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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 9:45:15 AM
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He just keeps getting bolder and more open about his real intentions - how can ANYONE say that this is biblical?
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 10:00:25 AM
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There must be an outcry from leaders in the Charismatic community. The AOG and others must condemn publicly what is going on.
Wet noodle wait-and-see tactics are not working.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 10:11:45 AM
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There must be an outcry from leaders in the Charismatic community. The AOG and others must condemn publicly what is going on.
Wet noodle wait-and-see tactics are not working.
Ain't gonna happen. The AoG superintendent has givien the usual wishy washy response. AoG leaders like John kilpatrick, and Steve Hill endorse it
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 10:19:06 AM
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There must be an outcry from leaders in the Charismatic community. The AOG and others must condemn publicly what is going on.
Wet noodle wait-and-see tactics are not working.
Some people are more afraid of public opinion than standing by the Word the God.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 10:22:34 AM
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Here is another video of Todd Bentley. This one is a water baptism service taking place the this past weekend I believe.
Again, very disturbing stuff. To me, a total disregard of the true meaning of baptism (just listen to the reasons people come forward for baptism), but more importantly a complete disregard of the holiness of God.
I really bothered me and angered me by Todd saying, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the bam!"
Or I baptize you in the name of the sheek-a-boom-ba.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnXMMp-0yG0
Thank you for posting this. Very distressing to watch. How does he get away with it?
A phrase comes to mind..."the inmates are running the asylum".
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 10:27:19 AM
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I would like for anyone who supports this movement - to please with the Bible show us how the last video clip from this weekend is biblical.
I challenge, yes challenge, anyone to show us the biblical support for the downright blasphemous and ridiculous display all done under the banner of "Christianity".
Prove me wrong, do it.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 11:33:19 AM
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If that isn't blatant enough to reveal what is going on,
then we're all totally BLIND.
Hundreds of pastors and ministers are flocking to this
bizarre outpouring from hell to spread it to the world.
The APOSTASY is before us.
When you see these things come to pass, Look up,
For your redemption draweth nigh. But not quite yet.
I've studied baptism to the "n"th degree and can assure
there is no support biblically for what Todd is doing.
But, then again, who cares if it's biblical or not.
It's "supernatural," it's "spiritual," etc. etc.
WAKE UP! Repent, for the Kingdom of God is near.
But, you won't find it in Lakeland.
If we are blinded to these false goings on we will never
see it unless we repent for our ignorance and disregard
for the Holy Writ. Yes, sins of ignorance, found also in the OT.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 12:05:27 PM
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When we stood up to proclaim that there were blatant Scriptural flaws in the WOF, Emergent, Seeker Friendly, Purpose Driven, Signs and Wonders, and Holy Laughter movements, people called us unloving, religious bigots, hypocrites and pharisees.
Now we are seeing that, because people refused to compare those movements to the Word of God and were content to sit idly by and give their acceptance to these false doctrines because it was the "loving" thing to do, masses of people are now falling for the heresies and abominations in Lakeland.
I shudder to think that it could get much worse than Lakeland because people refuse to see the Truth.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 12:24:18 PM
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I shudder to think that it could get much worse than Lakeland because people refuse to see the Truth.
Unfortunately Kat, the Bible is quite clear that it is going to get much worse.
When you have biblically ILLITERATE church goers, being taught by biblically ILLITERATE pastors, who follow and bow to the altars of biblically ILLITERATE televangelists...."poof", you get thousands of fools flocking to false teachers like Todd Bentley.
Spurgeon's quote in my sig below couldn't be more relevant in relation to the demonic freak show going on in Lakeland.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 12:39:02 PM
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So where are those that support this?
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 1:33:04 PM
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We are to "meditate" on the Word day and night as was told to David.
but, also, we can't help but meditate on the mindlessness going on and
wonder why?
The WoF, Prosperity, etc. were the precursers of the peoples being brain-washed.
I have an interesting thing I like to do from time to time to show how easily ALL
can be brain washed. either one on one, or all at once. If you aren't familiar with
certain topics, you can go on and on and never realized you were brain washed.
The simple "trick" is this: and if you don't get it the first time you're brain washed.
"You leave home jogging. You jog for a while and turn left.
You jog some more and you turn left. You jog some more and you turn left.
After jogging a little further, you return home only to find two masked men waiting for you."
Do you have the answer?
If not, I just brain washed you.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 1:35:53 PM
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ORIGINAL: Kat_D
When we stood up to proclaim that there were blatant Scriptural flaws in the WOF, Emergent, Seeker Friendly, Purpose Driven, Signs and Wonders, and Holy Laughter movements, people called us unloving, religious bigots, hypocrites and pharisees.
Now we are seeing that, because people refused to compare those movements to the Word of God and were content to sit idly by and give their acceptance to these false doctrines because it was the "loving" thing to do, masses of people are now falling for the heresies and abominations in Lakeland.
I shudder to think that it could get much worse than Lakeland because people refuse to see the Truth.
Especially in today's world, the majority don't know the difference in
biblical "loving" and being politically correct.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 1:42:57 PM
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I watched gODtv by internet Saturday night. After the "show" a speaker came on with a money appeal. He said they deliberately waited until the god tv coverage was off. This man whose name I missed said he worked with Fresh Fire ministries.
I wish somebody could find a clip of this. He said if we want the anointing God has shown us how to get it in His word--which implied to me we give to get. I don't remember the whole speech, but I remember when he closed in "prayer" he was praying for God to give double to those who gave or even ten times. If the clip turns up I think you'll say I understated my description of this appeal. Anyone else catch it?
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 1:50:09 PM
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I really bothered me and angered me by Todd saying, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the bam!"
Tell me he didn't literally say that!!!
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 2:00:26 PM
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I really bothered me and angered me by Todd saying, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the bam!"
Tell me he didn't literally say that!!!
That and A LOT more.. didn't you see the video?
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 2:02:21 PM
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I watched it and it was disgusting.
I pray for the young man thrashing around in the pool.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 2:10:54 PM
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"bam' is pretty close sounding to the word "Baal"
hmmmmm....
I thought the current WOF pseudo-ministers were bad enough, but this is even worse....
can anything get any more worse than this guy?
hmmmmmmmmmm...
This reminds me of Jezebel back in the Old Testament. if you read about her, she brought in a lot of abominations to false idols .. she was really a bad character.
I dont know which is worse Jezebel or this Todd.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 2:30:10 PM
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I dont know which is worse Jezebel or this Todd.
Same "spirit" manifesting.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 2:39:38 PM
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I dont know which is worse Jezebel or this Todd.
Same "spirit" manifesting.
Emma-O?
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 3:00:57 PM
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I have currently been dialoging back and forth with a blogger/pastor who supports and promotes Todd Bentley/Lakeland. His blog is HERE
I have invited him here to, perhaps, be the first person to actually show us with the Word of God how this is all from Him.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 7/7/2008 3:27:06 PM
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I have currently been dialoging back and forth with a blogger/pastor who supports and promotes Todd Bentley/Lakeland. His blog is HERE
I have invited him here to, perhaps, be the first person to actually show us with the Word of God how this is all from Him.
One testimony with no doctor report before or after?
and one by someone who participated in the leadership role?
Is this a new site, or just no takers?
I noticed the first was "praying for each other."
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