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VisitorinWaiting -> How much... (4/30/2008 2:41:12 PM)
I posted something similar sometime back...but I think it was more of a complaint than anything...and I changed things then, but have since gotten knocked off of the routine again thanks to a move and to my daughter having surgery and having to be gone here and there for that. Anyway, my three year old will be four in July. He wets his bed every night. Funny thing, we were at a motel for two nights while dd had surgery...he didn't wet the bed there. I'm THINKING this was because of his limited liquid intake for those days. Being at the hospital, he PROBABLY only had drink at breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and maybe one other drink mid-day or something. We have always limited what he drinks near bedtime...actually, he doesn't drink anything after 5-6pm. So, my question here is what should he be drinking and how much of it? I can get him to drink milk now, finally...and he even drinks it cold. He likes juices (as I'm sure most his age do)...and I can get him to drink some water...and sometimes flavor it with lemon, and he'll drink it down even better. I have looked this up on the internet, and have gotten varied responses. Thanks for the help!

Jenny-Fair -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 2:44:49 PM)
So, you limit his drinks and he STILL wets the bed? If that's the case...why bother limiting it? I can't imagine doing that as a child that age sleeps almost 12 hours a night...can you imagine going all DAY without drinking? Then adding a couple of hours on to the beginning just to be sure you didn't pee? I know I drink plenty in the daytime but still wake up with a headache if I haven't woken up at night to drink. So, just put some pull-ups on the kid and quit worrying. Wetting at night is very common at that age, and it isn't something you can cure..it's developmental and he'll grow out of it.

Sunnymom -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 2:55:13 PM)
Have you been to the doctor? I wet the bed when I was a kid, but it was because my kidney and bladder valves were weak. I grew out of it, but did have to be treated for infections quite a bit. There could be a bit of a physical problem there. But if he checks out OK, then I'd ditto Jenny.

Jenny-Fair -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 2:57:25 PM)
How old were you, Sunny? Because this child is not even four yet...I know Schuyler wet the bed that long, maybe even longer. And the percentage of kids up to like age 7 that wet the bed is pretty high. If it is kidney issues, though, restricting fluid intake is only going to hurt.

VisitorinWaiting -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 3:03:29 PM)
I understand he's young...I'm not worrying...I'm just trying to make sure he doesn't drink too much during the day that is causing it. When he wets the bed, I mean he wets the bed. He wakes up with his clothes COMPLETELY soaked...and they have been like that for hours, and he didn't even wake up when he was wet. My older child did this too...not as long as ds2, but he would at least wake up and come to get me and tell me that he'd wet his clothes and bed. The STINK from his room in the morning is horrible... Thanks for the advice so far... If he's still wetting the bed by his 4 year check up, I'll talk to the doctor about it...like I said, I'm not WORRIED about it...just wondering if something I am doing or not doing will help him to stay dry at night...

Jenny-Fair -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 3:11:00 PM)
You can't keep him dry at night-he's obviously a hard sleeper. And you shouldn't attempt to dehydrate him for 13 hours of every day! Just put a diaper on him.

VisitorinWaiting -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 3:27:13 PM)
Trust me, this child is not dehydrated. I go as long as he does without drink...his brother and sister do as well. If they were dehydrated, I'm sure that at least one of them would show symptoms. I limited his fluid intake (and my other children) at the time that I did after advice from 1. a mother of four children that are all grown and healthy...2. pediatrician suggestion of limiting 2-3 hours before bedtime. He goes to be at 8, so 5-6 would be 2-3 hours before bedtime... So, how much should be 3 year old be drinking in a normal day?

Jenny-Fair -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 3:35:04 PM)
According to THIS site he should be drinking 115-225 milliliters per kg of body weight...so you need to translate his body weight into kgs and then multiply, and then change over into something you can recognize, lol. Also, that site says that if his urine stinks, he IS dehydrated.

Sunnymom -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 3:35:42 PM)
My mom thought something was wrong because even after I was potty-trained, I wet the bed, and I started getting bladder infections. I was sent to a urologist who diagnosed the problem, and while it was serious, it wasn't bad enough for me to go on dialysis. One kidney's valves would work while the other one wouldn't, then I'd go back into the hospital for tests, and it would be the other way around! [&:] I am not sure when I quit wetting the bed, but it dwindled down from nearly every night to a couple of times a month. It didn't stop completely until I was 8 or 9 though- I do remember that much. I went to the hospital every 3 months from the time I was 2 until I was about 8, then it was every 6 months, then once a year. They considered me 'healed' when I was 11. Anyway, I said all that to say that sometimes there is a physical problem, and it isn't necessarily life-threatening transplant time- just something small like what I had could be an issue.

VisitorinWaiting -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 4:06:41 PM)
Using the info that Jenny gave me, I came up with 120 oz. Does that sound right?! That would be 20 cups from his 6 oz. sippy cup. I think something is wrong somewhere. He is 35 lbs, that translated into 15.9 kilograms. So, if I multiply 15.9 and 225, I get 3577.5 ml. Coverting ml to ounces...that gives me 120. I did it twice, and got the same answer both times. This cannot be right. To give him 20 cups of drink a day would be ridiculous! I would have to give him 5 cups at each meal, and then spread out 5 more throughout the day. That would be him drinking all day long! I just checked the site...not 225 ml, but 125 ml, typo, I guess... So, let's re-figure here... 1987.5 ml this time, and converting to ounces...that gives me 67 oz...that's great...okay, much better... That's about 11 of his cups a day... This site also gave THREE checks for dehydration..."You can always check if your child is well hydrated by checking the colour of his/her urine. If it is clear and voluminous they are well hydrated. If the urine is dark and concentrated and has an offensive odour they are probably dehydrated." Clear and volumious are a check here...the only thing is the odor, and even then it has PROBABLY. I honestly don't see how he could be dehyrdrated drinking as much as he drinks in a day. If he goes hours in the evening/night without drinking, he has made up for it throughout the rest of the day...

Jenny-Fair -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 4:08:32 PM)
You took your figures off my post and I mis-typed! Sorry! it's 115-125 ml/kg.

VisitorinWaiting -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 4:16:11 PM)
Apparently, we posted at the same time, Jenny.

Jenny-Fair -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 4:19:41 PM)
Oh, I didn't see that! LOL..I am glad you figured it out. How much in cups does he drink now? And of course, milk isn't all water...hmm, I wonder what the conversion is. Probably not that big a deal in any case.

VisitorinWaiting -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 4:28:02 PM)
He is drinking a lot now...I haven't ever counted the cups, but as I think about it, it has to be at least 10. He keeps asking for more, more, more. My husband drinks a lot, and my children must follow after him. I can go most of the day without drinking...not good, I know...but I do it sometimes, unfortunately. The kids just keep asking for more, more, more though...if I give them water, they don't ask for refills as much, but if it's juice or milk...they want me to keep it coming. I have to stop sometime though...afterall, if I fill up on water, I don't eat much...I want them to eat AND drink.

PrincessDonna -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 4:40:31 PM)
Normal at this age, as others have said. I have an 8 year old who still wets the bed also and has other medical issues the doctor believes is contributing, in addition to heredity. One thing my son's doctor told me...milk or dairy products will make it more likely for him to wet the bed. Maybe it will help your son to get all of that in in the morning and then have only water for the last couple hours you have him drinking.

Jenny-Fair -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 4:42:42 PM)
Juice contributes, too, I think...but it's been a while since I heard that.

PrincessDonna -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 4:49:01 PM)
I think so too, but Noah's doctor didn't mention limiting juice at all, though I already do.

manda59 -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 7:20:30 PM)
When our children were small, we had a rule that after 6pm they could only drink water. That naturally limited the amount they drank without depriving them of liquid.

NotDoneYet -> RE: How much... (4/30/2008 8:51:31 PM)
2 words...Good Nights. They eventually learn to wake up and go. 3 almost 4 is not old enough to worry about staying dry all night. Some kids do, some kids don't. Some kids wet every night, some kids it's a sometime thing. I've learned something after potty training a few kids...MOST "normal" kids don't start kindergarten in diapers and All "normal" kids don't graduate high school in diapers. Before then...don't sweat it... If you're really concerned, talk to your pedi. NDY

Ellie-Mae -> RE: How much... (5/1/2008 6:50:01 AM)
We have five kids and the way we work drinks goes like this: They only get milk, juice or other special drinks during meal times. I have a water container with a spigot on it next to the sink. The spigot is over the counter edge and where all the kids can reach it. Any time they want a drink they can help themselves to that water. It is filled with tap water, but for some reason they drink from that more just because it is more fun I guess. If they are really thirsty, they will drink water. If they don't want the water, then they really weren't thirsty anyway.

sisrev -> RE: How much... (5/1/2008 10:21:16 AM)
Have you thought about having him checked for diabetes? Excessive thirst and certain "smell" to the urine can be symptom of blood sugar issues. As far as bed wetting, he's still young--my son's doctor told us that if he was still wetting the bed by age 5 or 6 we could have some tests run. By the that time, there wasn't a problem anymore. We just used pull-ups at night, and spread a thick towel or two underneath the sheets. We tried a plastic mattress cover, and it just made him sweat.

locomom -> RE: How much... (5/1/2008 3:42:52 PM)
This little boy is 3 years old. Wetting the bed at night is still well within normal behavior. I wouldn't limit anything to drink, except to make healthy choices. Does he wear a diaper or pull-up at night? He might still need to. I think the expectation for him to be dry at night is too high. At this "moment" in his life you might want to compliment him when he stays dry at night yet not make a big deal of it. He most likely grow into staying dry at night. As far as limiting fluids, I limited my daughter to 2 sippy cups of juice(~4 oz. size cup), whatever serving of milk were necessary and the rest were water.

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