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Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 7:35:55 PM
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TomTurn
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Am serious. Liberalism (socialism) is a mental disorder, that is all I can logically come to when looking at it. It does not mean a person claiming to be a liberal/socialist is mentally disorderd but something is going on. It especially comes out at election time.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 8:05:18 PM
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Pro 11:25 The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 8:25:23 PM
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Pro 11:25 The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself.
The NIV version reads...
A generous man will prosper;
he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
Are you saying that liberals are more prosperous and/or more likely to be more generous?
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 8:37:26 PM
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tracydolls
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quote:
The NIV version reads...
A generous man will prosper;
he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
Are you saying that liberals are more prosperous and/or more likely to be more generous?
the KJV reads
Pro 11:25 The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself.
I did'nt add my 2cents, I simply posted it, take what you what you want from it.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:23:48 PM
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The NIV version reads...
A generous man will prosper;
he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
Are you saying that liberals are more prosperous and/or more likely to be more generous?
the KJV reads
Pro 11:25 The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself.
I did'nt add my 2cents, I simply posted it, take what you what you want from it.
We know the verse has ZERO to do with the term as it's used to label someone from the Left...
Here's a few verses for our friends from the left...(Who deny God...)
Proverbs 12:10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.
Proverbs 15:8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord: but the prayer of the upright is his delight
Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.
John
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:31:17 PM
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A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
Are you saying that liberals are more prosperous and/or more likely to be more generous?
Liberals are generous with other people's money.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:31:20 PM
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ToolmanUF
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Am serious. Liberalism (socialism) is a mental disorder, that is all I can logically come to when looking at it. It does not mean a person claiming to be a liberal/socialist is mentally disorderd but something is going on. It especially comes out at election time.
Wow. That's a mature attitude towards politics. "Anybody who has a different political opinion than me has a mental dissorder."
I don't know whether you're being serious or joking, but either way it is quite a disturbing thought to paint the world in such black and white terms.
Many liberals are quite well educated and intelligent, and know exactly why they espouse certain political opinions, and while they might get frustrated with others whose opinions differ from theirs, I can't imagine them saying that their opponents all suffer from mental disorders!
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:32:53 PM
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Well, I take it that Liberal doesn't necessarily mean liberal. Little "l" liberal is a comparitive term that depends on the benchmark it is referencing. Yes, you could even say Jesus was a liberal without inferring he would vote Democratic in the US. This semantic concept was lost on Alan Colmes.
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After all is said and done, we will still have an economy in a recession, wars to deal with in Iraq and Afghanistan, gas prices that are through the roof, and a government that does little to change any of this.
I think the OP was talking about the political ideals of the groups not how politicians run to their voting base at election time (that is all business with candidates). Anyhow, Americans need to take the bad with the good when it comes to focusing on a few economic "indicators". We have a slowing economy and people act like they understand real hunger. Yes, we like to and should solve economic problems, but reflexively assuming the gov't should step up (in a do something even if it is wrong) is even scarier. We may need to pay for our past mistakes and our lack of holding the leaders accountable.
All that said, I don't know that it is fruitful to call Liberals mentally ill. Though, I find it frustrating when others use a different part of the brain than I do. The upside is an opposing ideology can build patience in a person and keep them honest (assuming they don't find collusion trick like the politicians have done for years.)
And for another good verse....
Pro 13:4 The soul of the sluggard desireth, and hath nothing: but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:34:09 PM
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Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.
Here's a few verses for our friends from the left...(Who deny God...)
who on the left denies G-D? show me.
I can show you Log Cabin Republicans, tell me do they deny G-D?
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:41:53 PM
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One thing that everybody seems to be forgetting is that the word liberal has historically meant many different things, and even today can mean different things in different contexts. Politically and economicaly the term liberal means different things in a European vs. American context.
Each country's liberalism (even each person's liberalism) can be quite different (as can their conservitism). Does Turkey's liberalism equal the Netherland's liberalism?
Finally, the term "liberal" used in the Bible can in NO way be referring to the concept of current American liberalism. To use a verse from the Bible to attack modern American liberalism is ridiculous, and shows how people can take verses out of context to serve their personal agendas. Both liberals and conservatives are capable of doing this.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:44:11 PM
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who on the left denies G-D? show me.
Anyone who believes they can live in conflict of His word without fear of His judgment...
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I can show you Log Cabin Republicans, tell me do they deny G-D?
By their actions they deny God... They do not fear His judgment...
John
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:50:56 PM
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tracydolls
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Isa 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
I just first like to see what G-d says.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:53:01 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Isa 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
I just first like to see what G-d says.
About what?
John
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:53:49 PM
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tracydolls
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Anyone who believes they can live in conflict of His word without fear of His judgment...
We all fear his Judgement don't we?
Are we all sinners, yes. you believe EVERY single person on the left lives like this, that you have no sisters or brothers in Christ on the left.
Left of what? I don't get this.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 9:57:03 PM
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mcp
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Many liberals are quite well educated and intelligent, and know exactly why they espouse certain political opinions, and while they might get frustrated with others whose opinions differ from theirs, I can't imagine them saying that their opponents all suffer from mental disorders!
May not be found recently on the Huffington post, but 'Stupid southern christian racist' or the 'red-neck states' are some examples I used to hear.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 10:06:09 PM
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tracydolls
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2Co 9:13 Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;
ok last verse. 4 times that word is used in Bible.
One meaning of the four I put up
From H5068; properly voluntary, that is, generous; hence, magnanimous; as noun, a grandee (sometimes a tyrant): - free, liberal (things), noble, prince, willing ([hearted]).
I'm trying to understand, what do you call a liberal. it can't just be a blanket statement, they.......
What is your definiton of the word;
Here's the def. from dictionary:
Definition:
liberal person: somebody who favors tolerance or open-mindedness
so how can all people that fit into the description of the Bible and dictionary, however you want to take it, or even your def. be mentally ill?
Sheesh
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 10:07:11 PM
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Many liberals are quite well educated and intelligent, and know exactly why they espouse certain political opinions, and while they might get frustrated with others whose opinions differ from theirs, I can't imagine them saying that their opponents all suffer from mental disorders!
May not be found recently on the Huffington post, but 'Stupid southern christian racist' or the 'red-neck states' are some examples I used to hear.
And saying that people who have a different political ideology than you have a "mental disorder" isn't deing racist?
Of course, I am saying all this as a libreral, and as somebody who is from the south and now living in the north (or at least, where the north begins and liberalsim seems to take place) and in my opinion there is a big difference in the cities run by liberals, or known for their liberal outlook, and those known to be run by conservatives and I get very frustrated with many aspects of conservative political though. That being said, I don't consider it a mental illness!
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 10:07:55 PM
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Liberalism (socialism) is a mental disorder . . . It does not mean a person claiming to be a liberal/socialist is mentally disorderd . . .
So a person can sanely claim to be a liberal just as long as they don't actually buy into liberalism (which is separate from socialism, btw)?
This makes no sense.
All I can tell you is that the psychiatrists don't typically diagnose certain political ideologies as symptoms of mental disorder.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 10:08:29 PM
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Anyone who believes they can live in conflict of His word without fear of His judgment...
We all fear his Judgement don't we?
Only those who believe fear His judgment.... If people feared His eternal judgment they would strive to live their life according to His word, right?
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Are we all sinners, yes. you believe EVERY single person on the left lives like this, that you have no sisters or brothers in Christ on the left.
I believe as a group the Left isn't a haven for God's children... Doesn't mean they are not in there here and there, but not as a group... The core beliefs of the Left are in conflict with God's word...
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Left of what? I don't get this.
You are not aware of what you're posting about???
John
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 10:11:58 PM
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ToolmanUF
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Also, for those who claim that the left is not a "haven for God's children", can you please clarify this?
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Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." John 19:27
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 10:18:30 PM
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2Co 9:13 Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;
ok last verse. 4 times that word is used in Bible.
One meaning of the four I put up
From H5068; properly voluntary, that is, generous; hence, magnanimous; as noun, a grandee (sometimes a tyrant): - free, liberal (things), noble, prince, willing ([hearted]).
I'm trying to understand, what do you call a liberal. it can't just be a blanket statement, they.......
What is your definiton of the word;
Here's the def. from dictionary:
Definition:
liberal person: somebody who favors tolerance or open-mindedness
so how can all people that fit into the description of the Bible and dictionary, however you want to take it, or even your def. be mentally ill?
Sheesh
Ok.... Liberals in the year 2008...
Abortion...(Just a choice....not first degree premeditated murder...)
God(is anyone, anything you desire it/him/she to be...)
Homosexuality(just another choice...)
Sin(floating scale...)
All beliefs are equal...
For starters....
John
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 10:19:06 PM
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Am serious. Liberalism (socialism) is a mental disorder, that is all I can logically come to when looking at it. It does not mean a person claiming to be a liberal/socialist is mentally disorderd but something is going on. It especially comes out at election time.
You know what, you're absolutely right. Us liberals have gone off the deep end. Ove the past eight years, we have started an unnecessary war, racked up several trillion in debt, presided over a weakening economy, tried to publicly intervene in the personal matters of a family, had our federal house majority leader engineer gerrymandering in the Texas house, and provided an awful energy policy that does nothing to help America have a more energy-efficient economy.
We are silly, evil socialists. We claim to support free markets, but voted for subsidizing oil companies when oil prices were high. We engineered one of the largest expansions of entitlement spending in the last 20 years when we rammed the Medicare Part-D bill through congress over the objections of minority Democrats who thought that it was too expensive and that Medicare should be allowed to negotiate to keep costs down.
Yup. Us crazy liberals and the Republican party that we are currently running.
Please, whatever you do, don't vote for those rotten conservative Democrats who like saving money, reducing the budget deficit, and keeping us out of unnecessary wars.
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RE: Liberalism is a mental disorder - 4/29/2008 10:19:38 PM
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Only those who believe fear His judgment.... If people feared His eternal judgment they would strive to live their life according to His word, right?
right.
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I believe as a group the Left isn't a haven for God's children... Doesn't mean they are not in there here and there, but not as a group... The core beliefs of the Left are in conflict with God's word...
the right ain't no Haven either, if 90 % ?of americans are claiming Christianity, that means both sides are claiming it alot, what's the truth?
do you got the manifesto of the core beliefs, i would like to see it?
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Left of what? I don't get this.
You are not aware of what you're posting about???
Ok where's the center? what is the center in politics? Can u show me.
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