need to apologise, they would always have time to check a baby if mum was worried (even at 3am as it was a couple of times!)
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A tepid bath will bring his temp down really fast, but it doesn't last long.
Jessica, you might like to consider this at least once a day for the next few days, to help his temp to come down. It really does work well.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 8:42:02 AM
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3cappuccinosmom
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Jae, please don't do cio with your tiny baby.  He is still adjusting to life outside the womb. He has no clue where he is or what he is, really, except that he is no longer curled up in his safe warm never-changing former "home". He spent nine months inside you, hearing yoru voice and your heartbeat, and now you are the giver of all good thigns (milk!).  Of couse he wants only you. 
If you need sleep and he needs sleep, letting him sleep on your chest at this age is not going to automatically lead to 1 year of co sleeping. It might even be good for him, since being close to mom helps babies regulate their heartrates and breathing when they're sleeping.
He's not being bad--God built certain needs into him and the only way he knows to communicate them is crying.
Have you tried swaddling him? That has helped some of mine sleep. Especially if I swaddled them before nursing when they were tired, then they wouldn't startle awake when I moved them. Also, be sure, before you pick him up that he is truly awake. Sometimes babies cry and make noises in their sleep.
{{{{Jae}}}}
I know it's miserable, but this will pass.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 8:46:47 AM
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Sideways
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Janine, is there anyone else who can help you out, even for one night? Can Jason take a shift on a night where he doesn't have to work the next day?
Have you tried swaddling? You don't have to co-sleep, and in fact, it would've been a terrible idea for my family.
Remember the five S's to help a baby drift off to sleep. Swaddling, swaying (gently), shushing (it sounds rude but it worked wonders for Nathan), sucking (don't be afraid for pacis), Side or stomach (while holding him)
HERE is a link to some methods that worked really great for us to get the baby off to sleep. I personally don't believe that CIO is a good idea at this age, but giving him five minutes or so will not damage your baby.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 9:02:03 AM
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Sideways
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I'm just saying, if there are only the two choices, chest sleeping and CIO for a 1 week old, go for the chest sleeping. At least they both get a little sleep.
I hear what you're saying, but I highly doubt those are the only two choices. Since Nathan has been sick he's been resting on dH and I's chests in turn, and neither dH or myself can get any sleep that way. Other women can maybe sleep with a baby sitting on their chest; I can't.
I don't like the idea CIO, either, as I said, but I don't think Janine just has to suck it up. I hope there are other ways of easing the babe into sleep.
What about side sleeping? With support on the back and stomach? Other women here can help you with that better then I can.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 9:07:00 AM
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manda59
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When do you start tough love? My baby is 1 week & 2 days old. My nights are hell. He won't sleep in his bed.
Tell me what your nighttime routine is like - ie what you do when he wakes for a feed right through to putting him down in his bed.
Also, are you taking naps in the daytime when he sleeps? This is VITAL for you to be able to cope with the sleep-starved nights.
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When do u just let them cry it out? Do you let them cry it out?
I never left either of mine to cry it out, but I did do controlled crying, right from when they came home from the hospital. (Some here wouldn't agree with even that, but it worked perfectly for my two, and they became happy well-adjusted confident toddlers and childre.)This involved putting them down awake, then staying with them stroking their head and patting them for 2-3 minutes. I also put classical music on quietly in the background.
I then left the room; if they started crying, I'd wait one minute then go back, reassure with touch and quiet soft voice (but not pick them up), then leave. (I'd put the music on again if it had stopped, I'd also replace the dummy - paci - in their mouth). If they started crying I'd wait two minutes then go back, reassure and then leave. Next time I'd stay out for three minutes, next time four, next time five and so on. Yes, it meant I was in and out of their room a lot, but it paid off because very soon they'd go down without crying.
With my ds, we did controlled crying right from two weeks old (that's when he came home). With my dd, for her first two weeks she slept in her car seat because she wasn't happy in her bed, but we knew that wasn't ideal (though it really helped at the start) because she needed to stretch out, so we gradually transitioned her to the cot and did controlled crying there.
Some people here believe in rocking their babies to sleep, keeping them there till they go into deep sleep and only then putting them down. I always put both of mine down awake.
Janine, this too will pass. You are doing fine and you are a good mum.
Becoming a mum brought out the worst in me (I can identify with the feeling resentful and callous), but also the best. You will get through this.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 9:32:01 AM
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firefightermama
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I don't believe in co-sleeping either, but in those first few weeks/months, I did whatever it took to get some sleep...many nights in the lazyboy with him sleeping on my chest. My husband said it would create a habit, but I just did whatever I could to make sure I could get whatever sleep possible.
It actually didn't create a habit, and he was sleeping in his crib at 8 weeks.
Don't feel guilty, newborn stage is HARD, and you are justified in your feelings.
And yes, ask your husband to help, and don't feel guilty that he has to work in the morning. (that was my problem)
((Jae))
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 10:49:24 AM
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firefightermama
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As PrudentWife once (wisely) said:
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Don't view your baby's need to be held as a bad thing. Don't you need comfort from the Lord sometimes? Don't you need comfort from your husband sometimes? Wouldn't you hate it if you always had to self-sooth and comfort yourself? Babies are extremely immature and self-centered, and they truly need tons of attention. Babies don't manipulate their parents, they just need a lot of love.
I have printed off that post and kept it with my baby book, and looked at it over and over again. It just seems to keep things in perspective. Thanks Prudent.
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 10:50:47 AM
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Sideways
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Here's an important question, Janine, can you fall asleep on a recliner with a baby on your chest? I couldn't, no matter how tired I was. At most I could rest my eyes a bit.
Also remember, it is not just a black and white decision between co-sleeping and letting your baby scream for hours. There are lots of other soothing methods you can try. And again, ASK FOR HELP!
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RE: Baby Chat....take 2 - 3/21/2008 10:57:47 AM
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Mrs.Wifey
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Yea, having them sleep on your chest or even on the couch with you does not mean you will be cosleeping for forever. Gabby spent her first 8 weeks sleeping on the couch on my chest, or next to me in bed and she transitioned just fine to sleeping in her own bed at 8 weeks old. Now we put her down fully awake and she goes to sleep on her own and 98% of the time she doesn't even make a peep.
DO NOT do CIO, I have an entire research paper I just wrote to summarize 17 different studies that have been done by colleges like Harvard, UCLA, etc... on the way being left to cry and separated from parents effects the development of a babies brain. In fact, even most people who DO do some form of CIO don't start until after 2-3 months old.
And really, until he is 6 weeks old(plus some extra time since he was tiny) it's not even really recommended to try and push them into a schedule.
8-10 weeks of snuggling your baby to sleep of your 70+ long year life is not much 
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I'm off to bed now, and am hoping Judah is going to sleep late too! (I kept him up the whole time we were out!)
Niece and Nathan get along so well.
