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1love1God1way -> 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/7/2008 5:40:37 PM)

Sad story. . .

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SAN ANGELO — The state has taken legal, temporary custody of 401 children from a polygamist compound in nearby Schleicher County, a child welfare official said today, citing allegations of abuse and that the children were at risk of harm.

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Starbucks880 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/7/2008 8:50:22 PM)

I'm concerned about the 16 year old girl whose complaint started this rolling. They did not find her on the search of the ranch. It makes me worried, since there would be motive for retaliation of some sort.




HisLamb26 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/7/2008 10:38:17 PM)

Well-I hope the find the girl, too. And thank goodness those other girls they removed will at least have some chance for a semi-normal life with more than barely legal forced "marriages" to old disgusting perverts to look forward to.




P31W -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 12:54:33 PM)

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old disgusting perverts


I feel that way too. Kinda like a camp for perverts who produce their own sex slaves.




stellaluna -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 1:55:05 PM)

I saw an interview with a former polygamist who said that is, indeed, a major draw for men. (This was a man speaking.)




HisLamb26 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 2:06:41 PM)

Well, Gee-there's a surprise! [8D]

In all my years browsing Christian Forums, I have never ONCE seen a female out here promoting polygamy. Or "arguing" for it as "another form of marriage".

Not hard to figure out exactly why that is. [:'(]




HisLamb26 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 2:08:36 PM)

Though I can't imagine what is wrong with the mothers in these cults allowing their daughters to be subjected to that kind of abuse of their sexuality. It must be a form of brainwashing-because I can't think of one self respecting female who would tolerate it in their own lives, never mind subjecting their children to it.




WesP -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 2:21:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HisLamb26

Well, Gee-there's a surprise! [8D]

In all my years browsing Christian Forums, I have never ONCE seen a female out here promoting polygamy. Or "arguing" for it as "another form of marriage".

Not hard to figure out exactly why that is. [:'(]


I have never seen a Christian of either gender espouse polygamy. [&:]




HisLamb26 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 2:35:28 PM)

Hi Wes,
Well-perhaps better terminology would be those "claiming" to be Christians. But you watch-every so often when the topic comes up here, all of sudden people we've never heard from before will log on, and start promoting the same old tired arguments. I don't know if they are regulars here who wouldn't dare post that POV under their known names, or if they are trolls from allegedly "Christian" polygamy groups who only log in to promote it.




WesP -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 2:37:49 PM)

Did you know that there are groups that promote multiple husbands as well? All of them are pretty confused and lost. [:(]




HisLamb26 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 2:42:07 PM)

No-I can't say as I've seen any "Christian" groups promoting polyandry-though I suppose they might be out there-I just haven't stumbled across them. We used to have a guy here....An alleged theologian, "swordman" or something like that, who used to post a pro-polygamy argument fairly regularly.




WesP -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 2:45:02 PM)

I remember that. [:'(]

If you get curious, just Google polyandry and get sick over the results.




HisLamb26 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 2:47:43 PM)

No Thanks-I just had lunch.

[8D]




tracydolls -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 2:48:11 PM)

I watched the news late last night about this story after seeing it here. That is just crazy. I pray they find that girl that called in. Thank God , they are safe now.

My halfsisters mom died in Jim Jones. The only reason she was not there was she was too far along pregnant to go to Guyana. I always think how do people get into it, but they do. It's sad.




1love1God1way -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 6:54:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WesSavedByGrace

I remember that. [:'(]

If you get curious, just Google polyandry and get sick over the results.


Yes. . . like christianpolygamy.com [no link added. don't know if that's against the TOS?]




Coaster -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 7:11:35 PM)

Taking care of the needs of one wife would be plenty for me. I wouldn't like having two or more women fussing at me everyday about picking up my socks, etc., off the floor.

I really feel sorry for Muslim homicide bombers who think they'll get 72 virgins. I guess it never occurred to them that within approximately 72 days they are not virgins anymore and likely to be fussing about something (because men do often deserve to be fussed at). Is that heaven or hell?




tracydolls -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/8/2008 10:27:13 PM)

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Taking care of the needs of one wife would be plenty for me. I wouldn't like having two or more women fussing at me everyday about picking up my socks, etc., off the floor.

I really feel sorry for Muslim homicide bombers who think they'll get 72 virgins. I guess it never occurred to them that within approximately 72 days they are not virgins anymore and likely to be fussing about something (because men do often deserve to be fussed at). Is that heaven or hell?




LOLOL!




1love1God1way -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/9/2008 2:37:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Coaster

Taking care of the needs of one wife would be plenty for me. I wouldn't like having two or more women fussing at me everyday about picking up my socks, etc., off the floor.

I really feel sorry for Muslim homicide bombers who think they'll get 72 virgins. I guess it never occurred to them that within approximately 72 days they are not virgins anymore and likely to be fussing about something (because men do often deserve to be fussed at). Is that heaven or hell?


Who said that all those virgins will be women anyway?

I don't think I would be willing to risk ending up with 72 ugly dudes.




buckifn -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/9/2008 11:31:09 AM)

Please pray for those children. Anytime a child is removed from their home, even homes with horrific levels of abuse, the moving process still traumatizes a child. For some it is like being adbucted and held hostage, even though the people they are now placed with are providing a safe environment for them. As horrible as it sounds from the outside to us, on the inside the life lived there at that ranch was "normal" for those kids...




3cappuccinosmom -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/9/2008 8:26:40 PM)

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As horrible as it sounds from the outside to us, on the inside the life lived there at that ranch was "normal" for those kids...


Yup. It is very frightening to be removed from what you've been told all your life is the *only* true Godly life, and to have to face the real world. I am glad they've been taken away from the sickos but the children and women have a long road ahead, recovering and normalizing.

I'm not sure I'm completely recovered after my family's cult experience, and ours wasn't nearly as bad as this group.




happyhippie -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/9/2008 10:47:48 PM)

Sounds like an overzealous over reaching power hungry government. Yes it is a cult but we will be next.




Ephesians4_32 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/9/2008 11:19:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HisLamb26

Though I can't imagine what is wrong with the mothers in these cults allowing their daughters to be subjected to that kind of abuse of their sexuality. It must be a form of brainwashing-because I can't think of one self respecting female who would tolerate it in their own lives, never mind subjecting their children to it.


It is a form of brainwashing. If you are repeatedly told that the outside world displeases God and is filled with unspeakable evil, you would feel trapped. To have once known the truth(their teachings) and then incur the wrath of God by leaving is scary. I know about repititious warnings firsthand.

Where is the sixteen-year-old? Every female in that cult has to be wondering who she is, if she's okay or if she's going to end up with the sons of perdition in outer darkness!




Ephesians4_32 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/9/2008 11:21:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: happyhippie

Sounds like an overzealous over reaching power hungry government. Yes it is a cult but we will be next.


I totally disagree with you.




Ephesians4_32 -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/9/2008 11:24:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Coaster

Taking care of the needs of one wife would be plenty for me. I wouldn't like having two or more women fussing at me everyday about picking up my socks, etc., off the floor.


With all those women trying to get just a speck of your attention, I'm sure several would want to pick up your socks. Shucks! I even do it for my husband once in a while. [;)]




1love1God1way -> RE: 400 children in custody in polygamist compound raid (4/10/2008 3:31:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: happyhippie

Sounds like an overzealous over reaching power hungry government. Yes it is a cult but we will be next.


I see your name fits you well, happyhippie.

Perhaps you disagree that it is a bad thing to force 14 year old girls into marriage with old perverts?




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