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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/11/2009 10:57:09 PM
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Bill521
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My personal E-mail address is dyerb88@yahoo.com I would love to hear from you.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/15/2009 1:30:44 AM
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Williamtell
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Hello!
I'm new to this forum and to being involved in a forum at all. This one caught my attention. Decided to participate. Teach me the rules, ok?
I really appreciated skimming through all the posts. Bill, you're hanging in with dedication and committment. Be Blessed!
Should I share history so you understand where I'm coming from? Perhaps some history will also make it easier for anyone on this post converse, ask questions, enlist support, etc.
I don't think I've ever considered myself gay, but over a period of time I most definately developed a huge same sex attraction.
I was adopted the first time at age three, second time at age 7. Spent some time knocking about in foster homes in between. Was always in a 'Christian' home. Birth came about the result of an affair my blood mother had with a boss. They divorced. First adopted parents divorced. Second adopted parents divorced when I was sixteen.
Raped by an upper classman that 'befriended' me my sophomore year in high school at a church operated boarding school. Other than sending the student home, nothing else was done like contacting authorities, informing my parents, offering counseling, etc. This event, coming on the heels of all of the other events in my life left me devastated, confused about my own sexuality, certainly very confused about the role of men in my life, and until later in life not at all willing to trust any 'father' figure, especially God 'The Father'. Things really revved up after that. I've only spoken of these events four times in my life; twice to a counselor. The counselors both told me that I was acting to exact revenge for what happened in the rape, but wasn't really gay at all.
Here are a few things I've learned:
God is, in fact, a God of Love! Took a long time to learn, but I did.
He is my only strength. I can have lots of friends in my support group, but there can be only one God.
I have to make choices. Every day! I like this acronym: FLEE - Faithfully Leaving Enticing Entrapments.
Because of past choices, EVERY SINGLE DAY satan throws those old bad choices down in front, telling me I'm not worthy. So I have to daily make new, good choices. Fact is, Christ considered me worth the ultimate sacrifice: His own blood! You can't get more worthy than that. Worthy, that is, in Christ. Perhaps a dozen times daily I have to ask "Lord Jesus, take every thought captive in obedience." 2 Corinthians 10:5.
Every day I need to start my day with a 'Daily Declaration' of six different declarations 'in the name of Jesus...' that are all based on my weaknesses and His answer to those weaknesses in His Word. And I must spend daily time with my Lord in His Word and in prayer.
These are the disciplines and choices I must make in order to walk in relationship and purity in Him.
Hope this helps.
Be Blessed!
William
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/15/2009 10:35:17 AM
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sacredwarrior
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Williamtell,
Thank you so much for sharing about you and the things you´ve learned and experienced. That takes honesty and generosity.
Your post is a blessing for me and encourages me to continue laying my life at the feet of Jesus. I´ll try and start practicing some of your disciplines.
Bless you in the name of Jesus!
Fernando
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/16/2009 1:10:58 AM
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As one who has struggled with same sex attraction, the one most important thing that makes the difference;
1. Want God above your self.
2. Want His Spirit... dying to your own desires.
3. Want His Word... all of it.
4. Be ready for a new identity.
5. Wait upon the Lord.
6. Love God with all your heart.
7. Don't rely on your own understandings.
8. Want Healing... from your heart, only cause you want God.
I've seen many men & young men pursue "healing" only to fall away cause they were ONLY doing it for family. Only when you love God, with all your heart will healing really be apt to occur... like a seed that falls on fertile soil. Don't be of a rocky soil, hardened, or one with weeds for you can't serve two masters.
And know, Love never fails. That is God's love never fails. He wants you to be free, indeed today. But, sometimes our entrapments hinder us from that. Pornography can be powerful. Yet, more powerful is He!
But you can only love God, when you let Him love you.
Have your intimate quite times with your Papa Creator!
Bless you brothers,
Chris Johnson
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/21/2009 10:04:53 PM
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Bill521
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Hey,
I told you that I would tell you some about the book I am reading, "The Gay Agenda", well here are some quotes from the pages I think you may find interesting. I sure did.
1986: New Youk City's Human Rights Law is amended to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, paving the way for equal rights for jobs, housing, and education.
1989: In Braschi v. Stahl Associates, New York's Supreme Court rules that so long as proof of a "committed relationship" can be established, same-sex partners qualify as "family" under the state's rent regulations.
1993: Hawaii's highest court rules that prohibiting same-sex couples from marrying "may violate Hawaii Constitution's ban on sex discrimination and can only be upheld if prohibition is justified by a compelling reason."
1996: A Hawaii trial court rules that "prohibiting same-sex couples from marrying is not justified by any reason, much less a compelling one, and that these couples should therefore be allowed to marry." Two years later, before the state Supreme Court could issue a final ruling, voters amended the state constitution to allow the legislature to define marriage as being between a man and a women, only.
1998: An Alaska trial court rules that it is a fundamental right to choose one's marital partner. Two years later, Alaska voters follow the Hawaii lead and choose to amend the state's constitution to restrict marriage to unions between men and women only.
1999: Same-sex marriage issues in the courts shift to the east coast, where the Vermont Supreme Court rules that same-sex partners are entitled to all rights provided to married couples, under the state's constitution. the decision does not address same-sex marriage specifically, but is confined to rights and benefits.
2000: The Vermont legislature creates a law allowing "civil unions" for same-sex couples.
2002: Gay and lesbian couples in Massachusetts appeal a trial court's dismissal of a marriage lawsuit sought by said couples.
2002: Seven New Jersey couples sue in state court, asking for the right to marry.
While same-sex marriage issues seemed to emerge suddenly in 2003-2004, the groundwork had been laid years before. And today, court challenges, rulings, and controversial statements are exploding in courts all over the country.
I was quite surprised to read that all this had taken place in years past. Hopefully the future will be better. Evil reigns when good men do nothing!
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/25/2009 4:58:53 PM
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I am really glad there is somewhere to talk I am married, I enjoy my wife sexually yet I strugle with same sex fantasies and desires, I know that after viewing a number of movies and pictures of men and sexual acts it is hard to get out of your head and thoughts. I do for long periods of time and then it seems to bombard me again. I dont understand it and I have had to deal with it most of my life. I would love to be able to talk more myemail is fireproof717@gmx.com if anyone wants to talk or advise that would be great..
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/28/2009 8:40:17 PM
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Bill521
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Hey,
When I find myself thinking and dwelling on the pictures and thoughts of men, I try to think of scripture. I find it helps me get my mind back on God and out of sins way. Here are a few that I like to remember.
Proverbs 3:5-6 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight."
Isaiah 41:10 "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you' I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."
Romans 8:6 "For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace."
Think on these and let them permeate your thoughts and keep you mind on the Lord and allow his Holy Spirit help you keep away from sin. Temptation is not sin, dwelling on that sin is. Remember that. When you begin thinking, get off the sinful thoughts and begin thinking on something else.
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/1/2009 7:35:40 PM
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Williamtell
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One of the disciplines I've had to develop after engaging in negative habits for so many years is a Daily Declaration. Here it is.
Each one starts: In the name of Jesus I choose and declare this day:
That I am a much loved son of Almighty God. John 15:9, Galations 2:20.
That satan has no authority over my life unless I agree with him. I choose not to agree with him regarding any aspect of my life. Luke 10:18-20, John 19:11.
That I surrender all that I am and all that I will be to the control of the Holy Spirit. Titus 3:4-6
That by the grace of God I will live this day pure in heart. That I will be light and salt to those around me. That I will honor God and I will acknowledge Him in all my ways, so that He will make my paths straight. Matthew 5:13-14, Proverbs 3:5-6, 2 Corinthians 10:5.
That by the grace of God I will have open eyes and ears to hear His voice and the voice of those around me in need of Him. That I will have an open heart to immediately obey in faithfulness every command He makes. Isaiah 6:10b, Matthew 13:14-16, 2 Samuel 22:13-15, John 10:3-5.
That my body is a living temple and the residence of the Holy Spirit. By the grace of God I will honor Him in all that I say, all that I do, and all that I eat. In everything I will give thanks. 2 Corinthians 6:16-17, 1 Samuel 2:30, Revelation 4:11, 1 Timothy 1:17.
Then I also have the following passages typed in bold face type: Ephesians 6:14-17, Ephesians 5:22-25, Psalm 143:7-12, Psalm 144:1-4, Isaiah 40:27-31, and Isaiah 41:10.
All of this is typed out on three pages, including the full text of each Bible reference. I try to read this aloud to myself in my quiet place early each morning.
When I don't do this discipline, my day never goes the way I'd like to see it go.
Hope this is useful to you.
Be Blessed!
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/3/2009 9:41:43 PM
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Bill521
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Hey William
That is useful to me and I am sure it will be to others who read this forum. I will copy this down for my own use and may even read it daily as you do. Thanks a lot for it. Here are a couple of scriptures that I read along with the ones mentioned before.
Ephesians 6:13: "Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground..."
Romans 12:21: "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."
I really look forward to hearing from you again. Keep up the faith and let the Lord lead you into the green pasture.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/7/2009 9:40:11 PM
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Bill521
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Gentlemen,
Here is a list of good books I have read. The first one on the list is the best one.
A Strong Delusion by Joe Dallas.
Counseling the Homosexual by Michael R. Saia
Coming Out of Homosexuality by Bob Davies and Lori Rentzel
Homosexuality, Getting Free and Staying Free by Andy Koornstra
Homosexual No More by Dr. William Consiglio
Homosexuality "A Biblical view" by Greg L. Bahnsen
These are all very good books. I recommend them all.
In Psalm 18:30-34 it says,
This God-how perfect are his deeds!
How dependable his words!
He is like a shield
for all who seek his protection.
The Lord alone is God;
God alone is our defense.
He is the God who makes me strong,
who makes my pathway safe.
He makes me sure-footed as a deer;
he keeps me safe on the mountains.
He trains me for battle,
so that I can use the strongest bow.
Psalm 119:105-112 tells us.
Your word is a lamp to guide me
and a light for my path.
I will keep my solemn promise
to obey your just instructions.
My sufferings, Lord, are terrible indeed:
keep me alive, as you have promised.
Accept my prayer of thanks, O Lord,
and teach me your commands.
I am always ready to risk my life;
I have not forgotten your law.
Wicked men lay a trap for me,
but I have not disobeyed your commands.
Your commandments are my eternal possession;
they are the joy of my heart.
I have decided to obey your laws
until the day I die.
Wow, I hope this can be of encouragement to you. Let the Lord guide you and protect you in your time of need.
Have a good evening. God bless you.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/8/2009 7:35:12 AM
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Bill521
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Hey
I forgot to tell you that all of these books can be found at a discount on the web site Dealoz.com. You can find music, movies and books on this site. I have been using it for several years.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/13/2009 7:40:23 AM
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Bill521
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God Said NO!
I asked God to take away my habit.
God said, No.
It is not for me to take away, but for
You to give it up.
I asked God to make my handicapped child Whole.
God said, No.
His spirit is whole, his body is only
Temporary.
I asked God to grant me patience.
God said, No.Patience is a byproduct of
Tribulations; it isn't granted, it is
Learned.
I asked God to give me happiness.
God said, No.I give you blessings;
Happiness is up to you.
I asked God to spare me pain.
God said, No.
Suffering draws you apart from worldly
cares and brings you closer to me.
I asked God to make my spirit grow.
God said, No.You must grow on your own,
but I will prune you to make you
fruitful.
I asked God for all things that I might
enjoy life.
God said, No.
I will give you life, so that you may
enjoy all things.
I asked God to help me LOVE others, as
much as He loves me.
God said...Ahhhh, finally you have the idea.
THIS DAY IS YOURS DON'T THROW IT AWAY
May God Bless You,
"Good friends are like stars...You don't
Always see them,
but you know they are always there.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/17/2009 10:16:19 AM
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Bill521
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Greetings,
Sometimes I feel as if the Lord is far away from me. I feel alone in my daily struggles and I wonder where God is. So He showed me in His word how to look for Him.
Psalm 42,
A Prayer when God seems far away.
As a deer longs for a stream of cool water,
so I long for you, O God.
I thirst for you, the living God.
When can I go and worship in your presence?
Day and night I cry,
and tears are my only food;
all the time my enemies ask me,
"Where is your God?"
My heart breaks when I remember the past,
when I went with the crowds to the house
of God
and led them as they walked along,
a happy crowd, singing and shouting praise
to God.
Why am I so sad?
Why am I so troubled?
I will put my hope in God,
and once again I will praise him,
my savior and my God.
Here in exile my heart is breaking,
and so I turn my thoughts to him.
He has sent waves of sorrow over my soul;
chaos roars at me like a flood,
like waterfalls thundering down to the Jordan
from Mount Hermon and Mount Mizar.
May the Lord show his constant love during
the day,
so that I may have a song at night,
a prayer to the God of my life.
To God, my defender, I say,
"Why have you forgotten me?
Why must I go on suffering
from the cruelty of my enemies?"
I am crushed by their insults,
as they keep on asking me,
"Where is your God?"
Why am I so sad?
Why am I so troubled?
I will put my hope in God,
and once again I will praise him,
my savior and my God.
God is always with me even when I am not aware of it. He is there. He loves me and I know that, but in those times I feel low and lost, even then He is watching me and helping me with my daily walk. Be encouraged and believe that He is there!
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/20/2009 5:22:25 PM
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Bill521
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Hi guys,
I find myself in trouble mentally most of the time. My mind betrays me by thinking about men often. When we go out in public I find myself looking at very good looking men and sometime I have a problem undressing them in my mind and other things I think you know. Some times I get angry at God thinking that He should help me mentally. I then am reminded that I must take the first step and get my mind under control. The following scripture may help if you find yourself in the same situation.
Psalm 91
Whoever goes to the Lord for safety,
whoever remains under the protection of
the Almighty,
can say to him,
"You are my defender and protector.
You are my God; in you I trust."
He will keep you safe from all hidden dangers
and from all deadly diseases.
He will cover you with his wings;
you will be safe in his care;
his faithfulness will protect and defend you.
You need not fear any dangers at night
or sudden attacks during the day
or the plagues that strike in the dark
or the evils that kill in daylight.
A thousand may fall dead beside you,
ten thousand all around you,
but you will not be harmed.
You will look and see
how the wicked are punished.
You have made the Lord your defender,
the Most High your protector,
and so no disaster will strike you,
no violence will come near your home.
God will put his angels in charge of you
to protect you wherever you go.
They will hold you up with their hands
to keep you from hurting your feet on the stones.
You will trample down lions and snakes,
fierce lions and poisonous snakes.
God says, "I will save those who love me
and will protect those who acknowledge me
as Lord.
When they call to me, I will answer them;
when they are in trouble, I will be with them.
I will rescue them and honor them.
I will reward them with long life;
I find this comforting and needed when I come to myself and realize who is watching over me. All we need to do guys is let the Lord take over in our minds. He will if we ask Him to.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/28/2009 10:37:48 PM
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Bill521
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Greetings gentlemen,
As I think about my past and how much I struggled with my problem the more scripture the Lord taught me and brought to my mind. The following is a sample of more that I have learned to lean on. When I feel lonely and away from the Lord because of my sin, I remember these scriptures.
1 John 3:1-3
See how much the Father has loved us! His love is so great that we are called God's children and so, in fact, we are. This is why the world does not know us: it has not known God. My dear friends, we are now God's children, but it is not yet clear what we shall become. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he really is. Everyone who has this hope in Christ keeps himself pure, just as Christ is pure.
Philippians 4:4-9
Peace Beyond Human Understanding
May you always be joyful in your union with the Lord. I say it again: rejoice!
Show a gentle attitude toward everyone. The Lord is coming soon. Don't worry about anything, but in all your prayers ask God for what you need, always asking him with a thankful heart. And God's peace, which is far beyond human understanding, will keep your hearts and minds safe in union with Christ Jesus. In conclusion, my brothers, fill your minds with those things that are good and that deserve praise: things that are true, noble, right, pure, lovely, and honorable. Put into practice what you learned and received from me, both from my words and from my actions. And the God who gives us peace will be with you.
I try to make it a habit to think of anything other than sin. Allow the Lord to put into your mind those things that are more pleasant. Praise the Lord in your mind, singing, reading and prayer. Trust me, it really does work. I hope this has helped you some.
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 4/7/2009 10:44:16 PM
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Bill521
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Gentlemen,
I had an encounter this afternoon. There is a mechanic that is gay that came to our church today to work on our elevators, he knows I was gay at one time. The Lord helped me to quickly leave him and not be tempted. Here is a scripture He gave me after it was all over. This evening was a time of rejoicing because I was able to escape the temptation.
Psalm 121
I look to the mountains;
where will my help come from?
My help will come from the Lord,
who made heaven and earth.
He will not let you fall;
your protector is always awake.
The protector of Israel
never dozes or sleeps.
The Lord will guard you;
he is by your side to protect you.
The sun will not hurt you during the day,
nor the moon during the night.
The Lord will protect you from all danger;
he will keep you safe.
He will protect you as you come and go
now and forever.
I believe sometimes that I will always be tempted by homosexuals, but the longer I grow in the Lord the less temptations will come my way. Always let God help you out of the situation you are in. The Lord did say not to put yourself in a situation where you may sin. Stay away from temptation.
Until next time.
God bless you.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 4/18/2009 4:40:17 PM
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Bill521
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Hey guys,
I sometimes feel as if the Lord is far away from me. I can't seem to be able to read the Bible and get anything out of it. I also can't pray, my prayers hit the ceiling and no further. Ever feel that way? We if you do, read the following scripture and see if that won't help.
2 Corinthians 4:16-5:7.
For this reason we never become discouraged.
Even though our physical being is gradually
decaying, yet our spiritual being is renewed day after day.
And this small and temporary trouble
we suffer will bring us a tremendous and eternal
glory, much greater than the trouble. For we
fix our attention, not on things that are seen,
but on things that are unseen. What can be seen
lasts finely for a time, but what cannot be seen
lasts forever.
For we know that when this tent we live in--
our body here on earth--is torn down, God
will have a house in heaven for us to live in, a
home he himself has made, which will last
forever. And now we sigh, so great is our desire
that our home which comes from heaven should
be put on over us; by being clothed with it we
shall not be without a body. While we live in
this earthly tent, we groan with a feeling of
oppression; it is not that we want to get rid of
our earthly body, but that we want to have the
heavenly one put on over us, so that what is
mortal will be transformed by life. God is the
one who has prepared us for this change, and
he gave us his Spirit as the guarantee of all that
he has in store for us.
So we are always full of courage. We know
that as long as we are at home in the body we are
away from the Lord's home. For our life is
a matter of faith, not of sight.
Man what encouragement, to know that this body if only temporary and that we have something to look forward to. Keep the faith guys and remember it will end soon. When we all get to heaven.
God bless,
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 4/27/2009 1:12:00 PM
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Hey Men, a verse that has helped me is 1st Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9."Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived . Neither the sexually immoral nor adulters, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexual offenders will inherit the kingdom of God.
As strong of feelings has I have sometime toward other guys.I sure don't want to miss heaven because of it.
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 4/27/2009 7:51:13 PM
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Bill521
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Well said, I have used that scripture when I need to remind myself whose I am. Thanks for the response. God bless you man.
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 5/5/2009 10:26:01 AM
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sacredwarrior
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Hey there everyone,
I hope you are all doing great.
I just wanted to share with you a teaching from Andy Comiskey at the Las Condes Vineyard church here in Santiago, Chile.
I certainly hope it will be a blessing for you.
http://www.vinalascondes.cl/index.php?option=com_sermonspeaker&task=singlesermon&id=10084
In Christ,
Fernando
PS: If you want to download it, you have to right-click and "save link" on the arrow under "Descargar" (download).
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 5/9/2009 4:51:10 PM
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Bill521
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Greetings,
Thanks for the web site, I listened to it, it was great. I recommend it to everyone.
Here is something I believe everyone will like. I took it from a daily devotional from Dennis and Barbara Rainey, I hope you enjoy the truth that is here.
"I've found a widespread misconception about Satan's efforts to devour us by presenting us with temptation. Many people think that it's a sin just to be tempted. The fact is, being tempted is normal for a Christian-especially one who is growing.
Even Christ, we recall, was tempted in that classic confrontation with the devil at the beginning of His ministry. Giving in to temptation is the problem.
So how can we resist the roaring lion? First, know your weaknesses. If temptation occurs when you are alone, build in some safeguards. Ask your spouse to keep you honest and accountable by asking the hard questions that you don't want anyone to ask you. Example: Did you watch any provocative movies in your hotel room on your recent business trip? A good friend can also be your person to be accountable to. Keep your mind at work; prepare for times when you are alone by setting some objectives. Or the next time you are tempted, call your mate or friend and ask them to pray with you and for you.
Second, draw upon His power to stand firm. As Paul says, "God will not allow us to be tempted beyond what we can withstand, if we rely on His strength to deliver us" (1 Cor. 10:13)
Third, if you are toying with a temptation realize that you might as well be handling a serpent. Some people stand as close to the edge of sin as they can, thinking they are above it, when they may actually be toying with the death of their marriages, their family relationships and their ministries. In the same passage, Paul counsels, "If you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall!" (Verse 12).
As I was writing this, I received a phone call from a man who was about to lose his marriage and job because he crossed the line in his job. I wish you could have listened to the agony that was in his life because of his compromise. Let me encourage and exhort you to love a holy life and resist the temptations that are set before you.
Ask God to teach you how to stand firm in the spiritual battle. Call on the Holy Spirit and His indwelling power to give you the strength to stand firm."
Enough said!!!
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 5/10/2009 4:18:09 AM
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bigfrank
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I'm not a homosexual, but I have some questions.
How can I, as a heterosexual male, understand homosexuals better? How can I learn to relate to them? I don't have any friends that are openly gay, so I've never really interacted with anyone who is gay. I'm just interested to understand more about homosexuals so that I can better relate to them. I've learned a lot, but I'm interested to know more.
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 5/11/2009 10:15:41 PM
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sacredwarrior
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ORIGINAL: bigfrank
I'm not a homosexual, but I have some questions.
How can I, as a heterosexual male, understand homosexuals better? How can I learn to relate to them? I don't have any friends that are openly gay, so I've never really interacted with anyone who is gay. I'm just interested to understand more about homosexuals so that I can better relate to them. I've learned a lot, but I'm interested to know more.
Hey Frank,
I´m glad to see your disposition to get to know better people with such a struggle like this.
Many things can be said about this, but there´s a phrase that someone once wrote and that really summarizes a lot of the deal:
"Inside every homosexual man, there´s a heart of a boy longing for his father´s love and acceptance".
Fernando
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 5/12/2009 10:47:09 PM
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Bill521
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Hey Frank,
I have been a homosexual for most of my life, I am not now because of the Lord's ability to help me stay away from it. I can only tell you how I feel and what I have felt in the past. The only thing I can say is that as a homosexual it would be much like a heterosexual lusting after a woman. When you see a good looking woman how does it make you feel inside? Well think of a man feeling the same way as a homosexual. The difference is that we lust for men and you lust for women. Remember what the Lord said, "if you lust for a woman, you might as well have had sex with her." (paraphrased), well it is the same with a man on man. I hope this has been of some use to you, if not, I am continuing to think about your question.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 5/23/2009 11:15:53 PM
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Bill521
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Hey Guys,
Here is a thought for the day.
We need to know that our heavenly Father loves us if we are to trust Him with our lives. How can we trust that which we do not know? In other words, how can you exhibit faith in God if you don't know Him?
Faith is a process. To develop that "assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen" (Heb. 11:1), you need to have knowledge. Knowledge comes before conviction. And that knowledge of God primarily comes from Scripture.
Faith is not blind hope that you throw in the wind. Faith is only as good as its object. It is confidence, a conviction based on the knowledge that God and His Word are true.
God bless, Bill
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