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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 1:45:09 PM
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DenimDiva
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Why am I always just popping in and out of this thread every few days and then struggling to keep up with all the topics? I have got to find a better system.
I keep track by using the "my unread subscription" link.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 1:47:31 PM
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Yesterday Liz came home from school and told me a sad story.
Her Spanish teacher is Mrs. D. Every Friday Mrs. D picks up her three boys from daycare. They come to the school and help Mrs. D clean the classroom, including wiping down all of the desks.
On Tuesday, Mrs. D was teaching and walking around the room as usual. She found a desk where someone had written some very hateful things about her in large red writing. Liz doesn't know what was written and neither one of us care to know. Mrs. D has a pretty good backbone and she has had to deal with some tough kids and parents who sometimes say some very unkind things to her. Most teachers have to be able to put up with unkind things being said to them. Whatever was written was so bad that Mrs. D left in the middle of the class crying. After seeing the desk, Mr. S (the principal) has demanded that all students attend an assembly on respect and how harassment and threats will not be tolerated. All parents were sent a phone call via "phone tree" with a message from Mr. S stating that our children would be required to attend this assembly. He said that this was based on some graffiti that appeared in a classroom.
According to Liz, what was said was so bad that Mr. S had the desk removed from the classroom and thrown away because they can't get the graffiti off of it. Mrs. D also has one or two teachers or other staff members with her in the halls. Some have offered to sit in class with her, but she felt that would be too much of a distraction for the other students.
Please pray for Mrs. D and for her students - especially the student(s) who would do something like this. It is not clear if they know who the student was who did this.
Is it appropriate for me to send her a card to cheer her up or encourage her?
Not only appropriate but a wonderful idea.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 2:05:06 PM
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Yesterday Liz came home from school and told me a sad story.
Her Spanish teacher is Mrs. D. Every Friday Mrs. D picks up her three boys from daycare. They come to the school and help Mrs. D clean the classroom, including wiping down all of the desks.
On Tuesday, Mrs. D was teaching and walking around the room as usual. She found a desk where someone had written some very hateful things about her in large red writing. Liz doesn't know what was written and neither one of us care to know. Mrs. D has a pretty good backbone and she has had to deal with some tough kids and parents who sometimes say some very unkind things to her. Most teachers have to be able to put up with unkind things being said to them. Whatever was written was so bad that Mrs. D left in the middle of the class crying. After seeing the desk, Mr. S (the principal) has demanded that all students attend an assembly on respect and how harassment and threats will not be tolerated. All parents were sent a phone call via "phone tree" with a message from Mr. S stating that our children would be required to attend this assembly. He said that this was based on some graffiti that appeared in a classroom.
According to Liz, what was said was so bad that Mr. S had the desk removed from the classroom and thrown away because they can't get the graffiti off of it. Mrs. D also has one or two teachers or other staff members with her in the halls. Some have offered to sit in class with her, but she felt that would be too much of a distraction for the other students.
Please pray for Mrs. D and for her students - especially the student(s) who would do something like this. It is not clear if they know who the student was who did this.
Is it appropriate for me to send her a card to cheer her up or encourage her?
Not only appropriate but a wonderful idea.
I know that it sounds silly that I would ask that. I asked because when Liz's algebra teacer's father passed away, I sent her a card and she called me and told me that was inappropriate because we have a parent/teacher relationship and I was encouraging her to "play favorites." Mrs. L (the algebra teacher) and I don't have a good p/t relationship. Mrs. D and I do have a good p/t relationship, but I still wouldn't want anyone to think that I was trying to get Mrs. D to "play favorites" - even though she is one of Liz's favorite teachers.
Thanks Lady for your advice.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 2:32:14 PM
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Is it appropriate for me to send her a card to cheer her up or encourage her?
YES!!!!
Most definitely - If it were a teacher at my kids' schools I would definitely do it! I just recently sent one to Ty's English teacher he had in 6th grade when I learned she was having serious health problems that have lead to her having to quit her job - one that she absolutely loved. Just a simple thinking of you card and I got the sweetest little e-mail back from her saying that she is so sad that she won't be able to teach the rest of Ty's siblings once they start middle school!
I was at the gas station this afternoon and saw that they were hiring for 2nd and 3rd shifts so I grabbed an application for my husband - We need SOMETHING coming in and right about now ANYTHING would be helpful.
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I have a boy scout rant of my own. I am your son's leader, and I'm sorry, but I am so burnt out that everything just sneaks up on me because I stopped caring about 4 months ago... You are right to be upset and it doesn't just fall on the DL, but the CM and the awards person. They handled it poorly. And, I'm not defending them when I identify with them. That rots that you all missed the awards pack meeting and if the program was run correctly, it would be important for every boy to be there, so that no one is missed because they are NEEDED. In other words. There should have been skits / songs / demonstrations that would require your son's HELP - and there would be recognition as well. Instead of "sit here and be quiet until we call you name, isn't Cubbies fun? Oh, Johnny didn't make it, we will mail it too him."
I understand and I KNOW it's not just the den leader! We've been through 3 CM's in the last 4 years, and the one we have this year is leaving now too. There is a real lack of stability in that troop. But my boys aren't upset about dropping scouts either. Grandpa might not like it all that much, but Grandpa doesn't have to deal with these people on a regular basis either. AND I have a big problem with the current CM. I do not think it's right for ANYONE adult or child to belittle another person - adult or child - and call them a loser or a quitter just because they didn't see scouts through to Eagle. And I KNOW for a fact that she has done this with some of the older boys (she is involved with both the cubbies and the boy scout troop as well) who have dropped to persue other interests or concentrate on their schooling. All I can say is that if she says ANYTHING like that to EITHER of my boys she's going to get a very firm tounge-lashing! Those words a couple of years ago ruined a friendship between her and another single mother and totally turned not one but two boys off to scouts. Simply because someone was not wise enough to keep their cutting words to themselves. Anyway - I said I was done with this rant. I really should stop!
I have to work on getting the program ready for the printers for the 5th grade musical coming up next week. I have all the information I just need to put it together and then get into school on Monday to copy it! They are doing "Schoolhouse ROCK Jr. a variety of songs from the Schoolhouse Rock songs from when their parents were kids! I'm looking forward to this musical even tho I don't have a 5th grader!
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I told her to respond that "of course I'm a Princess, my Mother's a Queen"
The snide part of me wanted to tell her to ask the teacher why she didn't curtsy, but that would be WRONG!
OH MY GOSH!!! I nearly fell out of my chair laughing at this! My problem is I have one that would have probably said that without any prompting from me!   Teachers sometimes forget where they are I think and forget that even tho the policy might say "no teasing" that that doesn't always stop what happens on the playground or on the bus! And unfortunately some of those labels stick with a child for longer then just a couple months or to the end of the school year.
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We're going to have to alter our daily walk route. The past few days, we've walked the way we normally do and one of Noah's AWANA leaders has been outside working on her yard. She has all kinds of comments to make about us having another baby. I can't take it. I know she isn't right and has no right to say those things to me, but she makes me want to crawl under a rock and cry. And then I wonder how many other people are thinking awful, rude things about us and just not saying them. Being a Christian talking to another Christian does not give you the right to say whatever stupid thing comes into your head.
This is so wrong. Especially from someone that you know but not well enough to tell off! Sometimes the worst witness to our faith are the people who claim Christ - but act like this!
Gotta run! Blessings,
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 2:35:46 PM
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I sent her a card and she called me and told me that was inappropriate because we have a parent/teacher relationship and I was encouraging her to "play favorites."
Oh good grief! There is someone reading WAY to much into a simple act of kindness!
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 4:58:55 PM
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I'm sorry your earlier kindness wasn't well received Roberta. Crazy. Definitely send the card.
Tomorrow the bands go out of town to March in a parade.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 6:17:20 PM
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Update on my 12 year old, she says she printed all her stuff and turned it in. I will be checking with the teacher tomorrow or monday to be sure. I just wish I knew what happened to my concientious (sp?) student? I would have thought by 7th grade she'd be more independant!
I had to have a talk with the bus driver on my twins bus. One of the little girls was taking their cheese stick out of their snack bag and since the twins won't stand up for themselves she was getting by with it. I'll send a note to the teacher too.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 7:00:40 PM
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I'm also really tired of Ethan being treated like he is the only child that misbehaves and then not be given an apology when he's blamed for something he clearly isn't doing!
Garsy, I remember you talking about that. I imagine that has to discourage him, poor guy.
I don't blame you a bit and I don't think the boys are quitters. I've read about all you do, it's not like you sit at home and watch stories all day long. You really interact with your kids and the school and I imagine with scouts too.
That is so cool that Brian's work will still pay for schooling!
Donna, I am so glad Noah did so well at the dentist. Linz has her first cavity, did I already mention that? and she's devastated. She absolutely does not want the Novocaine shot. I told her my mom doesn't do them either, and since it's a small cavity I don't think she will be in pain or anything. Our insurance won't pay for the gas.
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I know she isn't right and has no right to say those things to me, but she makes me want to crawl under a rock and cry. And then I wonder how many other people are thinking awful, rude things about us and just not saying them.
{{{Donna}}} just consider the source. Anyone who thinks like that isn't worth you thinking about.
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I would take her aside, away from Noah and speak to her. If that doesn't work then you should bring one of the older ladies of the church with you to speak to her.
What wonderful, and Biblical, advice. :) It's a good idea.
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Kath - you mean like you don't count as a mother as long as you have a mother to honor?
Mbee, I don't know, I just get so sick of her boohooing about gifts, no gifts, calls not made in a timely manner, on and on. I don't want my kids to have memories of mothers day being so ugly. and like I told Linz last night I know she loves me, every day she shows it, and I don't need a special day for her to give me a card or something. Plus, Larry never took them to get me anything, he said I wasn't his mom so I guess I learned never to expect anything, so anything was a surprise. His mom gave me a rose bush on mothers day, which was a complete surprise to me.
One year when I was in 6th grade (1967) I bought my mom nylons for m-day. She accused me of buying them for myself and just giving them to her because I got the wrong size. That has stuck with me all these years. I didn't want my kids to have that kind of memory.
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The thing about secondary infertility is that you know everything is in working order. You did it once, why not again? Poppa and I decided to trust the Lord's judgment in the matter. Right isn't always easy.
{{{Mbee}}} all these years, I've never known you were going through that.
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Bee...I'm sorry that your dd's teacher called her a name. When I was in 6th grade a teacher called me the name that students used to tease me and I remember it quite clearly 37 years later.
Julia, I remember stuff like that too, it's awful.
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It's the last day of school today and I actually remembered to get all of my teacher gifts.
I'm ashamed to say I've never even thought to do gifts once my kids got to highschool. I do get the bus driver a christmas gift card to walmart.
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I told her to respond that "of course I'm a Princess, my Mother's a Queen"
The snide part of me wanted to tell her to ask the teacher why she didn't curtsy, but that would be WRONG!
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one parent at the meeting (students and parents were encouraged to attend) said "oh, my son excels at math and I'm not going to have him in with a bunch of dumb {insert several explititatives here} kids! Just because he has problems with English, don't make him no dummy!"
Roberta, No wonder the poor kid has trouble with English. 
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Now Liz thinks it's an LD program and it's really not.
That's a shame, I hope she realizes differently once school starts next semester.
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On Tuesday, Mrs. D was teaching and walking around the room as usual. She found a desk where someone had written some very hateful things about her in large red writing. Is it appropriate for me to send her a card to cheer her up or encourage her?
I think it would be lovely if you sent her a card. She has to be feeling discouraged. I'd not let one sourpuss teacher stifle your caring instincts.
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I really wish I would stop dreaming about tornadoes. The weather this year has been so awful. I did tell ya'll hubby drove THRU the heart of a tornado a few weeks ago didn't I?
Dana's mom, Oh how scary! 
I use my subscriptions list too. It makes forums a bit easier to manage.
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omorrow the bands go out of town to March in a parade.
Dee, Are they going far? I hope the weather cooperates!
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Update on my 12 year old, she says she printed all her stuff and turned it in. I will be checking with the teacher tomorrow or monday to be sure.
Kim, is there any way for you to check online for assignments/grades? The schools in our area use Power School and I love it. We can keep track of assignments, grades, lunch money, etc.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 8:27:39 PM
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That sounds like progress Kim. I'm trying to figure out why my 7th grader was reading after school instead of doing homework. Grrrrr. I should have checked; she often doesn't have any.
Kath, she's going about an hour away. I'm wondering about the weather too. Saturday they have a trip too, and would like nice weather for it also.
I'm aggravated; E is supposed to be working on a project for history with someone. Last week I took her to his house so they could watch the movie. He wasn't there; he was out of town. So today he was supposed to come here. He never made it. E says he doesn't come to class a lot. Thankfully the project is two parts, and so long as she does her part it won't affect her grade. I think I might join Netflix though so I can get a copy of the movie since they need a clip. She has it on her jump drive, but I don't know if it'll play at school. I hope they're fast. Her presentation is next Friday.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 8:32:54 PM
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What movie is it?
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 8:36:21 PM
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Mississippi Burning. I suppose we should see if we could rent if first; the big library in the next town doesn't have it.
Dee
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 10:14:16 PM
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Mississippi Burning. I suppose we should see if we could rent if first; the big library in the next town doesn't have it.
Shudder ... I remember being forced to watch that in school, and it was when I was overly emotional to begin with (deaths in the family, etc) ... I've disliked that movie ever since!
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 10:25:56 PM
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I'm ashamed to say I've never even thought to do gifts once my kids got to highschool. I do get the bus driver a christmas gift card to walmart.
I wonder if anyone buys gifts once children enter high school?
My "baby" was completing elementary school, so gifts were still appropriate. It is a Christian school and the teachers are really working in a ministry. To see the servant's hearts at that school has been a real blessing.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 11:20:40 PM
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I don't do gifts in MS or HS, although this last Christmas my daughter baked cookies and handed them out to her teachers (she's in 7th grade).
The grade school handbook also discourages Christmas gift giving because not everyone is able to do so.
My daughter finished watching the first half of Mississippi Burning; she seemed to like it OK; she said she wouldn't mind having her own copy of it. Her comment was "I seem to have a strange obsession with civil rights." So at least she finds it interesting enough. From what I saw it wasn't the type of movie that I'd enjoy. Netflix should be sending me a copy tomorrow that she can use for school if she needs it.
Dee
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/9/2008 6:53:40 AM
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No comment from the school, no apology from the teacher. And, people who were her friend on Monday were mean yesterday. I wonder who made that 'ok'?
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/9/2008 9:52:27 AM
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My daughter finished watching the first half of Mississippi Burning; she seemed to like it OK; she said she wouldn't mind having her own copy of it. Her comment was "I seem to have a strange obsession with civil rights." So at least she finds it interesting enough. From what I saw it wasn't the type of movie that I'd enjoy. Netflix should be sending me a copy tomorrow that she can use for school if she needs it.
Great movie....and insight into a time when "on the surface" it SEEMED that everyone was just as "nice" and "Christian" as can be.......
Interestingly enough, there is a mention in a conversation in the movie about the passage of scripture which the KKK and the rest of them believed gave them justification for doing what they did (and, in some parts, still do).........though, I forget what that was.
(Gene Hackman's character was standing in a kitchen, I believe, talking with a woman (probably Mrs. Pell, but not sure), and she was explaining to that FBI agent why they do what they do....and, she quoted the scripture passage).....just so you can be on the 'lookout' for it...
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/9/2008 10:00:23 AM
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on a lighter note....took the day off to go to the zoo with my daughter's Kindergarten class.
There are about 60 kindergarteners, in the 4 classes, and about 19 or so parents were there to volunteer on the field trip. Included in that were 6 dads (including myself)....still amazes me, because when I was in elementary school, dads were NEVER at school for ANYTHING at all (fieldtrips, class parties, PTA participation, etc...etc...).......those were things that only moms did....
so, i was 'in charge' of my daughter and two other kids....and, they had an "assignment" to "find" the animals that have 4 legs.....write information down about them (all the animals have informational signs at each exhibit), AND draw a picture of it.
kids had a great time, of course....by the time we got back, i was exhausted!
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/9/2008 10:35:52 AM
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Oh yes, kindergarteners get so tired on those field trips! I agree Kerns, my dad never went to anything of mine like that (field trip, field day, class party). He did go to programs. Hubby will be going with our son on his field trip on Monday. I'm glad you got to go!
I'll be watching for that scene Kerns. Interesting. If I remember right her part of the assignment is to present on which aspects of the movie are historically accurate.
Dee
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/9/2008 10:51:59 AM
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The teacher called while I was at a meeting. The message?
"Miss Bee, this is Miss Teacher. DeeDee's teacher. Um, I'm tryng to get a hold of you. I will try you later today. Bye."
I missed the call by 4 minutes and could have called her back if she had said she would be available until such-n-such time.
So now, I sit on the phone. Talked to Poppa about it. On one hand, DeeDee is a bit of a drama queen and may be blowing things out of proportion. On the other, if the teacher says she didn't say it, someone has to have lied and whose do we assume is telling the truth (in the absence of other evidence, DeeDee) If she claims it wasn't as bad as DeeDee said it was, at what point to we concede that the DQ may have come out of DD? I say never, but Poppa feels a bit differently.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/9/2008 11:01:06 AM
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I hope you don't have to wait to long to hear back MBee, and get a decent resolution.
Dee
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/9/2008 11:02:31 AM
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If her friends are teasing her then something happened.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/9/2008 11:12:22 AM
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It's bright and sunny out, which is great for my daughter in the parade today. Unfortunately she has no sunscreen on her or with her. I hope one of her friends has some, but I'm not holding my breath. She's my fairest skinned child; the one that I always make sure has sunscreen for such things....
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