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Ignited-Faith -> What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 1:26:16 AM)

What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth?

The Lie: I used to have a Rabbit's Foot on the end of my key-chain.
I thought it would bring me good luck.

The Truth: One day I heard a Preacher on t.v. say something like;
"Some people even put their hope in a Rabbit's Foot, thinking it will bring them good luck. Now think about it...What can a Dead Rabbit's Foot do for anyone? It's dead, it can't do anything. And just ask the Rabbit it once belonged to, he didn't feel so lucky either..."
"That they might set their hope in God, and not forget the works of God, but keep his commandments:"
Psalm 78:8

(How about you?)



GraceBro -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 2:24:22 AM)

Lie:

I used to believe that I had to keep asking God to forgive me of my sins.

Truth:

I already have forgiveness because I am in Christ.

"In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace..." Ephesians 1:7

"...that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them." 2 Corinthians 5:19

"Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more."And where these have been forgiven, there is no longer any sacrifice for sin." Hebrews 10:17-18

"For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins." Colossians 1: 13-14

"Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." Ephesians 4:32

"Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you." Colossians 3:13

"Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered." Romans 4:7

"I write to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name." 1 John 2:12

Grace and Peace



Sammy_S -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 2:33:46 AM)

There are far too many..But I will lay out the bomb in saying that I believed in the lie that if I(when I want saved) asked God to forgive me,he would indeed forgive me.



4IMPersuaded -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 5:28:09 AM)

Interesting question...

Having grown up in the church, I beleived that there were certain ways that one had to dress when going to church and that you acted a different way at church then you did the rest of the week-- as if God could only see you when you walked into His house and was not powerful enough to see your true heart.

The truth: God is omnicient and full of grace. My God wishes to commune with me in truth and cares little about what I wear to kneel at His feet. He can see the condition of my heart regardless of how I dress my outer shell. If I choose to dress up to enter His house, I may do so out of respect for Him, not to impress those who enter with me.



SonInMe1 -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 5:36:15 AM)

Lie: There are good people.

Revelation: Through experience and biblical support

David, a man after God's own heart. How many of us would hope God would say that to us on Judgement Day...and David was a murderer and adulterer.

Peter, a mighty man for God. When push came to shove he denied Christ three times.

Jacob, Isreal. Liar

Paul, missionary to the Gentiles. Murderer of christians.

Jesus, the only true good man...and He denied it.



Annie64 -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 6:18:28 AM)

Lie: If I didn't live a 100% perfect life all the time after becoming a Christian, God would expell me from His kingdom and never allow me to return.

The truth: that He is able to keep me. I didn't have to spin all my wheels trying to make sure I stayed okay.



Ephesians4_32 -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 7:20:57 AM)

I believed the lies of Mormonism.

I learned the truth when the Holy Spirit moved me to search for the true God in prayer and and to study my Bible.

James 1
5If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.


Romans 10
17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

2 Timothy 2
25In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;



amyk -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 8:21:26 AM)

quote:

There are far too many..But I will lay out the bomb in saying that I believed in the lie that if I(when I want saved) asked God to forgive me,he would indeed forgive me.


I'm not sure I understand what you are meaning. Are you trying to get at the point that we are forgiven because of what Christ has done, not because we just ask God for forgiveness?



rcjames -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 8:53:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GraceBro

Lie:

I used to believe that I had to keep asking God to forgive me of my sins.

Truth:

I already have forgiveness because I am in Christ.


Some folks use that line of thinking to water down the seriousness of a Christian who sins, but the Scripture says

(Heb 10:26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

(Heb 10:27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

The lie I used to believe was that a Chrfistian had to sin. I came to the knowledge of the truth by studying the Scriptures.

And mainly this verse;

(1Co 10:13) There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Thanks
RC

edited for spelling



URForgiven -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 9:18:29 AM)

I too used to believe the lie that Christs finished work on the cross was not sufficient, that I had to continually ask for the forgiveness that we, as Christians, already have as a present reality. Then one day as I was confessing my many sins [hoping, of course, I didn't miss any], God spoke these words to me:

"What sins?"



Walker311 -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 9:26:08 AM)

The lie?
That I can change someone else.

The truth?
I haven't met any mini me's.



CoeurdeLeon -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 9:46:02 AM)

The lie:
That I had to be good. That, somehow, it was my responsibility to fix myself up and be a good Christian.

The truth:
I have to get out of the way and let Christ be Himself in me.

For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ. Philippians 1:6



GraceBro -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 10:13:07 AM)

quote:

Some folks use that line of thinking to water down the seriousness of a Christian who sins


The lie is folks who believe that by continually seeking forgiveness they are being granted forgiveness. They are watering down the seriousness of a Christian who sins because sin deserves death not our continued, daily sacrifices which do not take away sin. i.e. confession booths, short accounts, altar calls, rosary beads, etc.

"Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins." Hebrews 10:11

The truth is that those who believe that we don't have a sacrifice good enough to propitiate God. Not even our death would satisfy Him. We believe that Jesus' once for all sacrifice is good enough.

"Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more."And where these have been forgiven, there is no longer any sacrifice for sin. Hebrews 10:17

The knowledge of truth being sinned against is that Christ took away our sins once and for all.

"And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all... because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy." Hebrews 10:10, 14

Grace and Peace



Prairiehiker -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 10:55:49 AM)

The lie: That I can pick and choose any one specific verse in the bible and claim that it's God's promise to me.

The truth: Verses have to be taken in context

Example:
Jeremiah 29"11 For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future

People use this to claim that God has a specific promise to them when in truth, this promise is made to the Jews in exile. If people would only read the entire passage, they'll know that it's not for everyone to claim. We're not all going to be prospered, or not harmed. Just look at the apostles. Most of them were executed. If they claim the Jeremiah passage, they'd lose hope in Jesus.

Lie: That God only has one specific plan for our lives, like one person to marry, or one job.

Truth: We're not robot. We can make our own decisions as long as it's within the revealed moral will of God, God will be pleased will our decision.



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Sammy_S -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 4:50:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: amyk

quote:

There are far too many..But I will lay out the bomb in saying that I believed in the lie that if I(when I want saved) asked God to forgive me,he would indeed forgive me.


I'm not sure I understand what you are meaning. Are you trying to get at the point that we are forgiven because of what Christ has done, not because we just ask God for forgiveness?


What I am saying is that God is Just.What modern Christianity has forgotten is what many call the greatest problem in Christianity.

How can a Holy,Just God forgive a sinner?If it is wrong for a judge(in his sinful nature) to pardon murderer.How can Holy,Just Gof forgive a sinner?

Here is scripture:
He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just,
Both of them alike are an abomination to the LORD.

Prov.17:15

If God is just he cannot and will not forgive.For the Lord to forgive,Justice must be done.His wrath must be satisfied.And that is where clearly where jesus Christ comes in,for who else can withstand the wrath of God and live?Oh worthy is our KING!

Only through the death of Christ are men granted repentance.So if one has not repented(change of heart) he cannot be forgiving of anything.

So simply asking for forgiveness does not save man or justifies him,It is when one repents and conitues to ask for forgiveness of his sins is he saved.

So yeah to answer your question,we are only saved because of Christ and not because we asked for forgiveness for that does nothing.



RJR_fan -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 4:56:31 PM)

The lie: that Christianity was nothing more than a system of internal religious experiences, and the only suitable goal for life was initiating others into that gnostic cluster of experiences. It was pointless to aspire to any influence or achievement in the world outside of my own skin.

The truth: Jesus is Lord, not guru. He designed us for achievement, productivity, and fruitfulness in the larger world, the one outside of our own skins. He loved the world He created so much that He redeems us and conscripts us into His ongoing task of caring for it, improving it, making it better than we found it.

In retrospect, personal weaknesses (autistic spectrum stuff) interacted with perverse incentives in the popular Christian culture with devastating personal results. 30+ years later, my testimony with my family is still injured. I'm still playing vocational catch-up, trying to finish my academic career prep at age 56, moving from one career toe-hold to the next.

The victory: God's mercies, and better theology, have allowed me to enjoy victories in the areas most important to me.



Ignited-Faith -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 6:51:19 PM)

Sammy_S,
Amen!

"...But unless you repent, you too will all perish."
Luke 13:3b

"For the wages of sin is death;
but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Romans 6:23



Sammy_S -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 10:31:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ignited-Faith

Sammy_S,
Amen!

"...But unless you repent, you too will all perish."
Luke 13:3b

"For the wages of sin is death;
but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Romans 6:23


Amen!There are many things that breaks my heart in modern christianity but the lack of understanding on what true repentance is by far the one that hurts me the most.We(North American christians) have watered down the Gospel to a point hwere persurcution is unheard of.



still4gvn -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/6/2008 10:41:57 PM)

like prariehiker said, we can't take verses out of context. Paul said to the jailer that if he accepted Christ, he "and his whole family" would be saved. That was a prophesy about the jailer's family, not a promise to everyone. That was a hard pill to swallow.



cynthia -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/7/2008 3:30:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CoeurdeLeon

The lie:
That I had to be good. That, somehow, it was my responsibility to fix myself up and be a good Christian.

The truth:
I have to get out of the way and let Christ be Himself in me.

For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ. Philippians 1:6

This was exactly what I was thinking. When I realized this was a lie and let the Lord work in me, my whole life changed for the better.



map4 -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/7/2008 4:39:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cynthia

quote:

ORIGINAL: CoeurdeLeon

The lie:
That I had to be good. That, somehow, it was my responsibility to fix myself up and be a good Christian.

The truth:
I have to get out of the way and let Christ be Himself in me.

For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ. Philippians 1:6

This was exactly what I was thinking. When I realized this was a lie and let the Lord work in me, my whole life changed for the better.



Me too. And realizing there is also no condemnation. Man, what freedom when we know this!!



Ignited-Faith -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/7/2008 5:49:44 PM)

Thanks Everyone for sharing!
(What a blessing to read.)
Please keep them comming!



sunshine4God -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/7/2008 7:40:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CoeurdeLeon

The lie:
That I had to be good. That, somehow, it was my responsibility to fix myself up and be a good Christian.

The truth:
I have to get out of the way and let Christ be Himself in me.

For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ. Philippians 1:6

quote:

The lie:

I believed this same lie for the longest time that If I weren't the perfect christian I wouldn't be as good in Gods eyes,and he wouldn't love me as much if I kept falling into sin.Boy was that a release when God took that lie away from me,and let me see who I was in him!



designed -> RE: What is one lie that you once believed, and how did you come to know the truth? (4/8/2008 12:07:53 AM)

The Lie: That in order to even begin a realtionship or ask Jesus in to my heart, I had to "get my stuff" together first (be a "good" person).

The Truth: I was never able to get it together without God in my life, there is no good in me that is not from Him, and He invited me to come just as I was, (which happenened to be at rock bottom). Thank you Lord!!



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