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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/17/2008 5:24:09 PM
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peacebringer
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Has anyone gone to Todd's website? I just was on there and he changed it. He wrote a letter explaining everything that is going on in Florida and defending himself. This guy is good. It really makes me sad because it makes it look so real. Please go and check it out and post your comments.
That is nothing new. The letter has been examined in detail at other sites.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/17/2008 6:27:07 PM
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Has anyone gone to Todd's website? I just was on there and he changed it. He wrote a letter explaining everything that is going on in Florida and defending himself. This guy is good. It really makes me sad because it makes it look so real. Please go and check it out and post your comments.
That is nothing new. The letter has been examined in detail at other sites.
Do you have a link?...the only letter I see on his site is from June 11.
P.S. Christians, do not be alarmed that TB is coming back...just PRAY!!! Pray against his lies. Pray for those who have been deceived. Pray that TB would permanently go back under the rock that he came out from. Pray that God would give people eyes to see the blasphemy that is taking place in Lakeland and put an end to it. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY!
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/17/2008 11:30:08 PM
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ORIGINAL: waffles5
Has anyone gone to Todd's website? I just was on there and he changed it. He wrote a letter explaining everything that is going on in Florida and defending himself. This guy is good. It really makes me sad because it makes it look so real. Please go and check it out and post your comments.
That is nothing new. The letter has been examined in detail at other sites.
Do you have a link?...the only letter I see on his site is from June 11.
P.S. Christians, do not be alarmed that TB is coming back...just PRAY!!! Pray against his lies. Pray for those who have been deceived. Pray that TB would permanently go back under the rock that he came out from. Pray that God would give people eyes to see the blasphemy that is taking place in Lakeland and put an end to it. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY!
http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/response-on-todd-bentleys-recent-defence-to-public-criticism/
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 8:39:58 AM
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I would like to know what the economic impact on Lakeland has been.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 11:46:21 AM
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Another gem regarding the Todd Bentley 'BAM' baptisms:
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E-mail : kevinjames.baker@tiscali.co.uk
URL :
Whois : http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=78.145.169.166
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I myself as a believer in the apostoplice scripturs so happy seeing Todd baptise the all in Jesus name Todd I have no problem it being a revivalist to and just as radical would in baptising anyone under the leading of the Holy Spirit, and in razing the dead and healing the sick .for that is what The Baptising in in The dynermight power donumist power, fire, and I just love Marinating Pickling in Gods almighty Presence and the heavy glory clourd like honey it is great .
There is know greater high than The most High God, any one who has not ask The Lord Jesus Christ into there heart, the scripters
say anyone who calls on Jesus shall be saved. From a brother
in the Lord standing with Todd Bentley and not going any where. From Kev Baker Revivalist amen bless all who read and
do what Jesus is asking call him and be saved I did and I Love Jesus He is my Lord an King, the backslider are you ready if Jesus comes tonight for he will come as a thirth in the Night be ready in closing get wright with Jesus. Bless you Todd, I so love the way The anionting is on you it will get heavyer .
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 12:37:03 PM
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I would like to know what the economic impact on Lakeland has been.
I'm sure nothing.
The hucksters that peddled the Brownsville freak show claimed that crime dropped and the quality of life in Pesecola improved dramatically during their "revival" City officials refuted that immediately as completely and 100% false.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 1:45:50 PM
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I would like to know what the economic impact on Lakeland has been.
I know I read about some of its impact but I can't find the article at the moment. It was a negative impact due to a lot of desparate people coming in with very little money or resources and then the city has to provide emergency help.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 1:56:45 PM
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I've seen some (exaggerating a bit on my part, but not too much)
attendees of "prosperity meetings" winding up in soup lines.
I get tired of people approaching me for "hand-outs" at our church
and them trying to preach prosperity to me at the same time.
So much has built upon this false-doctrine of "prosperity, etc."
Lakeland is just kinda like a boil coming to a head.
It has to be lacerated to heal up.
I guess those wise enough to discern will always be the ones
cleaning up the messes of the Bentley's; Creflo's, Hinn's, etc.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 2:04:11 PM
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Here's an article with a few pics by Josef Urban (I don't know who he is,
but here's his take on Lakeland).
Todd
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 2:32:16 PM
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Lapidoth
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Benny Hinn (30 minutes)
HBO
Benny Hinn
8 parts
This should go in the Benny Hinn folder,
but all these are related. Todd Bentley a "miracle man?"
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 3:01:33 PM
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Lapidoth
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Without the verification from the doctor,
we can "assume" God healed her arm,
or this is part of the scam.
I've seen healers produce X-rays that
didn't belong to the "healed."
Do we be skeptic? Or, believe what is put in front of us?
Is there a doctor in the house? LOL.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 3:40:37 PM
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Lapidoth
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Should we ask for evidence?
Or just accept it all at face value?
self-deceived?
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 3:42:37 PM
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If you continue to promote and defend Todd Bentley, then you become an accomplice and share in his iniquity. If you think every Christian shouldn't judge the teachings of a so-called Christian or Christian teacher, then you are deceived. If a man calls himself a brother i.e., one of "Christ's bride", but brings teachings contrary to Scripture, then we are commanded to expose him and expel him from the church. The Apostle Paul commands us to name names.
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For Todd Bentley to claim he had a conversation with the Apostle Paul makes him a necromancer, forbidden in Scripture. Todd Bentley is not conducting true worship or true revival but seances. He is exploiting the masses with stories he has made up exactly how Scripture describes people like him in 2 Peter 2:3.
You have made a mockery of Christ and his Bride, and compounded your sin by attacking those saints who have exposed you for this circus. What a reproach! So rest assured, we will sound the alarm on His Holy Hill about you! If anyone had wondered what signs and wonders would be performed to deceive even the elect if that were possible, you are now witnessing it!
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 3:46:33 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
Without the verification from the doctor,
we can "assume" God healed her arm,
or this is part of the scam.
I've seen healers produce X-rays that
didn't belong to the "healed."
Do we be skeptic? Or, believe what is put in front of us?
Is there a doctor in the house? LOL.
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Do we be skeptic? Or, believe what is put in front of us?
What do you call someone who ask for proof and then doesn't believe it when it is given. OH! YEAH! Skeptic!
In Acts 12, the people had been praying for God to intervene on Peter's behalf, and HE did. BUT they still didn't believe it when Peter showed up at the door!
Remember, God is the Healer and not TB!!
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 3:54:14 PM
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Lapidoth
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
Without the verification from the doctor,
we can "assume" God healed her arm,
or this is part of the scam.
I've seen healers produce X-rays that
didn't belong to the "healed."
Do we be skeptic? Or, believe what is put in front of us?
Is there a doctor in the house? LOL.
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Do we be skeptic? Or, believe what is put in front of us?
What do you call someone who ask for proof and then doesn't believe it when it is given. OH! YEAH! Skeptic!
In Acts 12, the people had been praying for God to intervene on Peter's behalf, and HE did. BUT they still didn't believe it when Peter showed up at the door!
Remember, God is the Healer and not TB!!
If the "real" evidence is there, then an honest person will believe.
Here's the Geraldo Interview
Geraldo
Notice he questions his co-host who wants real evidence.
I think if this was truly followed up on, then we would know it was a hoax
or for real.
*****Even a real healing can come under a "false sign and wonder."
How else will even the very elect be deceived? Examine the "fruit" of
the man and the ministry.
Has the doctor been talked to and verified what is shown on youtube?
Otherwise it's a "claim" of healing.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 4:02:40 PM
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Notice he questions his co-host who wants real evidence.
I think if this was truly followed up on, then we would know it was a hoax
or for real. [color=#
Good thing Enoch didn't question God, EH ? He just believed without any "scriptural evidence" that there is a God and that belief, that kind of Faith is what pleases God. Hebrews 11:6 !
Enoch didn't get to "follow up on" it, when BAM,[pun intended], LOL!
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 4:04:53 PM
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Notice he questions his co-host who wants real evidence.
I think if this was truly followed up on, then we would know it was a hoax
or for real. [color=#
Good thing Enoch didn't question God, EH ? He just believed without any "scriptural evidence" that there is a God and that belief, that kind of Faith is what pleases God. Hebrews 11:6 !
Enoch didn't get to "follow up on" it, when BAM,[pun intended], LOL!
You're bringing up things that aren't what is being discussed.
Strawman arguments.
No one here is questioning God, they question Bentley.
Those who discern by the Scripture don't even have to question, they know.
The real danger is that those who finally realize what Bentley had done to them
won't question him, they will question God and themselves.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 4:13:50 PM
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The real danger is that those who finally realize what Bentley had done to them
won't question him, they will question God and themselves.
I understand questioning TB, there is reason to do so.
If we fall for false teachings, I understand questioning ourself.
BUT< Please tell me why I should question God?
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 7/18/2008 4:24:15 PM
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Lapidoth
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The real danger is that those who finally realize what Bentley had done to them
won't question him, they will question God and themselves.
I understand questioning TB, there is reason to do so.
If we fall for false teachings, I understand questioning ourself.
BUT< Please tell me why I should question God?
I don't know your age, geography, background, etc.
So, I can only speak to what I do know and have seen.
The prosperity message has ruined many I know and they
either condemned themselves because they don't have the faith,
or some actually turn against God because of what the charlatans
promised and did not deliver.
God isn't subject to the charlatans.
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