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ladyingrace1979 -> problem with one twin (4/23/2008 12:56:37 PM)

Hi,

This may get long, I appologise ahead of time. I have identical girl twins. They have learning disabilites and have always been in special education classes. They are in 4th grade but function about 1st grade level. They have been with the same teacher since first grade. They have always been close in accademics, sometimes one would be a little ahead but they always caught up, sort of a back and forth thing. Until this year. Allison is continuing to progress, slowly but progressing none the less. Alyssa on the other hand is not progressing, she had to be moved to a lower reading group because the other kids have passed her by too far. Math is also hard for her. Her teacher believes that it is lack of motivation and focus. Neither she nor any of the other specialist have been able to figure out why, nor can I. I am wondering what to do? Should I have her assessed by a developmental peditritian, the district psychologist, or another specialist? This has been going on for the whole school year so it's not something that is going away on it's own.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
Kim Q



artemis -> RE: problem with one twin (4/24/2008 4:19:19 PM)

Do they have to be in the same class? You know your daughters better than anyone, but as a teacher, I have found that the twins I have taught have almost always done better when they are in separate classes. They feel more individual and their is less room for comparison (by themselves, their classmates or their teachers). Even my twins who are extremely close have done better in separate classes.



ladyingrace1979 -> RE: problem with one twin (4/24/2008 4:35:24 PM)

Yes they do. Because of their special needs they have to be in a special ed classroom. The teacher has them in separate groups and she tries to avoid comparison but, that's about all she can do.



JesKlu -> RE: problem with one twin (5/6/2008 1:14:26 PM)

It may not be a bad idea to go get her checked out by a specialist. Who knows? She may have ADD, which tends to go hand in hand with learning disabilities, (especially dyslexia), and try to get her evaluated for similar problems to ADD.

Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica



locomom -> RE: problem with one twin (5/7/2008 12:59:17 AM)

I'd get a physical checkup first for things like eyesight and hearing.



ladyingrace1979 -> RE: problem with one twin (5/7/2008 12:31:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: locomom

I'd get a physical checkup first for things like eyesight and hearing.


They get anual check ups in december, and also at school the eyesight is checked. Because of their special needs and the fact they had a ton of ear infections both get annual hearing evaluations. Also this is happening both in regular classroom work and in small group work so I don't think it's medical.
I appreciate the suggestion though



locomom -> RE: problem with one twin (5/8/2008 4:24:40 PM)

Have they ever had an eye exam by a pediatric ophthalmologist. They do more than the school or the regular pediatrician. We took my daughter because I wanted the more detailed exam before school started. So I'm just posting it on an FYI.

Then at around age 9 my daughter needed glasses and sometime in the next few years developed a crossed-eye, called acquired esotropia. Although she could maintain the forward position for quite a while, as her eye got fatigued it would turn in, giving her double vision.



ladyingrace1979 -> RE: problem with one twin (5/8/2008 6:10:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: locomom

Have they ever had an eye exam by a pediatric ophthalmologist. They do more than the school or the regular pediatrician. We took my daughter because I wanted the more detailed exam before school started. So I'm just posting it on an FYI.

Then at around age 9 my daughter needed glasses and sometime in the next few years developed a crossed-eye, called acquired esotropia. Although she could maintain the forward position for quite a while, as her eye got fatigued it would turn in, giving her double vision.

Yes, they were both checked out. Because of their delays our doctor is extra careful to rule out medical stuff first.



momma_bee -> RE: problem with one twin (5/9/2008 7:09:13 AM)

I'm echoing the eye exam, only because I wasn't sure if you had them done once or annually at a dr's office. I only say that because I told my SIL da'nephew needed glasses one summer and she said they'd check him at school. Even called to brag because he was passed by the nurse. The following year, he failed and the eye dr said he needed glasses for two years. I checked him at a distance, reading a license plate and moved to where I couldn't see it (I'm 20-30 w/glasses) and when he couldn't read it, I figured it wouldn't hurt.

I'm sure you see your girls accomodating for problems. I do it with my vision so I worry that others might and not realize... Even a regular eye dr can look inside their eyes to see an astigmatism.

Would you say that your girls are "competitive" or more praise for progress / improvement. I have praise kids. One wants to be told they are better than they were and the other needs hand-held every step of the way. (its great you read 3 chapters tonight, verses yay, you finished the book) If they don't get the praise they crave, they don't see value in what they do.

With a special needs teacher, I doubt that would be it, because I expect them to praise early and often.

Still thinking, must work...



locomom -> RE: problem with one twin (5/22/2008 11:17:00 PM)

I told about the story with my daughter, but didn't tell the point. At age 5 the pediatric ophthalmologist caught something that neither her pediatrician nor her school caught. Over time it came to nothing. With her acquired esotropia, my daughter had trouble describing what was going on so we didn't really know about until she had an eye exam by the optometrist in our medical group. She was then referred to a pediatric ophthalmologist. My point was that her eye problems required specialized exams to catch them, rather than the usual exams by her pediatrician.



ladyingrace1979 -> RE: problem with one twin (5/23/2008 6:05:54 PM)

As I said before both have been checked by the appropriate doctors. I know my kids vision isn't the problem.



Hismusicgal -> RE: problem with one twin (5/28/2008 2:13:06 AM)

I have b/g twins my dd has had difficulties in school. She is in the lower levels but, my ds is my problem whan he was 5 he was diagnosed with ADD and ODD. He has been getting more and more defiant. We took him to a new counsler and new pshycologist. The pshycologist within the first three hours thinks he has rediagnosed him with PDD-NOS a form of autism. My twins just turned 12 yrs the beginning of May.He normally is a straight A student till this past Oct.(He was close to failing out of 5th grade) that is when we decided to work on getting different Drs.

I want to tell you it might sound bad but, now we are learning better how to help him. There are alot of resources for those who need it.

I pray that God will guide you in what is best for your girls.

Take care.

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locomom -> RE: problem with one twin (6/4/2008 2:33:03 PM)

ladyingrace1979,

Any progress for Alyssa?



Auben -> RE: problem with one twin (6/4/2008 4:22:12 PM)

I don't think it would hurt to have her checked out by a developmental specialist. It's easier to know what to expect from her then.

If she checks out then you can look into her motivation. Some children are easy to motivate in a classroom and others aren't. It may be that she is passing the time (4-6th is a normal age for this) when she is motivated by her teacher's approval and needs to find some other internal motivation.



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