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Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 1:16:24 AM   
StephenJ


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Okay so like most stories on this forum it begins this way...there's this girl who I met about two years ago in college. We like many of the same things, I felt like we can talk on an equal level, and in general whenever we do actually talk we can do so for a long time with ease. Then of course there's the fact that I thought she was beutiful. It's not suprising that I fell pretty hard for this person.
It's a long story but essentially I decided that I had to let her know. I made it known to this wonderful person that I really liked her alot (maybe in a way that could have been more subtle), and she pretty much told me that she was not interested. Infact when I gave her flowers, she at first seemed suprised, then made me swear that I would only give them to her if they were given out of purely platonic feelings. Infact she told me that she couldn't accept them if I was giving them to her as a romantic gesture.
After that incident we saw eachother a couple more times, when I visited my old school, and every once in a while we exchanged emails. The first time we saw each other after the above mentioned incident she pulled me aside and we had a nice talk. She told me that she thanked me for being honest, but that she wasn't ready for a relationship. She also told me that even if she was ready to get involved with someone she couldn't date me because we're to similar and she needs someone that's the opposite of her. Later I suggested that maybe we should date other people, and even sent her the links so some online dating sites. She agreed that this was a good idea, but as far as I know never signed up for any.
I always felt like there was a certain distance between us that wasn't the result of us just being busy, and with some proding on my part she eventually confirmed what I suspected. Months later she was uncomfortable around me even though we were both suppousedly patching things up. I can totally understand that, but I have to wonder if it's always just going to hang there.

We haven't talked since January when we had a real honest heart to heart (over AIM mind you) in which I let it be known that at the time of the incident I wasn't trying to attack her but that I was trying to let her know that I loved her. However, when I came by the school after that conversation she was nowhere to be found. A man we both know at Northridge told me, upon getting there that she had just left. I later had reason to believe that it was because she found out that I was coming by that she bolted out of the classroom. I'm not quite sure how to deal I guess.

So my question is this, is it even possible to mend this kind of relationship? Is it wise to keep trying, or should I just let her pass out of my life. Is it even possible to be friends with someone that you're even remotely attracted to? I've tried moving on, and have even started being interested in new people, but I'm worried that this thing is just going to hang there.

Thanks in advance everyone.

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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 1:44:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: StephenJ

Okay so like most stories on this forum it begins this way...there's this girl who I met about two years ago in college. We like many of the same things, I felt like we can talk on an equal level, and in general whenever we do actually talk we can do so for a long time with ease. Then of course there's the fact that I thought she was beutiful. It's not suprising that I fell pretty hard for this person.
It's a long story but essentially I decided that I had to let her know. I made it known to this wonderful person that I really liked her alot (maybe in a way that could have been more subtle), and she pretty much told me that she was not interested. Infact when I gave her flowers, she at first seemed suprised, then made me swear that I would only give them to her if they were given out of purely platonic feelings. Infact she told me that she couldn't accept them if I was giving them to her as a romantic gesture.
After that incident we saw eachother a couple more times, when I visited my old school, and every once in a while we exchanged emails. The first time we saw each other after the above mentioned incident she pulled me aside and we had a nice talk. She told me that she thanked me for being honest, but that she wasn't ready for a relationship. She also told me that even if she was ready to get involved with someone she couldn't date me because we're to similar and she needs someone that's the opposite of her. Later I suggested that maybe we should date other people, and even sent her the links so some online dating sites. She agreed that this was a good idea, but as far as I know never signed up for any.
I always felt like there was a certain distance between us that wasn't the result of us just being busy, and with some proding on my part she eventually confirmed what I suspected. Months later she was uncomfortable around me even though we were both suppousedly patching things up. I can totally understand that, but I have to wonder if it's always just going to hang there.

We haven't talked since January when we had a real honest heart to heart (over AIM mind you) in which I let it be known that at the time of the incident I wasn't trying to attack her but that I was trying to let her know that I loved her. However, when I came by the school after that conversation she was nowhere to be found. A man we both know at Northridge told me, upon getting there that she had just left. I later had reason to believe that it was because she found out that I was coming by that she bolted out of the classroom. I'm not quite sure how to deal I guess.

So my question is this, is it even possible to mend this kind of relationship? Is it wise to keep trying, or should I just let her pass out of my life. Is it even possible to be friends with someone that you're even remotely attracted to? I've tried moving on, and have even started being interested in new people, but I'm worried that this thing is just going to hang there.

Thanks in advance everyone.


I'm confused. The start of this comment seemed you were friends, then you gave her flowers and she didnt want them unless it meant nothing but friendship. Then you said you suggested to date other people?
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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 1:46:04 AM   
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sorry I sent the comment too soon- so let me get this correct- did you dated before or not?
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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 3:00:12 AM   
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So my question is this, is it even possible to mend this kind of relationship? Is it wise to keep trying, or should I just let her pass out of my life. Is it even possible to be friends with someone that you're even remotely attracted to? I've tried moving on, and have even started being interested in new people, but I'm worried that this thing is just going to hang there.


Honestly, my gut tells me you should count your losses and move on in terms of hopes of a relationship. Can you still be friends? Yes, it is possible, but I wouldn't get my hopes up of too much more.

As much as we would like it to be otherwise, this is real life, not some cheesy Sandra Bullock movie.

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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 9:51:25 AM   
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I am sorry this didn't work out for you but she isn't interested and has let you know several times.
There are a few things you could have done differently but that's not important now. You should move on and let her do the same.
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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 2:16:10 PM   
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So my question is this, is it even possible to mend this kind of relationship?Is it wise to keep trying, or should I just let her pass out of my life. Is it even possible to be friends with someone that you're even remotely attracted to? I've tried moving on, and have even started being interested in new people, but I'm worried that this thing is just going to hang there.


yes you could possibly be friends again, but thats tough and only works if both are willing to do that.
I think it would be wise to move on, and if you are still having trouble pray about it.

Im sorry things didnt work out, but you took a chance, as much as it hurt to be rejected atleast you want wonder about it anymore.


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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 3:54:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: StephenJ

We like many of the same things, I felt like we can talk on an equal level, and in general whenever we do actually talk we can do so for a long time with ease. Then of course there's the fact that I thought she was beutiful. It's not suprising that I fell pretty hard for this person.


I'm afraid you aren't going to like my response, but there's something here that can help you if you can get past my brusque words. I'm sorry I can't say it smoother, but I don't know how. I'm hoping it will help you anyway.

You fell hard for her. That's another way of saying you didn't guard your heart (Prov. 4:23). That was the first problem.

quote:


It's a long story but essentially I decided that I had to let her know <>
she pretty much told me that she was not interested.


OK, she told you where you stood. The second problem was you didn't honor her wishes. So you did this for your benefit, not for hers.

quote:

She told me that she thanked me for being honest, but that she wasn't ready for a relationship. She also told me that even if she was ready to get involved with someone she couldn't date me


She told you again.


quote:

I always felt like there was a certain distance between us that wasn't the result of us just being busy, and with some proding on my part she eventually confirmed what I suspected.


And again.

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I have to wonder if it's always just going to hang there.


She's probably pretty creeped out by your disrespecting her wishes, and she may be scared. I'm surprised you haven't gotten a phone call from her father.

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We haven't talked since January when we had a real honest heart to heart (over AIM mind you) in which I let it be known that at the time of the incident I wasn't trying to attack her but that I was trying to let her know that I loved her.


This may seem old-fashioned to you, but some people respect this: a man shouldn't tell a woman he loves her unless it's followed by "Will you marry me?" She doesn't even want to date you, so she's backing down and you seem to be escalating. She may be considering a restraining order by now.

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when I came by the school after that conversation she was nowhere to be found. <> she found out that I was coming by that she bolted out of the classroom.


She's told you over and over to back off and you keep coming on to her anyway. This is getting really creepy.

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So my question is this, is it even possible to mend this kind of relationship? Is it wise to keep trying, or should I just let her pass out of my life.


I'd let her go. She's not giving you any choice. You've disrespected her and run roughshod over her feelings, and have made courting-types of comments and actions when she keeps trying to disengage you.

A woman in a marriage relationship is totally vunerable to her husband and has to trust him to look out for her, for her feelings and well-being. It shows up in how he treats her before they even get serious. You aren't doing this for her and she is running for the hills. If she were my daughter, my husband would have already had a serious talk with you.

Are you waiting for God's choice for you? Keep preparing for marriage, so when she shows up in His perfect timing, you'll be ready. That means your heart is pure, your status is ready to take on paying bills and providing a place for you guys to live, and you've been checking with God about whether she's the one or you have to wait and grow some more. She might or might not be beautiful, but God is the Master Matchmaker, and you won't be disappointed! God bless.

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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 4:21:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: deermousie

quote:

ORIGINAL: StephenJ

We like many of the same things, I felt like we can talk on an equal level, and in general whenever we do actually talk we can do so for a long time with ease. Then of course there's the fact that I thought she was beutiful. It's not suprising that I fell pretty hard for this person.


I'm afraid you aren't going to like my response, but there's something here that can help you if you can get past my brusque words. I'm sorry I can't say it smoother, but I don't know how. I'm hoping it will help you anyway.

You fell hard for her. That's another way of saying you didn't guard your heart (Prov. 4:23). That was the first problem.

quote:


It's a long story but essentially I decided that I had to let her know <>
she pretty much told me that she was not interested.


OK, she told you where you stood. The second problem was you didn't honor her wishes. So you did this for your benefit, not for hers.

quote:

She told me that she thanked me for being honest, but that she wasn't ready for a relationship. She also told me that even if she was ready to get involved with someone she couldn't date me


She told you again.


quote:

I always felt like there was a certain distance between us that wasn't the result of us just being busy, and with some proding on my part she eventually confirmed what I suspected.


And again.

quote:

I have to wonder if it's always just going to hang there.


She's probably pretty creeped out by your disrespecting her wishes, and she may be scared. I'm surprised you haven't gotten a phone call from her father.

quote:

We haven't talked since January when we had a real honest heart to heart (over AIM mind you) in which I let it be known that at the time of the incident I wasn't trying to attack her but that I was trying to let her know that I loved her.


This may seem old-fashioned to you, but some people respect this: a man shouldn't tell a woman he loves her unless it's followed by "Will you marry me?" She doesn't even want to date you, so she's backing down and you seem to be escalating. She may be considering a restraining order by now.

quote:

when I came by the school after that conversation she was nowhere to be found. <> she found out that I was coming by that she bolted out of the classroom.


She's told you over and over to back off and you keep coming on to her anyway. This is getting really creepy.

quote:

So my question is this, is it even possible to mend this kind of relationship? Is it wise to keep trying, or should I just let her pass out of my life.


I'd let her go. She's not giving you any choice. You've disrespected her and run roughshod over her feelings, and have made courting-types of comments and actions when she keeps trying to disengage you.

A woman in a marriage relationship is totally vunerable to her husband and has to trust him to look out for her, for her feelings and well-being. It shows up in how he treats her before they even get serious. You aren't doing this for her and she is running for the hills. If she were my daughter, my husband would have already had a serious talk with you.

Are you waiting for God's choice for you? Keep preparing for marriage, so when she shows up in His perfect timing, you'll be ready. That means your heart is pure, your status is ready to take on paying bills and providing a place for you guys to live, and you've been checking with God about whether she's the one or you have to wait and grow some more. She might or might not be beautiful, but God is the Master Matchmaker, and you won't be disappointed! God bless.


Sorry, let me clarify.

At the time she was borrowing some things from me so I had to come back and get them from her. I also still have other friends at the school who I come and visit, as well as being involved with certain clubs there.

She tells me that she wanted to toss the flowers that I gave her, but her parents encouraged her to keep them. Odd I know. Truth be told in the two years that we've known one another I've never met her parents.

The fact that we were still exchanging emails, and occasionally talking on the phone tells me that she doesn't hate me. She even told me that she'd be up for eventually hanging out with me provided another mutual friend of ours was there. I don't know if she was just saying that to be nice though.

And no we never dated, we went out for dinner and a movie one night but I don't think it was a date.

< Message edited by StephenJ -- 4/18/2008 5:06:10 PM >


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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 5:36:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: StephenJ

Okay so like most stories on this forum it begins this way...there's this girl who I met about two years ago in college. We like many of the same things, I felt like we can talk on an equal level, and in general whenever we do actually talk we can do so for a long time with ease. Then of course there's the fact that I thought she was beutiful. It's not suprising that I fell pretty hard for this person.
It's a long story but essentially I decided that I had to let her know. I made it known to this wonderful person that I really liked her alot (maybe in a way that could have been more subtle), and she pretty much told me that she was not interested. Infact when I gave her flowers, she at first seemed suprised, then made me swear that I would only give them to her if they were given out of purely platonic feelings. Infact she told me that she couldn't accept them if I was giving them to her as a romantic gesture.
After that incident we saw eachother a couple more times, when I visited my old school, and every once in a while we exchanged emails. The first time we saw each other after the above mentioned incident she pulled me aside and we had a nice talk. She told me that she thanked me for being honest, but that she wasn't ready for a relationship. She also told me that even if she was ready to get involved with someone she couldn't date me because we're to similar and she needs someone that's the opposite of her. Later I suggested that maybe we should date other people, and even sent her the links so some online dating sites. She agreed that this was a good idea, but as far as I know never signed up for any.
I always felt like there was a certain distance between us that wasn't the result of us just being busy, and with some proding on my part she eventually confirmed what I suspected. Months later she was uncomfortable around me even though we were both suppousedly patching things up. I can totally understand that, but I have to wonder if it's always just going to hang there.

We haven't talked since January when we had a real honest heart to heart (over AIM mind you) in which I let it be known that at the time of the incident I wasn't trying to attack her but that I was trying to let her know that I loved her. However, when I came by the school after that conversation she was nowhere to be found. A man we both know at Northridge told me, upon getting there that she had just left. I later had reason to believe that it was because she found out that I was coming by that she bolted out of the classroom. I'm not quite sure how to deal I guess.

So my question is this, is it even possible to mend this kind of relationship? Is it wise to keep trying, or should I just let her pass out of my life. Is it even possible to be friends with someone that you're even remotely attracted to? I've tried moving on, and have even started being interested in new people, but I'm worried that this thing is just going to hang there.

Thanks in advance everyone.



I've been her place. Its like I'm reading my own actions. Here's what I think- she thinks your great a friend. But the fact that she told you-"Infact she told me that she couldn't accept them if I was giving them to her as a romantic gesture. " And "she pulled me aside and we had a nice talk. She told me that she thanked me for being honest, but that she wasn't ready for a relationship. She also told me that even if she was ready to get involved with someone she couldn't date me because we're to similar and she needs someone that's the opposite of her." She is saying in the nicest way it never gonna happen. And I think she would of been friends with you if you didn't say-"Later I suggested that maybe we should date other people, and even sent her the links so some online dating sites. She agreed that this was a good idea, but as far as I know never signed up for any." Being that situation before freaked me out. Sorry to tell you. I thought how can this guy say that when there is nothing going on. We are just friends. And it made me not want anything he gave me. No matter how ppl or my parents said to be nice. It made me not like him more. I kind of started to think he was scary. And dont use the word relationship-it should be friendship. You seem great like my friend was. I do care about him but as a friend. I just wish he could be my friend. But hes actions said otherwise and I was afraid to led him on. So if she feels anything like me I say make new friends or get over your feelings for her. because it messed up our riendship. no matter what did I always hurt him coz he ecpected more than I would give. Sorry Stephen- but now he found this great girl and is very happy.
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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/18/2008 8:15:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FaithLegacy

quote:

ORIGINAL: StephenJ

Okay so like most stories on this forum it begins this way...there's this girl who I met about two years ago in college. We like many of the same things, I felt like we can talk on an equal level, and in general whenever we do actually talk we can do so for a long time with ease. Then of course there's the fact that I thought she was beutiful. It's not suprising that I fell pretty hard for this person.
It's a long story but essentially I decided that I had to let her know. I made it known to this wonderful person that I really liked her alot (maybe in a way that could have been more subtle), and she pretty much told me that she was not interested. Infact when I gave her flowers, she at first seemed suprised, then made me swear that I would only give them to her if they were given out of purely platonic feelings. Infact she told me that she couldn't accept them if I was giving them to her as a romantic gesture.
After that incident we saw eachother a couple more times, when I visited my old school, and every once in a while we exchanged emails. The first time we saw each other after the above mentioned incident she pulled me aside and we had a nice talk. She told me that she thanked me for being honest, but that she wasn't ready for a relationship. She also told me that even if she was ready to get involved with someone she couldn't date me because we're to similar and she needs someone that's the opposite of her. Later I suggested that maybe we should date other people, and even sent her the links so some online dating sites. She agreed that this was a good idea, but as far as I know never signed up for any.
I always felt like there was a certain distance between us that wasn't the result of us just being busy, and with some proding on my part she eventually confirmed what I suspected. Months later she was uncomfortable around me even though we were both suppousedly patching things up. I can totally understand that, but I have to wonder if it's always just going to hang there.

We haven't talked since January when we had a real honest heart to heart (over AIM mind you) in which I let it be known that at the time of the incident I wasn't trying to attack her but that I was trying to let her know that I loved her. However, when I came by the school after that conversation she was nowhere to be found. A man we both know at Northridge told me, upon getting there that she had just left. I later had reason to believe that it was because she found out that I was coming by that she bolted out of the classroom. I'm not quite sure how to deal I guess.

So my question is this, is it even possible to mend this kind of relationship? Is it wise to keep trying, or should I just let her pass out of my life. Is it even possible to be friends with someone that you're even remotely attracted to? I've tried moving on, and have even started being interested in new people, but I'm worried that this thing is just going to hang there.

Thanks in advance everyone.



I've been her place. Its like I'm reading my own actions. Here's what I think- she thinks your great a friend. But the fact that she told you-"Infact she told me that she couldn't accept them if I was giving them to her as a romantic gesture. " And "she pulled me aside and we had a nice talk. She told me that she thanked me for being honest, but that she wasn't ready for a relationship. She also told me that even if she was ready to get involved with someone she couldn't date me because we're to similar and she needs someone that's the opposite of her." She is saying in the nicest way it never gonna happen. And I think she would of been friends with you if you didn't say-"Later I suggested that maybe we should date other people, and even sent her the links so some online dating sites. She agreed that this was a good idea, but as far as I know never signed up for any." Being that situation before freaked me out. Sorry to tell you. I thought how can this guy say that when there is nothing going on. We are just friends. And it made me not want anything he gave me. No matter how ppl or my parents said to be nice. It made me not like him more. I kind of started to think he was scary. And dont use the word relationship-it should be friendship. You seem great like my friend was. I do care about him but as a friend. I just wish he could be my friend. But hes actions said otherwise and I was afraid to led him on. So if she feels anything like me I say make new friends or get over your feelings for her. because it messed up our riendship. no matter what did I always hurt him coz he ecpected more than I would give. Sorry Stephen- but now he found this great girl and is very happy.


Probably pushed her into being that honest, I felt like even though she was telling me that everything was fine with us, that I wasn't getting the whole picture. She eventually told me that even though I didn't do anything wrong, my actions made her feel like a deer caught in the headlights.

I think we're both the kind of people who over think these sort of things.

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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/19/2008 12:03:01 AM   
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Dear Stephen,

Been there, done that. In my case it was squelched for good when the girl finally said, "You know, you're a nice guy and all that, but there's something about you I just can't stand."

Oh. THAT'S what she meant when there was always something else she had to do, etc.... It was hard, but at least it was clear. I wished her well then, and I still do.

Stephen, give up on this girl. Confess your sin and repent (you're supposed to protect the innocent, not stalk them), and move on.

Want to know the REAL answer to your problem? I'm telling you this based on fifteen years of trying to get this girl or that girl to be interested in me... and in a successful marriage after I put this into practice (20 year anniversary last month).

The real way to do this is to figure out what sort of woman you want to marry, and become the kind of person she would be interested in. Then, you'll automatically attract that kind of woman, and it will be REAL instead of the results of a marketing exercise. And you may wind up with this particular person or another, but any who would be attracted to you at that point would probably be a good match.

That's from a human perspective (since that's all we really have in front of us). But from Scripture we know that God orders all things, and He's going to put you with the one He wants you with. Note that this could be for your blessing (if you seek Him and relax and let Him accomplish His purposes as I and others on this list are encouraging you to do), OR FOR YOUR CURSING: I don't mean this to be a slam, but rather because I've seen it in my own life.

In my case I wanted more credit, against the clear teaching of Scripture and the good advice of my wife and godly counselors. What did God do? He let me have the credit - and we've suffered financially ever since. His chastisement for me (and indeed it provided an EXCELLENT education) was to merely let me have the thing that I wanted. Another example would be when at 3 years old, my sister wanted to go play in the snow barefooted (we had driven to the mountains, and she had never seen the stuff before): after protracted battle with my mom about the boots, my dad said, "Let her go ahead without them." As you can imagine, she was back to the car for her boots in short order! Soooo, don't push the "I want THIS girl!" issue with God: He may give you what you want instead of what He recommends, and it may not turn out as you've imagined!

Trust God to build you up into who you are supposed to be. Seek Him and obey. THAT'S your job, not "trying to win Miss Right". Sorry to say it, Stephen, but the story you told of your behavior suggests that you are a LONG way off from where you need to be in order to be married, and are also not prepared for any relationship beyond the cup-of-coffee-at-the-cafeteria level. Is that a slam? Not really: I was there for a long time, too (as was nearly everyone else). Work on becoming who God has made you to be, and He will bring about His plan for you, for your blessing.

Praying for you...
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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/19/2008 5:52:22 AM   
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Dear Stephen,

Been there, done that. In my case it was squelched for good when the girl finally said, "You know, you're a nice guy and all that, but there's something about you I just can't stand."

Oh. THAT'S what she meant when there was always something else she had to do, etc.... It was hard, but at least it was clear. I wished her well then, and I still do.

Stephen, give up on this girl. Confess your sin and repent (you're supposed to protect the innocent, not stalk them), and move on.

Want to know the REAL answer to your problem? I'm telling you this based on fifteen years of trying to get this girl or that girl to be interested in me... and in a successful marriage after I put this into practice (20 year anniversary last month).

The real way to do this is to figure out what sort of woman you want to marry, and become the kind of person she would be interested in. Then, you'll automatically attract that kind of woman, and it will be REAL instead of the results of a marketing exercise. And you may wind up with this particular person or another, but any who would be attracted to you at that point would probably be a good match.

That's from a human perspective (since that's all we really have in front of us). But from Scripture we know that God orders all things, and He's going to put you with the one He wants you with. Note that this could be for your blessing (if you seek Him and relax and let Him accomplish His purposes as I and others on this list are encouraging you to do), OR FOR YOUR CURSING: I don't mean this to be a slam, but rather because I've seen it in my own life.

In my case I wanted more credit, against the clear teaching of Scripture and the good advice of my wife and godly counselors. What did God do? He let me have the credit - and we've suffered financially ever since. His chastisement for me (and indeed it provided an EXCELLENT education) was to merely let me have the thing that I wanted. Another example would be when at 3 years old, my sister wanted to go play in the snow barefooted (we had driven to the mountains, and she had never seen the stuff before): after protracted battle with my mom about the boots, my dad said, "Let her go ahead without them." As you can imagine, she was back to the car for her boots in short order! Soooo, don't push the "I want THIS girl!" issue with God: He may give you what you want instead of what He recommends, and it may not turn out as you've imagined!

Trust God to build you up into who you are supposed to be. Seek Him and obey. THAT'S your job, not "trying to win Miss Right". Sorry to say it, Stephen, but the story you told of your behavior suggests that you are a LONG way off from where you need to be in order to be married, and are also not prepared for any relationship beyond the cup-of-coffee-at-the-cafeteria level. Is that a slam? Not really: I was there for a long time, too (as was nearly everyone else). Work on becoming who God has made you to be, and He will bring about His plan for you, for your blessing.

Praying for you...


I've never believed that I should have to change who I am to be with anyone. Infact at one point I told her that she shouldn't apologize to me. I told her that she deserves not to have to settle for someone she doesn't want, and I deserve to be with someone who can feel for me the way I feel for her. But you're probably right about many of the things you said there.

The other lesson I learned from this is that despite what movies and TV shows tell you it's a really, really, really bad idea to be attracted to someone you are close friends with. I've pretty much learned that the whole ladder theory thing is grounded in some truth. I now think it's a pretty wise idea to keep people you're interested in and people you like as friends in very segregated areas of your life.

My question though is whether my friendship with this person can ever be repaired.

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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/19/2008 10:04:51 AM   
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Probably pushed her into being that honest, I felt like even though she was telling me that everything was fine with us, that I wasn't getting the whole picture. She eventually told me that even though I didn't do anything wrong, my actions made her feel like a deer caught in the headlights.


"Deer caught in the headlights" was exactly what I thought from your first post. You gave flowers to someone who told you they weren't interested. That looks like you are trying to change their mind.
You suggested you both date other people when you weren't even dating her and that could appear controlling.
It's not odd that you haven't met her parents, you are not in a relationship.
You read too much into talking on the phone and E-mails, she is simply being polite.
Don't believe what you see on TV about relationships. The Bible is a better source of information.
Last, you don't need to change who you are, but don't expect her to either.

If you want to stay friends, you need to slow down and back off, however, it doesn't sound like you will ever be more than that.
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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/19/2008 8:18:06 PM   
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So my question is this, is it even possible to mend this kind of relationship?

Yes, but it will take time and honesty. Stop trying to make something happen. She told you no on so many occasions and in so many ways that I can understand her uneasiness. Be honest with yourself. Admit, that she is not interested. Ask for forgiveness and give her some space. Then perhaps in time (if you truly ONLY seek to be her friend), you can rekindle your friendship.

Hope everything goes well for you!
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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/20/2008 4:47:03 AM   
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It's interesting, she told me that she didn't feel like I did anything really wrong but that she wished I had talked to her about how I felt rather than just doing something so suddenly.

I'm pretty sure she understood that when I said "relationship" I didn't mean a dating sort of thing. I believe she understood that I meant our interaction over the year and a half that we'd known one another. And our other mutual friend who we always use to hang out with met her parents fairly soon after they met. She even took her on a family trip to Vegas.

Thanks everyone, your honesty is really appreciated and though I've told myself these things a bunch of times it's helpful to hear it from others. Maybe it'll help it sink in.

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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/20/2008 3:39:08 PM   
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Stephen:

I think you should move ahead. She isn't interested in a relatioship, and it seems she wants to left alone. You can't make a relatioship if she doesn't want to be apart of one. No one can make anyone else love them , it just doesn't work, and that isn' the way it is supposed to work. It would be one sided to say the least.

I'm sorry it didn't work out for you the way you wanted it to.

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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/21/2008 11:41:30 AM   
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I have to agree with others as well..She is not interested in you as a friend...I suspect that there is someone else in the picture...

I do not feel you will be able to mend this because of your feelings for her and her only interested in you is as friend...You tried...perhaps too fast but nevertheless you know where you stand now...leave her be..sorry
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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/25/2008 11:40:03 AM   
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Sorry ..I agree with rest. Maybe the feelings you have come from the fact you can be honest with her. A true friend is one you can share with and talk about anything. The connection maybe not love but a true friendship. This deep connection you could be misreading as Love. Be yourself but ask yourself what causes you to be so attracted to her. What need does she fill in you ?
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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/27/2008 5:48:15 PM   
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Sorry ..I agree with rest. Maybe the feelings you have come from the fact you can be honest with her. A true friend is one you can share with and talk about anything. The connection maybe not love but a true friendship. This deep connection you could be misreading as Love. Be yourself but ask yourself what causes you to be so attracted to her. What need does she fill in you ?


I very well might have to do just that.

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RE: Is it even possible to fix this relationship? - 4/29/2008 12:49:48 AM