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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 1:11:14 PM
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Dancre
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So now these same democrats say that bush lied to us and there never were any wmd's and that he took us to war for nothing.
Mr Goodwill,
The point is, of course, that the people who said these things did NOT unilaterally invade Iraq without UN favor, correct me if I am wrong.
And John Kerry's speech, by the way, is taken out of context. He said that he would support the war iff (if and only if) the weapons inspectors were allowed to finish their jobs - which, obviously they were not - unless you wish to argue that Duelfur, Clark, O'Neill - all <formerly> "the presidents men" were lying? Are you argueing that? Because their reports do NOT support what you are claiming.
Peace & God bless,
Liza, i'm hoping you read the Duelfer report: report which says that Hussain wanted to rebuild his weaponery program and was paying off the UN to dissolve the restrictions, which is why they didn't agree with the invasion. why kill the cash cow? please read his report. as for Clark, well, he's basically the laughing stock of washington. i won't put much stock in anything he says.
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 2:14:10 PM
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Goodwill
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I think the intensions speak for themselves....OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM and Iraq is a liberated country
This is not one of the reasons that we were initially given for invading Iraq. Mr. Bush did not at first say that our purpose was to depose Hussein's government and set up democracy.
how many times do i have to say this, PLEASE READ!!! WE WENT TO WAR B/C ALMOST EVERY NATION ON THE PLANET SAID HE HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!! PLEASE READ THIS!!!! geesh.
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the WAR ON TERROR is still in progress
What good is it doing?
if Iraq b/c a democratic nation, it will cripple the Al-Quada and they know it. why do you think they are there, trying to keep them from becoming democratic nation? Iraq is the center of the middle-east and that freedom is already spreading to Iran. it's a very scary time for the terrorists.
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and we have crippled Al Queda for you to say they are going strong is a lie...an absolute abomination and insult to our troops and president
So tell me: when was their organization dismantled?
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the al-quada will never be dismantled b/c of the Koran. the terrorists believe the Koran is from God and take everything literally. if you don't become a muslim, then off with your head. that's their beliefs. there are schools all over the middle east which teach such hatred and they always will. terrorism will be with us for a very long time.
AMEN AMEN AMEN.....
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 2:58:35 PM
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Goodwill
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I think the intensions speak for themselves....OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM and Iraq is a liberated country
This is not one of the reasons that we were initially given for invading Iraq. Mr. Bush did not at first say that our purpose was to depose Hussein's government and set up democracy.
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the WAR ON TERROR is still in progress
What good is it doing?
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and we have crippled Al Queda for you to say they are going strong is a lie...an absolute abomination and insult to our troops and president
So tell me: when was their organization dismantled?
I never said they were dismantled....I said CRIPPLED....and yes we went to war because every knuckle head on the face of this earth thought saddam was building WMDS...so if you want to say that we went for WMD's then fine I agree and We have found at least one...a Weapon of mass destruction...I want you to read and comprehend those words WEAPON of MASS DESTRUCTION we found a weapon that killed over 300,000 people and was inteded to Kill Many more if it wasnt dismantled That WMD's name is SADDAM HUSSEIN.....My brothers are marines and have sent me several pics of weapons they have found and pics of them going off so they can be used any more and the results were horrifying...if you think we are not making progress then you need to visit Iraq and talk to the troops and i dont mean those that are home now on the couch i mean the ones that are in that field every day....again for you to say the war on terror is not doing any good is rediculous...In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has ...
liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put
nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot,
and captured a terrorist (Saddam) who slaughtered 300,000 of his own
people.....WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 4:03:44 PM
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Goodwill
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14 More Marines Killed In Iraq
Over 1800 killed so far, with over 13,000 wounded service members...
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/art...803071909990024
Lord, I pray for the ones who have lost their loved ones. Be with the service members,too, in the loss of their comrades.
Irvin, Captain (Retired) US Army, Chaplain of American Legion Post 181
you know what...I dont expect you guys to support president Bush...Jesus did tell us that not to worry if we are hated because he was hated first...the world does not hate president Bush they hate the jesus in him...its understandable...
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 4:07:06 PM
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.the world does not hate president Bush they hate the jesus in him...its understandable... Oh, please! I reckon the world hated Saddam Hussein because of the pure light of Jesus streaming from his limpid blue eyes, right?
I don't hate Bush, but I do think he's a dimbulb deluxe.
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 4:15:51 PM
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Goodwill
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Insults are a sign for lack of intelligence.....And stop protesting Bush Jesus would not like that.... :)
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 4:31:51 PM
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I just read, all unverified, you understand, that we're spending 16 gigabucks a week on the war in Iraq. In British terms, that's 16 thousand million dollars every seven days. In effect, it's like tossing $16,000,000,000.00 into a furnace every week. Now I know that national health insurance Just Costs Too Much, but I wonder how close we would get to providing health care for all the Americans who don't have it if we used all the money that's been poured into the rathole that's called Iraq over the past few years. But I guess it's better to throw away money keeping an army in a foreign country where we're not even particluarly welcome.
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 4:34:05 PM
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Jipsah
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Insults are a sign for lack of intelligence. It's his lack of intelligence that I was commenting on.
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....And stop protesting Bush Jesus would not like that.... :) Baloney. If I believe that Bush is a ninny (and I do) I don't think our Lord has any problem with me saying so.
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 4:36:47 PM
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Goodwill
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I just read, all unverified, you understand, that we're spending 16 gigabucks a week on the war in Iraq. In British terms, that's 16 thousand million dollars every seven days. In effect, it's like tossing $16,000,000,000.00 into a furnace every week. Now I know that national health insurance Just Costs Too Much, but I wonder how close we would get to providing health care for all the Americans who don't have it if we used all the money that's been poured into the rathole that's called Iraq over the past few years. But I guess it's better to throw away money keeping an army in a foreign country where we're not even particluarly welcome.
I wonder how much your head off your shoulders is worth to a terrorist? I wonder if its worth .0000000001 gigabuck....or just a chuckle...Ok you win take your health care...but alot of good it will do you WHEN AMERICA BECOMES IRAQICA....because its been taken over by terrorist....and all because John Kerry was elected president and decided to bring the troops home and fight the fight here on American soil
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 4:40:40 PM
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Jipsah
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Saddam supported terrorism and helped fund some of the people (and families) of those who did the suicide bombings on the WTC. Kinda like the Saud family, huh? And come to think of it, some of the 9/11 murderers were actually Saudis. You're right, we had to attack... Iraq. Right.
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I dont see how you cant support that...unless of course you support terrorism
One thing we know, we've sure put a stop to terrorism in England, right?
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 4:49:19 PM
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Goodwill
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Saddam supported terrorism and helped fund some of the people (and families) of those who did the suicide bombings on the WTC. Kinda like the Saud family, huh? And come to think of it, some of the 9/11 murderers were actually Saudis. You're right, we had to attack... Iraq. Right.
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I dont see how you cant support that...unless of course you support terrorism
One thing we know, we've sure put a stop to terrorism in England, right?
OH HO HO....so now this has become the war to help out England ...First of all I will not say this again GO READ THE REST OF THE THREAD...We are not at war Against Iraq we are at war WITH Iraq...The Iraqi people have been very helpful and wanted to see Saddam out of power as well...moving on to the next thing....We did not attack Iraq We attacked terrorist and infiltrated their camps and found several terrorist training camp and torture grounds...
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if you dont understand something then please allow me to help you
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 5:17:48 PM
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how many times do i have to say this, PLEASE READ!!! WE WENT TO WAR B/C ALMOST EVERY NATION ON THE PLANET SAID HE HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!! PLEASE READ THIS!!!! geesh.
Stop yelling. I do not get into shouting matches. Btw, there were no WMDs.
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if Iraq b/c a democratic nation, it will cripple the Al-Quada and they know it.
But this was not stated as an objective until after we invaded and found no WMDs.
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the al-quada will never be dismantled b/c of the Koran. the terrorists believe the Koran is from God and take everything literally. if you don't become a muslim, then off with your head. that's their beliefs. there are schools all over the middle east which teach such hatred and they always will. terrorism will be with us for a very long time.
Then how are we supposed to end it?
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 5:24:55 PM
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Genuflect
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We are not at war Against Iraq we are at war WITH Iraq...
Yes, I am sure that the 10-30,000 dead Iraqis appreciate it.
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 5:27:00 PM
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Goodwill
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I never said they were dismantled....I said CRIPPLED
Not even. London???? . . .
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....and yes we went to war because every knuckle head on the face of this earth thought saddam was building WMDS
 You said it- I didn't!
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In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has ...
liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put
nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot,
None of which has anything to do with the war in Iraq.
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and captured a terrorist (Saddam) who slaughtered 300,000 of his own
people
And nothing is happening to him, or to Osama.
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.....WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS
So you keep saying . . .
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I just wanna smack you...lol... what do you mean it had nothig to do with Iraq...WE LIBERATED IRAQ
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 5:54:34 PM
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Jipsah
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.you have no say what so ever if you continue to believe that Iraq has no link to Terrorism.. Sure they did, that part of the world was and is rife with terrorists. BUT... did Iraq under Hussein have as much to do with promoting global terror as did Libya, and Iran, and Syria, and Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, and such like? Nope, it didn't. Of course, the silliest "link" was between Iraq and 9-11 (as examplified by the idiotic song "Have You Forgotten?"). You get a few thousand people murdered at the orders of a Saudi sheik, with hijack teams consisting ot Saudis and Egyptians, so what do you do? Easy - attack Iraq!
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 5:56:36 PM
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Jipsah
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The war in Iraq is wrong.We are not in Iraq for the reasons we were led to believe,Before the war started. I don't think we have any clear idea at all why we're there anymore. What's the objective we're trying to accomplish? How will we know when we've won?
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 6:12:38 PM
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Are you Insane??? Clever retort there, I'll have to remember it.
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What do you think we went to war for Well, it was either to wage a War on Terrorism, or to destroy Hussein's "weapons of mass destruction", or to effect a "regime change", or to Liberate The Iraqi People. Take yer choice, it changes from day to day. What it ends up maning to the American people is that we have an increasingly expensive albatross hanging around our necks, with no expectation of getting rid of it any time soon.
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 6:15:30 PM
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how frightening is it to think that some madman has weapons and wants to kill us all especially after 9/11 and seeing 5,000 people instantly vaporized? How frightening to think that our little adventure in Iraq has done nothing whatsoever to mitigate sich a threat, and may in fact have made it worse?
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then reports come in of terrorists living in the US among us, who work side by side with us and their main goal, to exterminate American citizens. And we deal with them by - wait for it - attacking Iraq. Right.
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 6:18:58 PM
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Iraq is a liberated country Yep. Assuming that you considering being under foreign miltary rule, enforced by machine-gun toting soldiers, who have the right to do as they please, "liberated".
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the WAR ON TERROR is still in progress And will be for as long as the evil minions of Emmanuel Goldstein, opps, I mean Osama bin Laden, are still at large.
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 6:23:43 PM
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I wonder how much your head off your shoulders is worth to a terrorist? Considering that it's my head, it ought to be worth a fairly weighty sum.
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.Ok you win take your health care...but alot of good it will do you WHEN AMERICA BECOMES IRAQICA. Yeah, that has been my fear all along, that Iraq would invade and conquer the US and have us all speaking Arabic, eating hummus, and reading al Quran. Terrified of that, yessiree. Of course, no chance of me ever having a heart attack or cancer or a serious accident. That's just too far-fetched to consider. After all, we have to maintain our grasp on reality.
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.and all because John Kerry was elected president and decided to bring the troops home and fight the fight here on American soil Fight whom, exactly?
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 6:27:12 PM
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Jipsah
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OH HO HO....so now this has become the war to help out England OH HO HO, it was supposed to be a War On Terrorism, wasn't it? Weren't the folks who blew up all that stuff in Blighty terrorists, or were they just over-exuberant college kids?
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We are not at war Against Iraq we are at war WITH Iraq. Now that they're under our miltary rule, yeah, I reckon you could say that. Iraq is now a US satrapy.
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We did not attack Iraq What was all that bombing and shooting about, then? It sure looked like an attack, especially to the people who were enjoying its effects.
Newspeak, anyone?
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RE: War in Iraq - 8/3/2005 8:05:40 PM
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