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Isaiah29 -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/13/2008 3:05:04 PM)
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ORIGINAL: csl7037
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ORIGINAL: todd_t
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So tell me, how is SS and Medicare working so for?
So far, despite inherent problems in system, both benefit packages are moving forward, as are those benefits paid to US military vets with funds provided by American taxpayers.
Should we pull the plug on those as well?
Secondly, are you under the opinion the the income/state/property tax is "thievery" as well?
Just trying to figure out where you're coming from.
moving forward? moving toward total collapse, you mean! military benefits are much more to be likened to employee benefits in a corporate setting...it's their benefits package and it's what we need to give them to keep them (although I don't know why they do what they do for the little reward they get). How can you honestly compare military and veterans benefits to Social Security and Medicare??
And, yes, my dh is in the other room now going over our taxes one last time - feels very mucg like someone has a gun to our heads, I have to say.
And, for the record, I think Hillary is just as much a socialist and a Marxist and while, like Obama people aren't smart enough to recognize that and to see her for the danger she is either. But, unlike Obama, she's got enough other irritating qualities that people aren't being snowed or hypnotized by her en mass like they are Obama. Why target Obama? Because if you are able to see him for what he is it's absolutely maddening to see people flocking to him like the Pide Piper!
Greeting csl7037,
I agree that Hillary is every bit as much a socialist/Marxist that Obama is, and yes, she does lack Obama's charisma to "hoodwink and bamboozle" the voter into thinking she's not. What makes Obama so dangerous is that he is such an effective liar, much as Bill Clinton was. Hillary seems to lack the oratory skills Obama possesses, being able to connect with people on an emotional level so they don't look too deeply into his real agenda, or discover his real persona. Obama tells people what they want to hear, eg. hope and change, unity and togetherness, but his record in the Illinois State Legislature and his brief tenure in the Senate speak otherwise.
Obama is all for dividing the country along class, race, and partisanship lines; working poor vs corporate elite, black victimization vs. white oppression, liberal (or "progressive" as he prefers to be called) vs. conservative, democrat vs republican, pro-choice vs. pro-life. In all these instances it has been Obama's way or the highway, there has been no compromise, no middle ground.
When the Illinois State Legislature attempted to pass the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, a bill which would have prevented babies which were born alive to be killed through starvation or other means, (otherwise known as live birth abortions), Obama opposed it, even after the US Senate passed identical legislation. His rationale was that he did not like the way the bill was worded. (see Jill Stanek's article in World Net Daily on Obama' 10 stated reasons for rejecting the bill:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=45553.
Since Obama has been in the Senate, his voting record (such as it is since he is seldom ever there) has been strictly partisan, and is the most liberal in the entire Senate, and that is saying a lot. In every instance he favors greater government control over all aspects of industry and individuality, meaning larger government and greater redistribution of wealth, mostly from the shrinking middle class.
Because of their various abilities to shelter their wealth through foundations and trusts, the wealthy elite will remain largely untouched by the redistribution mechanisms (taxes), nevertheless most will still be at the mercy of an expanded federal bureacracy, mandatory cap and trade policies resulting in higher energy costs, ethanol subsidies resulting in higher food costs, higher taxes used to subsidize "green technologies", higher taxes to pay for universal health care and higher education, plus mandatory community service. This is boilerplate marxism and it is not surprising in the least that Obama is all for it. What does surprise me is that so few people in the media seem to pick up on it. In Obama's perfect world "all pigs are created equal. only some pigs are created more equal than others" (George Orwell, 1984)
In Christ,
Ariel
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