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ORIGINAL: Nothingman

Richard Dawkins should be there...

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He's seen it and written a review (which touches more on the film's attendant hullaballoo than the film itself).

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Well, you can't expect anything good to come out of the mouth of Richard Dawkins. Rarely have I seen a person so overpowered by science that they've completely lost all reason... (For further description of the man, read Romans 1: 18-32)

By contrast, the film has recently been endorsed by Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family and R.C. Sproul of Renewing Your Mind spoke very highly of the movie and Ben Stein in a recent interview.


Naturally, we should expect satan and his minions (and those infected by them) to spout disconcerting propoganda about this movie - it only aids in exposing them, and they hate that. This is Spiritual warfare afterall...

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Heres a review by Michael Shermer, who was featured in the movie (and is a religious evolutionist).

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LOL! Gotcha, so any criticism of the movie is the result of satan and his minions. Any and all inaccuracies and falsehoods that one points out in the movie are really just lies from the devil. I didn't realize Ben Stein was infallible. Aren't you a creationist anyways? That position isn't really very compatible with ID, as it exists today.

Heres a review by Michael Shermer, who was featured in the movie (and is a religious evolutionist). He has some interesting things to say about the people who were supposedly fired because of belief in ID. Link to review at scientific american. Apparently, if you want to see the "work of satan" and his minions, watch Expelled. Last time I checked, being dishonest wasn't a Christian virtue.

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LOL! Gotcha, so any criticism of the movie is the result of satan and his minions. Any and all inaccuracies and falsehoods that one points out in the movie are really just lies from the devil. I didn't realize Ben Stein was infallible. Aren't you a creationist anyways? That position isn't really very compatible with ID, as it exists today.

Heres a review by Michael Shermer, who was featured in the movie (and is a religious evolutionist). He has some interesting things to say about the people who were supposedly fired because of belief in ID. Link to review at scientific american. Apparently, if you want to see the "work of satan" and his minions, watch Expelled. Last time I checked, being dishonest wasn't a Christian virtue.

Shermer isn't a "religious evolutionist", he is an atheist; not that matters, but let's not be unclear about his perspective.

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And I think the best way to determine whether the movie is accurate or not is to first see the movie, then decide.

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I will be there, and I have gathered quite a crowd; I think it is an important and timely movie.

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ORIGINAL: drj11
Heres a review by Michael Shermer, who was featured in the movie (and is a religious evolutionist). He has some interesting things to say about the people who were supposedly fired because of belief in ID. Link to review at scientific american. Apparently, if you want to see the "work of satan" and his minions, watch Expelled. Last time I checked, being dishonest wasn't a Christian virtue.

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You know, I find it strange that some evolutionists find something supposedly wrong with someone only after it is known that s/he is an ID proponent or creationist (or, in the case of researchers, only after it is known that their research and interpretations may contradict that which is consistent with materialism. Ie: in the case of Gonzalez. They didn't find anything wrong with him before it was known he was an ID advocate, they even gave him the "Early Achievement in Research." After it was known that he was an ID advocate, they suddenly find all these things wrong with him and they deny him tenure).

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You know, I find it strange that some evolutionists find something supposedly wrong with someone only after it is known that s/he is an ID proponent or creationist (or, in the case of researchers, only after it is known that their research and interpretations may contradict that which is consistent with materialism. Ie: in the case of Gonzalez. They didn't find anything wrong with him before it was known he was an ID advocate, they even gave him the "Early Achievement in Research." After it was known that he was an ID advocate, they suddenly find all these things wrong with him and they deny him tenure).

Well, that's because the basis for suspecting one's scientific credentials is no longer whther they have a firm grasp of science, but whether they are in full agreement with all the tenets of materialism; which is part of what Expelled exposes.

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Or if they deny global warming.

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ORIGINAL: PromiseLander

Well, you can't expect anything good to come out of the mouth of Richard Dawkins. Rarely have I seen a person so overpowered by science that they've completely lost all reason... (For further description of the man, read Romans 1: 18-32)

By contrast, the film has recently been endorsed by Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family and R.C. Sproul of Renewing Your Mind spoke very highly of the movie and Ben Stein in a recent interview.

Naturally, we should expect satan and his minions (and those infected by them) to spout disconcerting propoganda about this movie - it only aids in exposing them, and they hate that. This is Spiritual warfare afterall...

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ORIGINAL: drj11
Heres a review by Michael Shermer, who was featured in the movie (and is a religious evolutionist). He has some interesting things to say about the people who were supposedly fired because of belief in ID. Link to review at scientific american. Apparently, if you want to see the "work of satan" and his minions, watch Expelled. Last time I checked, being dishonest wasn't a Christian virtue.

You know, I find it strange that some evolutionists find something supposedly wrong with someone only after it is known that s/he is an ID proponent or creationist (or, in the case of researchers, only after it is known that their research and interpretations may contradict that which is consistent with materialism. Ie: in the case of Gonzalez. They didn't find anything wrong with him before it was known he was an ID advocate, they even gave him the "Early Achievement in Research" award. After it was known that he was an ID advocate, they suddenly find all these things wrong with him and they deny him tenure).

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ORIGINAL: Bettawrekonize

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ORIGINAL: drj11
Heres a review by Michael Shermer, who was featured in the movie (and is a religious evolutionist). He has some interesting things to say about the people who were supposedly fired because of belief in ID. Link to review at scientific american. Apparently, if you want to see the "work of satan" and his minions, watch Expelled. Last time I checked, being dishonest wasn't a Christian virtue.

You know, I find it strange that some evolutionists find something supposedly wrong with someone only after it is known that s/he is an ID proponent or creationist (or, in the case of researchers, only after it is known that their research and interpretations may contradict that which is consistent with materialism. Ie: in the case of Gonzalez. They didn't find anything wrong with him before it was known he was an ID advocate, they even gave him the "Early Achievement in Research" award. After it was known that he was an ID advocate, they suddenly find all these things wrong with him and they deny him tenure).

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Well, you can't expect anything good to come out of the mouth of Richard Dawkins. Rarely have I seen a person so overpowered by science that they've completely lost all reason... (For further description of the man, read Romans 1: 18-32)

By contrast, the film has recently been endorsed by Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family and R.C. Sproul of Renewing Your Mind spoke very highly of the movie and Ben Stein in a recent interview.


Naturally, we should expect satan and his minions (and those infected by them) to spout disconcerting propoganda about this movie - it only aids in exposing them, and they hate that. This is Spiritual warfare afterall...

LOL! Gotcha, so any criticism of the movie is the result of satan and his minions. Any and all inaccuracies and falsehoods that one points out in the movie are really just lies from the devil. [8|] I didn't realize Ben Stein was infallible. Aren't you a creationist anyways? That position isn't really very compatible with ID, as it exists today.

Heres a review by Michael Shermer, who was featured in the movie (and is a religious evolutionist). He has some interesting things to say about the people who were supposedly fired because of belief in ID. Link to review at scientific american. Apparently, if you want to see the "work of satan" and his minions, watch Expelled. Last time I checked, being dishonest wasn't a Christian virtue.

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Was anything Shermer said about the production inaccurate? The audience of extras, for example?

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Cow451:
Certainly Dr. Dobson may have his faults, as we all do, but her certainly doesn't deserve your sarcasm. He has arguably done more for the cause of the unborn than any in this generation.

I feel compelled to ask the reason for your disdain?