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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 6:38:21 PM
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4ChristisLove
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I would like a photographer's take too. It was a picture submitted from someone that emailed Dr. Johnson about these type of movements. Your guess is as good as mine Scary enough to think it is. I don't know, but I thought I would share.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 6:47:50 PM
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Laura: I just read your incredible testimony a few pages back. WOW!! What a joy that is, and I truly rejoice with you!! God is amazing!
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 7:30:46 PM
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I would like a photographer's take too. It was a picture submitted from someone that emailed Dr. Johnson about these type of movements. Your guess is as good as mine Scary enough to think it is. I don't know, but I thought I would share.
the spheres only happen with a flash, it is usually illuminating a speck of dust or insect.
ghosting images are just that, the shutter is tooo slow or the flash sync is off. the purple angel looks like a flag coming in front of the camera lens, probably a similar flag to the small on top left.
the octogon shaped snow, the octogon is shape of shutter opening in camera.
"ghost busters" seem to think they sometimes catch a spirit on camera (usually looks like a person) but will also say most of it, the orbs etc are other camera issues.
okay weird, the spell check says no errors but there are errors. SPOOKY.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/6/2008 7:45:05 PM
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Thanks..I appreciate your take. If anything though I would think the picture I was referring to was doctored if anything.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/7/2008 10:51:20 AM
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I was listening to the Thursday edition of Way of the Master Radio online yesterday evening, and Todd Freil told the story of a minister in England by the name of Mark Hamill (?).
He used to do the very same things that Todd Bentley does.
He has now come out and repented of doing these things and has written articles explaining how they are done and the manipulation behind it all.
I couldn't find any of his articles online though.
This morning I was listening to the Friday edition of the radio program, and they announced that they are going to try to have this individual on their radio program too interview next week, perhaps Monday.
Just wanted to share with everyone the information.
The interview should be eye-opening because he is suppose to expose secrets of how to manipulate large crowds of people to be "slain in the spirit" plus the other manifestations.
I didn't get to hear in the article how he was brought to repentance. Maybe that will be revealed in the interview, if they are able to do it next week.
FYI.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/7/2008 1:52:19 PM
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Mark Hamill played Luke Skywalker. . .
If you can find this article or book or something, let me know!
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/7/2008 2:17:28 PM
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The interview should be eye-opening because he is suppose to expose secrets of how to manipulate large crowds of people to be "slain in the spirit" plus the other manifestations
Also, do some research into Rich Messmer. He was a hypnotist and his methods are the same used by individuals such as Hinn and Bentley.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 6/7/2008 4:45:43 PM
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Yes,Im hearing alot about Todd being a false prophet...I got some good friends who went to Lakeland and swear hes legit.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/7/2008 4:54:11 PM
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Mark Hamill played Luke Skywalker. . .
If you can find this article or book or something, let me know!
When I googled his name, that is what I came up with as well.
I might have heard his last name wrong, but I will try to listen to the way of the master radio next week to see if they have him on or not.
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 6/7/2008 6:14:55 PM
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Yes,Im hearing alot about Todd being a false prophet...I got some good friends who went to Lakeland and swear hes legit.
I suggest you have your friends read through this thread. Especially the videos
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RE: Florida HealingOutpouring-here we go again - 6/7/2008 9:55:25 PM
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Great deal of emotion. No Scripture. None, Nada. Zip.
At least the WOF folk take it out of context.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/7/2008 10:08:54 PM
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GOD is my only prophet. they asked john the baptist if he was the prophet. he said no way. i like john the baptist. GOD paid the highest compliment for a man to the baptist. mat11:11 and we believe john is the bridegroom at john 2. the bible stimulates me.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/7/2008 10:27:39 PM
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The way is talking about sending the "revival" out past Lakeland, the True Church must be on guard against the false teachings of this movement.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/7/2008 11:03:15 PM
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Luke 17:11 - 19 (ESV) 11On the way to Jerusalem he was passing along between Samaria and Galilee. 12And as he entered a village, he was met by ten lepers,£ who stood at a distance 13and lifted up their voices, saying, “Jesus, Master, have mercy on us.” 14When he saw them he said to them, “Go and show yourselves to the priests.” And as they went they were cleansed. 15Then one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, praising God with a loud voice; 16and he fell on his face at Jesus’ feet, giving him thanks. Now he was a Samaritan. 17Then Jesus answered, “Were not ten cleansed? Where are the nine? 18Was no one found to return and give praise to God except this foreigner?” 19And he said to him, “Rise and go your way; your faith has made you well.”£
Interesting that Todd is praying for cleansing over making one well.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 4:11:15 AM
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In case anybody is counting, they are claiming that some 20 people have been raised from the dead because of what is happening in Florida.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 10:07:30 AM
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In case anybody is counting, they are claiming that some 20 people have been raised from the dead because of what is happening in Florida.
Adam
Any medical/video/documented proof available?
Even satan can perform signs and wonders. And the consensus on this thread is that Todd Bentley is a false prophet, false teacher, and indeed a tool of satan. This freak show is NOT of God, but occultic, bordering on demonic.
Even well know false teachers are leary of this "movement" (Bickle, Sheets, etc)
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 10:25:57 AM
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In case anybody is counting, they are claiming that some 20 people have been raised from the dead because of what is happening in Florida.
Adam
Every day, that number seems to jump.
If 20+ people really were really raised from the dead, then why isn't it on the news? Why am I not hearing official report after official report?
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 10:48:00 AM
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As usual the AoG takes it's wish-washy stance on Lakeland
Official AoG statement on revival. Doesn't mention Lakeland by name though
...."In summary, the message must always be examined. If the message and the messenger line up with God's Word, then the revival is on safe Biblical ground and it should and must be embraced. If not, then even though miracles and manifestations occur, it should be avoided.
This raises the question of how can healings and miracles occur if the message and/or messenger are not consistent with Scripture. The attribution for the healings and miracles is the grace of God and his mercy for hurting people."
Why would't he say here that satan can perform healings, miracles, signs and wonders?
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 11:20:32 AM
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Definitely one of the things, as a to-be AoG minister, that frustrates me to no end. . .
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 12:52:25 PM
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Definitely one of the things, as a to-be AoG minister, that frustrates me to no end. . .
I hear ya. I was saved in and spent almost 20 years in AoG churches. They took the same approach with Brownsville.
Many of their churches have bought into the Latter Rain/Five Fold movement. What's ironic is that it was the AoG that was in the forefront in declaring those movements as heresy in the 40's. They even have a position paper on it.
However, when I emailed the superintendant asking what the AoG's current position is on the movement to restore the offices of Apostle and Prophet (Latter Rain), I received their typical response. Non-committal either way
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 2:46:40 PM
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In case anybody is counting, they are claiming that some 20 people have been raised from the dead because of what is happening in Florida.
Adam
Every day, that number seems to jump.
If 20+ people really were really raised from the dead, then why isn't it on the news? Why am I not hearing official report after official report?
"They" who? Bentley's website? I'm pretty sure if 20 people were raised from the dead 30 minutes down the road, I'd have heard about it.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 4:36:52 PM
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Praise God! Today's sermon my pastor preached on false prophets. And afterwards one of the three friends I was concerned with getting into this came to me. She needed to talk, that she is starting to feel this conviction on TB & Lakeland. Praise God!!!!
Here is a video that was shown today about Marjoe Gortner...http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=bdd5a1719fe4095061e4
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 5:11:37 PM
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Praise God! Today's sermon my pastor preached on false prophets. And afterwards one of the three friends I was concerned with getting into this came to me. She needed to talk, that she is starting to feel this conviction on TB & Lakeland. Praise God!!!!
Here is a video that was shown today about Marjoe Gortner...http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=bdd5a1719fe4095061e4
God bless your pastor for speaking out against false prophets and teachers! We need more of them.
I pray that the Holy Spirit gives you the words to say as you speak with your friend
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/8/2008 5:24:44 PM
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Check this out
Todd Bentley's circus is shown.
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