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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/5/2008 4:31:17 PM
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4ChristisLove
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I want to publicly thank Todd Bentley and the Lakeland Church. God has used the revival in Lakeland Florida to set me free. Yes, folks, I am telling the truth. Please, don't faint. Read on.
I did attend one service at the Toronto Airport Fellowship. It was a pretty low key service for TAF. I wasn't that impressed but I never looked very deeply into that revival. I have attended meetings in our area where ministers associated with TAF, Brownsville and now Lakeland have spoken. I did <gasp> receive prayer at such meetings and I did once go through a "fire tunnel". Again, I wasn't that impressed. But, again, I didn't look that deeply into these ministers' backgrounds either. I just filed it away as "not really my cup of tea but, hey, if others grow in their walk with Jesus--fine." I did enjoy the worship music.
What is now going on in Lakeland and Todd Bentley's antics has pushed me to look deeper. As you can see by my previous posts regarding Todd Bentley I have very strong objections to his "gospel". Those objections have forced me to look at how these other ministers and ministries are associated with TB and each other. The Holy Spirit has used this whole circus to bring me to repentance about ever sitting in a venue to listen to these "teachers" and allowing them to pray for me.
How does this translate to freedom? Well, I'll tell you. For a long time now I have been struggling to have any desire to read the bible. I could only read scripture for short periods of time and my reading comprehension has been very sporadic. I have been praying and praying about this. Since I have repented of my very limited exposure to these ministries reading the bible has become exciting to me again. The scriptural dots are connecting again. It is awesome.
So, thank you Todd Bentley for being such an obvious charlatan, wolf in sheep's clothing, false prophet/evangelist that I was able to see the whole truth regarding these other ministries and the unfortunate affects of their prayers on my devotional life.
Most of all, thank you Jesus.
That is wonderful! Isn't it amazing how God works and how glorious he really is! 
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/5/2008 4:35:24 PM
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ORIGINAL: laura...
I want to publicly thank Todd Bentley and the Lakeland Church. God has used the revival in Lakeland Florida to set me free. Yes, folks, I am telling the truth. Please, don't faint. Read on.
I did attend one service at the Toronto Airport Fellowship. It was a pretty low key service for TAF. I wasn't that impressed but I never looked very deeply into that revival. I have attended meetings in our area where ministers associated with TAF, Brownsville and now Lakeland have spoken. I did <gasp> receive prayer at such meetings and I did once go through a "fire tunnel". Again, I wasn't that impressed. But, again, I didn't look that deeply into these ministers' backgrounds either. I just filed it away as "not really my cup of tea but, hey, if others grow in their walk with Jesus--fine." I did enjoy the worship music.
What is now going on in Lakeland and Todd Bentley's antics has pushed me to look deeper. As you can see by my previous posts regarding Todd Bentley I have very strong objections to his "gospel". Those objections have forced me to look at how these other ministers and ministries are associated with TB and each other. The Holy Spirit has used this whole circus to bring me to repentance about ever sitting in a venue to listen to these "teachers" and allowing them to pray for me.
How does this translate to freedom? Well, I'll tell you. For a long time now I have been struggling to have any desire to read the bible. I could only read scripture for short periods of time and my reading comprehension has been very sporadic. I have been praying and praying about this. Since I have repented of my very limited exposure to these ministries reading the bible has become exciting to me again. The scriptural dots are connecting again. It is awesome.
So, thank you Todd Bentley for being such an obvious charlatan, wolf in sheep's clothing, false prophet/evangelist that I was able to see the whole truth regarding these other ministries and the unfortunate affects of their prayers on my devotional life.
Most of all, thank you Jesus.
I am so happy for you Laura! So happy! 
I thank God. that is such a great testimony.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/5/2008 4:42:47 PM
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Thank you all for rejoicing with me. It is a great testimony of God's faithfulness in finally showing me the truth. "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." However, it also scares me and grieves my soul that my very limited exposure to these false revivals had such a profound affect on my devotional life. What is it doing to those who are embracing these teachings whole heartedly? I tremble for them.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/5/2008 5:00:22 PM
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Thank you all for rejoicing with me. It is a great testimony of God's faithfulness in finally showing me the truth. "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free."
Yes it is a great testimony. What an impasse when I think of my friends who still follow this "brand" (for lack of a better term for these loosely affiliated ministries) as they would say that I'm being "ripped off" because I don't follow with them and I say they follow false teachers.
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However, it also scares me and grieves my soul that my very limited exposure to these false revivals had such a profound affect on my devotional life. What is it doing to those who are embracing these teachings whole heartedly? I tremble for them.
When I think of the church I went to, I think of how many were angry and departed in anger. Something else I thought of recently...how many were sick. I knew I should leave because of their inconsistencies with the truth, false teaching, and general weirdness, but I noticed people seemed to be getting sick. Yes the thought occurred to me that there was a danger of becoming sick by going there. I don't know if it's true or not. When you say "What is it doing to those who are embracing these teachings whole heartedly?", I wonder about this.
Should people worry about something bad happening to them? Something bad has already happened to them when they are led astray by false teachers.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/5/2008 6:41:56 PM
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I saw a video that was pretty disturbing. It's the one where the two women are on stage and he tells them both (who seem to be drunk in God knows what) to stand in a certain spot. I found that odd cuz it was like he was placing them there for a show...a side show. Cuz all of a sudden like a puppeteer or some kind of demonic puppet master he starts to gyrate and flinch himself saying bam and groaning like some kind of perv. as the women themselves shake and flinch at every motion he makes. It was really sickening. Does anyone else see this as...perverted? Both in the physical and spiritual sense?
Now, just as I was about to click the stop button, something else caught my attention fairly quickly and it had nothing to do with these manifestations. What he did next was really upsetting. He made mention that in the auditorium, there were news and other camera crews there and then starts to do his normal..."oh man, oh man...whew.." etc. Now, question: If it were you, or if it were me or perhaps the Apostle Paul, who God was using at a time of "revival" and we had the opportunity, what would you think would have been the appropriate thing to do with such a GREAT opportunity? Especially if what you were a part of was a move of God and if you know that these are the last days?
Well, obviously Mr. "Anointing" didn't know what to do. SHARE THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST!!! Use the opportunity of God's move to explain what's going on and why!!! But, ahhh, of course you can't do that if you have no idea what's going on. Perhaps God is moving in many instances in the meeting, but poor Bently is too bent on himself and can't focus on the bigger picture man's souls and not healed body parts that will burn in hell. - What will a man gain in exchange for his soul?
This is proof enough that this is or atleast this man is not about God - the true and living God, Jesus Christ! Why? Read your bible and you will see that in John, Jesus continues to say that the Holy Spirit would not be glorifying his gifts his anointing or Himself. He would be sent to glorify Christ to the people's heart! What's the point of having Holy Spirit manifestations if Jesus isn't glorified. - It makes NO sense at all. And it's not that the person of Jesus of Jesus should be glorified in name only but also in attribute! Where is the love? The compassion? The peace? The self-control? and every other fruit that should be coming out of such a revival if the Holy Spirit did have true preemanance. (spelled wrong I know)
Another thing, this guy WILL NOT allow these people to fully testify about what happened. He always, always interupts what the people say just to ask "And you were healed?" Why does he do that? I know why. (well, I think I know why - atleast from the video I saw) It's so he can get the glory. He asked a woman before she even stated what here ailment was, if she was healed. She never finished testifying at all letting the people know what GOD had done, before he knocked her down. - Another reason I believe that these people fall out because of the emotion and excitement they are experiencing. A little mind manipulation and what not and the two mixed will make anyone fall out and be subject to some crazy (drunken) spirits.
Hmm, reminds me of that verse said that wine is a mocker.... (just my own lil' revelation.)
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/5/2008 7:17:25 PM
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ORIGINAL: laura...
Thank you all for rejoicing with me. It is a great testimony of God's faithfulness in finally showing me the truth. "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." However, it also scares me and grieves my soul that my very limited exposure to these false revivals had such a profound affect on my devotional life. What is it doing to those who are embracing these teachings whole heartedly? I tremble for them.
I have to say that I'm very excited for you as the same thing has happened to me. I've been reading more and more for my own sake. I was sure suprised that I had any kind of discernment left in me to judge if this dude was off. And I thank the holy spirit for that yet, I still need to study more so I know the truth for other situations that may not be so obvious (according to my understanding).
I also have to say that I've learned that alot of our own church leaders (the not so mega) are joining in conferences with the Mega Leaders that really aren't teaching truth. Teachers like that guy who does the Purpose Driven Life. I was really upset when I saw a Pastor I respected being associated with an individual who doesn't know didley squat on how to be born again. Who teaches about all that One World Order stuff. - The "Peace Peace!" Gospel.
Anyway, we sure ought to be thankful for the Holy Spirit who reveal to us truth and teaches and edifies etc. . Cuz, I'm telling you, it really upsets me that you CANNOT trust anyone anymore. I'm thankful that Jesus is the Great Shepherd! Cuz the Shepherds we got nowadays are feeding the flock garbage.
I learned a long time ago not to listen to every teaching that I came across. Well, it was something I had a problem with. I was so in search for spirituality and the emotionalism of religion - what the mega leaders offer - that I lost sight and understanding of the peace and rest that is found in Christ. I searched everywhere for an experience to base my relationship with God on. I read every book looking for how to reach God, how to have a new experience, how to have a new revelation. I went to church all the time, listened to every radio/tv preacher I could, in order to feed my hungry soul. But, too much of what I heard was not for me. (Whether it was truth or not didn't matter at the time.) God had to stop me from searching for answers from man, when all the while he was teaching me the truth. I just wasn't listening. I learned what real relationship was as I just stuck with the bible, stopped listening to preachers on the radio, and television. I had to seek God and not what I thought would lead me to him.
Anyway, like I said your testimony sure is great! Testifying of how the Lord surely knows how keep his people. A
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/5/2008 10:30:05 PM
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Col 2:18 - 19 (ESV) 18Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions,£ puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, 19and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/5/2008 11:02:59 PM
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I don't think we really understand what revival is. I really don't. If there is to be revival anywhere, there should be some kind of change. In the community, in people's personal lives etc. I have seen a video of a country where there was revival happening the whole town was saved - not just healed. Crops began to grow, the government began to turn around etc. This country, if it is in revival, had better start turning around, and that by the power of God. Really. A revival isn't just some stupid shout till you fall out freak show!! You'd better get some REAL power and take it home to the your communities and start using it to turn people's hearts back to God. For crying out loud, I believe the first ever revival would have been after God filled his people with power in that upper room. You might call Peter the "minister" of that revival. But what did he do when those who didn't understand mocked what was going on. He clearly stated what was going on and why. - He gave'm the Gospel. And after this many more where added to the church. The "revival" began to spread. Along with signs and wonders came the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I'm really not understanding how anyone can label this thing a revival, or rather how anyone can claim TB as minister of the revival if most of the people there are already belivers. It is my whole hearted belief that if there is revival there will be a move of God throughout the land that just doesn't affect the physical but the spiritual also. In personal lives, in relationships, in leadership and government, in lifestyle etc. This country definately needs revival, and if God has anything to do with it, he isn't going to settle for people's bodies being healed. He's more concerned about souls.
And I'm really really against a revival that doesn't offer you any real power. Does anyone realize we are in the last days and things are going to get worse for the Christian and for the unbeliever. But who will be able to stand in these last days? The person who fell out on the floor in a laughing fit for a week in Florida? Or the person who's heart is seeking and perfect toward's God and has experienced who he truly is, knowing Him and has, through expereincing his faithfulness, known Him to be a Strong Tower! Not just a healer, not just a provider, but a VERY PRESENT help in times of trouble.
How can anyone be able to stand in these last days when everytime they feel down they have to run to some meeting or move of God to get a Spiritual boost?? It makes no sense and it really hurts my heart. I can't stand that people are being drawn to something that isn't going to help them in the long run. So, you fell out under the anointing. But when you go home is that all you're going to offer the people who don't care for your God - whether he heals or not. There are people out in this world who could care less if God heals, or not. If you're going to have an anointing it better carry something more than goosebumps and babblings!! It better!! I'm serious people! People aren't stupid. And they aren't gonna settle for the okie doke anymore as far as Christans and Chrisitanty (as currently represented) is concerened.
Young people are hungry. And they're desperate. And they are searching for truth....TRUTH!!!! Not hype. Not hysteria. They've got enough of that garbage from the media, from their so called friends, form their families. They get their "spiritual high" from drugs. They don't need our Jesus. - They don't. Especially if he's being made to look like a Ring Leader of the biggest circus show ever!
If a person posesses real anointing, when you are out there in the real world where the mega leaders are not - the job you hate, the home you hate, with the people you hate, you possess something that cannot be taught, cannot be "transfered", that cannot be bought. You possess the power of the Holy Spirit to touch lives!! You may feel like you don't have the ability to touch people's lives in these last days but people- let me tell you something. The God of the impossible, will give you a word in it's season! People that you never though you would be ministering to, will be touched by the words that only God can anoint, quicken and bring to life.
I'm not saying this just to say it. I KNOW IT! I've ministered to people by the power of God and didn't even know it. A simple word, a simple scripture, and it's like a lightning bolt to the hearer's soul! That's anointing! To be able to be kind to the people who don't deserve it. That's annointing! To be able to walk in your job day in and day out with the joy of the Lord while everyone else wonders why you're so happy when they and you know that you should be running in the other direction. - That's annointing! When people ask you for the hope that you have and you are able to answer with humility and fear and offer the person the same hope that you have! - That my friend is annointing!
A person doesn't carry annointing just so they can lay hands on the memebers of the church and have them fall out! A person doesn't possess anointing so that they can quote bible verses on the topic of anointing. The anointing is to break the yoke of bondadge on people's lives. - Real life bondages. And for real people. The outcast, the nobody, the one no one wants to deal with....except (by the Spirit of Christ) you. How do you think Jesus minsitered to the "sinners" of his day?? He used the anointing right? DId he use it in the synagoge? No!
Really, get a clue people....get a clue...WAKE UP!!!
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 12:04:17 AM
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Those are true words. I beleive we are at a crossroads between judgement and true revival. Let us see what God does, but we all need to wake up and get ready.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 7:16:56 AM
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Col 2:18 - 19 (ESV) 18Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions,£ puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, 19and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.
WOW!!
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 9:23:00 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ms.Jonz
I don't think we really understand what revival is. I really don't. If there is to be revival anywhere, there should be some kind of change. In the community, in people's personal lives etc. I have seen a video of a country where there was revival happening the whole town was saved - not just healed. Crops began to grow, the government began to turn around etc. This country, if it is in revival, had better start turning around, and that by the power of God. Really. A revival isn't just some stupid shout till you fall out freak show!! You'd better get some REAL power and take it home to the your communities and start using it to turn people's hearts back to God. For crying out loud, I believe the first ever revival would have been after God filled his people with power in that upper room. You might call Peter the "minister" of that revival. But what did he do when those who didn't understand mocked what was going on. He clearly stated what was going on and why. - He gave'm the Gospel. And after this many more where added to the church. The "revival" began to spread. Along with signs and wonders came the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I'm really not understanding how anyone can label this thing a revival, or rather how anyone can claim TB as minister of the revival if most of the people there are already belivers. It is my whole hearted belief that if there is revival there will be a move of God throughout the land that just doesn't affect the physical but the spiritual also. In personal lives, in relationships, in leadership and government, in lifestyle etc. This country definately needs revival, and if God has anything to do with it, he isn't going to settle for people's bodies being healed. He's more concerned about souls.
And I'm really really against a revival that doesn't offer you any real power. Does anyone realize we are in the last days and things are going to get worse for the Christian and for the unbeliever. But who will be able to stand in these last days? The person who fell out on the floor in a laughing fit for a week in Florida? Or the person who's heart is seeking and perfect toward's God and has experienced who he truly is, knowing Him and has, through expereincing his faithfulness, known Him to be a Strong Tower! Not just a healer, not just a provider, but a VERY PRESENT help in times of trouble.
How can anyone be able to stand in these last days when everytime they feel down they have to run to some meeting or move of God to get a Spiritual boost?? It makes no sense and it really hurts my heart. I can't stand that people are being drawn to something that isn't going to help them in the long run. So, you fell out under the anointing. But when you go home is that all you're going to offer the people who don't care for your God - whether he heals or not. There are people out in this world who could care less if God heals, or not. If you're going to have an anointing it better carry something more than goosebumps and babblings!! It better!! I'm serious people! People aren't stupid. And they aren't gonna settle for the okie doke anymore as far as Christans and Chrisitanty (as currently represented) is concerened.
Young people are hungry. And they're desperate. And they are searching for truth....TRUTH!!!! Not hype. Not hysteria. They've got enough of that garbage from the media, from their so called friends, form their families. They get their "spiritual high" from drugs. They don't need our Jesus. - They don't. Especially if he's being made to look like a Ring Leader of the biggest circus show ever!
If a person posesses real anointing, when you are out there in the real world where the mega leaders are not - the job you hate, the home you hate, with the people you hate, you possess something that cannot be taught, cannot be "transfered", that cannot be bought. You possess the power of the Holy Spirit to touch lives!! You may feel like you don't have the ability to touch people's lives in these last days but people- let me tell you something. The God of the impossible, will give you a word in it's season! People that you never though you would be ministering to, will be touched by the words that only God can anoint, quicken and bring to life.
I'm not saying this just to say it. I KNOW IT! I've ministered to people by the power of God and didn't even know it. A simple word, a simple scripture, and it's like a lightning bolt to the hearer's soul! That's anointing! To be able to be kind to the people who don't deserve it. That's annointing! To be able to walk in your job day in and day out with the joy of the Lord while everyone else wonders why you're so happy when they and you know that you should be running in the other direction. - That's annointing! When people ask you for the hope that you have and you are able to answer with humility and fear and offer the person the same hope that you have! - That my friend is annointing!
A person doesn't carry annointing just so they can lay hands on the memebers of the church and have them fall out! A person doesn't possess anointing so that they can quote bible verses on the topic of anointing. The anointing is to break the yoke of bondadge on people's lives. - Real life bondages. And for real people. The outcast, the nobody, the one no one wants to deal with....except (by the Spirit of Christ) you. How do you think Jesus minsitered to the "sinners" of his day?? He used the anointing right? DId he use it in the synagoge? No!
Really, get a clue people....get a clue...WAKE UP!!!
PREACH IT, SISTER!
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 9:25:40 AM
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Col 2:18 - 19 (ESV) 18Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions,£ puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, 19and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.
WOW!!
Isn't God's Word absolutely amazing?
Yes, it is amazing. All these scriptures that can speak specifically to what is happening in Lakeland and the teachers and leaders endorsing this "move" don't recognize the truth. No wonder TB is prevented from read scripture, if he could he might actually repent.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 9:36:56 AM
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on video shows a woman going up for healing from liver problems. He whacks her head, she does not fall. He does it again, she does not fall.
He asks her why she is still there, she stammers and says she does not feel the holy spirit.
he zaps her again with both hands, she does not fall, just goes backwards.
He and the camera quickly move away to the other part of the stage.
the service date is May 27th.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 10:24:53 AM
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I don't think we really understand what revival is. I really don't. If there is to be revival anywhere, there should be some kind of change. In the community, in people's personal lives etc. I have seen a video of a country where there was revival happening the whole town was saved - not just healed. Crops began to grow, the government began to turn around etc. This country, if it is in revival, had better start turning around, and that by the power of God. Really. A revival isn't just some stupid shout till you fall out freak show!! You'd better get some REAL power and take it home to the your communities and start using it to turn people's hearts back to God. For crying out loud, I believe the first ever revival would have been after God filled his people with power in that upper room. You might call Peter the "minister" of that revival. But what did he do when those who didn't understand mocked what was going on. He clearly stated what was going on and why. - He gave'm the Gospel. And after this many more where added to the church. The "revival" began to spread. Along with signs and wonders came the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I'm really not understanding how anyone can label this thing a revival, or rather how anyone can claim TB as minister of the revival if most of the people there are already belivers. It is my whole hearted belief that if there is revival there will be a move of God throughout the land that just doesn't affect the physical but the spiritual also. In personal lives, in relationships, in leadership and government, in lifestyle etc. This country definately needs revival, and if God has anything to do with it, he isn't going to settle for people's bodies being healed. He's more concerned about souls.
And I'm really really against a revival that doesn't offer you any real power. Does anyone realize we are in the last days and things are going to get worse for the Christian and for the unbeliever. But who will be able to stand in these last days? The person who fell out on the floor in a laughing fit for a week in Florida? Or the person who's heart is seeking and perfect toward's God and has experienced who he truly is, knowing Him and has, through expereincing his faithfulness, known Him to be a Strong Tower! Not just a healer, not just a provider, but a VERY PRESENT help in times of trouble.
How can anyone be able to stand in these last days when everytime they feel down they have to run to some meeting or move of God to get a Spiritual boost?? It makes no sense and it really hurts my heart. I can't stand that people are being drawn to something that isn't going to help them in the long run. So, you fell out under the anointing. But when you go home is that all you're going to offer the people who don't care for your God - whether he heals or not. There are people out in this world who could care less if God heals, or not. If you're going to have an anointing it better carry something more than goosebumps and babblings!! It better!! I'm serious people! People aren't stupid. And they aren't gonna settle for the okie doke anymore as far as Christans and Chrisitanty (as currently represented) is concerened.
Young people are hungry. And they're desperate. And they are searching for truth....TRUTH!!!! Not hype. Not hysteria. They've got enough of that garbage from the media, from their so called friends, form their families. They get their "spiritual high" from drugs. They don't need our Jesus. - They don't. Especially if he's being made to look like a Ring Leader of the biggest circus show ever!
If a person posesses real anointing, when you are out there in the real world where the mega leaders are not - the job you hate, the home you hate, with the people you hate, you possess something that cannot be taught, cannot be "transfered", that cannot be bought. You possess the power of the Holy Spirit to touch lives!! You may feel like you don't have the ability to touch people's lives in these last days but people- let me tell you something. The God of the impossible, will give you a word in it's season! People that you never though you would be ministering to, will be touched by the words that only God can anoint, quicken and bring to life.
I'm not saying this just to say it. I KNOW IT! I've ministered to people by the power of God and didn't even know it. A simple word, a simple scripture, and it's like a lightning bolt to the hearer's soul! That's anointing! To be able to be kind to the people who don't deserve it. That's annointing! To be able to walk in your job day in and day out with the joy of the Lord while everyone else wonders why you're so happy when they and you know that you should be running in the other direction. - That's annointing! When people ask you for the hope that you have and you are able to answer with humility and fear and offer the person the same hope that you have! - That my friend is annointing!
A person doesn't carry annointing just so they can lay hands on the memebers of the church and have them fall out! A person doesn't possess anointing so that they can quote bible verses on the topic of anointing. The anointing is to break the yoke of bondadge on people's lives. - Real life bondages. And for real people. The outcast, the nobody, the one no one wants to deal with....except (by the Spirit of Christ) you. How do you think Jesus minsitered to the "sinners" of his day?? He used the anointing right? DId he use it in the synagoge? No!
Really, get a clue people....get a clue...WAKE UP!!!
My friend, you can tell you posses the annointing.
And yes, signs and wonders are for the unbelievers....the more reason for the gospel to be preached!
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 12:35:44 PM
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PREACH IT, SISTER!
ROFL..........I was going to say,
Post #1708; can Ms.Jonz preach or what!!!! lol.
that's the best sermon on anointing I've ever heard.
THE ANOINTING [non-transferrable]
Just use it, just be it.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 1:59:42 PM
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And I'm really really against a revival that doesn't offer you any real power. Does anyone realize we are in the last days and things are going to get worse for the Christian and for the unbeliever. But who will be able to stand in these last days? The person who fell out on the floor in a laughing fit for a week in Florida? Or the person who's heart is seeking and perfect toward's God and has experienced who he truly is, knowing Him and has, through expereincing his faithfulness, known Him to be a Strong Tower! Not just a healer, not just a provider, but a VERY PRESENT help in times of trouble.
Very well said. Tired of the namby pamby stuff! 
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 2:18:15 PM
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I don't think we really understand what revival is. I really don't. If there is to be revival anywhere, there should be some kind of change.
For several years, my heart has been contending and praying for a genuine revival... I believe this is what the church needs today! What is revival? It is when the church is revived - made alive again. Where we are renewed in our passion and zeal for Jesus, and love and compassion for the lost. As Second Chronicles 7:14 says, "If my people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven, and forgive their sins, and heal their land." I want to see God pour out His Holy Spirit upon us anew and afresh, to see repentance hit the church, and a genuine restoration of the supernatural gifts of the Spirit like we saw in the book of Acts. THAT is revival to me!
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 3:53:53 PM
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Here is the General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God's statement on revivals.
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Rather than attempting to comment on any specific series of meetings, I feel it would be preferable to provide some Scriptural guidelines for assessment. I have great confidence in the maturity of Assemblies of God pastors and laity to make their own judgments and heed the admonition of the Apostle Paul: Do not put out the Spirit's fire; do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil (1 Thessalonians 5:19-22).
I would judge that the Lakeland Revival has failed every one of the guidelines Superintendent Woods has outlined.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 4:57:29 PM
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I liked the way you could listen and read along with the speaker.
Definitely not an endorsement of any of the "outpourings," "rains," etc.
Preaching the gospel and repentance. Pretty plain.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 5:07:23 PM
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I don't think we really understand what revival is. I really don't. If there is to be revival anywhere, there should be some kind of change.
For several years, my heart has been contending and praying for a genuine revival... I believe this is what the church needs today! What is revival? It is when the church is revived - made alive again. Where we are renewed in our passion and zeal for Jesus, and love and compassion for the lost. As Second Chronicles 7:14 says, "If my people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven, and forgive their sins, and heal their land." I want to see God pour out His Holy Spirit upon us anew and afresh, to see repentance hit the church, and a genuine restoration of the supernatural gifts of the Spirit like we saw in the book of Acts. THAT is revival to me!
I didn't know the church was dead to begin with.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 6:28:59 PM
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Thank you so much for these! I'm half way through and it is really good! I thought I would fill you in on something I saw in one of the pictures that was linked in the 2nd series. It's the one where the lady's hands are still raised (like it's is a ghost) in praise. He pointed that out in the sermon, but I saw something else so I emailed him to ask if he noticed. He hadn't seen it and was thankful that I brought it to his attention. It's an image of a demon/oni's head burning in fire between the pastor and the man kneeling (and this is suppose to be from www.garyoats.org). Just an interesting finding if anyone is curious. And rather scary to think what you could be worshiping and opening yourself up to!
http://www.prophetic.net/firepix.htm
OK, I think we may need to get a grip. I'm sorry. I'm not sure what you're saying 4ChristisLove but I am mortified by the captions under those photos - such nonsense. Are we serious? Are they serious? That kind of hyper-mysticism is exactly why we have a freak show like Bentley getting all this attention and confusing so many gullible people.
Supernatural (in a Godly sense) is one thing. But we're so absurd sometimes. Angel Balls - wow. I thought I'd heard it all. I'd love to get a photographers take on those photos.
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