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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/12/2008 11:37:28 AM
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OLEEguacamole
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If you have a problem with Bentley's tattoos, fine. But dont start using half truths, false truths and down right LIES to do so.
Show me a LIE, Stephanos, or stop making statements like that.
that was directed i'm sure, to the link someone else posted to the erroneous information, not to wintry.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/12/2008 11:44:06 AM
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ORIGINAL: OLEEguacamole
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ORIGINAL: wintery
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ORIGINAL: Stephanos
If you have a problem with Bentley's tattoos, fine. But dont start using half truths, false truths and down right LIES to do so.
Show me a LIE, Stephanos, or stop making statements like that.
that was directed i'm sure, to the link someone else posted to the erroneous information, not to wintry.
OH, if that's the case, then we're actually in agreement--I'm against false statements as well.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/12/2008 11:45:15 AM
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:18:21 PM
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My chagrin was due to the fact that the so called tatoo world has nothing to do with what is going on at Mr. B's outpouring.
I've heard a lot of reasons and excuses, but my concern and questions would be:
"What is the tattoo-world doing in the Body of Christ in the first place?"
What happened to "Come out of her?"
"Consecrate yourself?" "Be not like the world?"
I don't care what the culture, I share the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I don't have a tattoo on my body, I've got a lot of scars, but not inked markings.
I live in native american culture, and I share that many of their actions and culture
are from the dark side. I don't mutilate myself, suck feathers up my nose, etc,
so I can reach them. I have a mouth and they have ears. That's all it takes.
Seems like the new moves and fads are man's "ways" and not God's Ways.
Is that not obvious to anyone else?
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:27:59 PM
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Something very,very wrong is going on with Bentley, but to focus on his tattoos is IMO, headed down a rabbit hole.
I don't think tattoos hold a candle to his:
inability to read scripture without going nuts
Professing to cruise the upper altitudes with angels
Has found an opening into heaven, and like Jack and the Beanstalk, can climb in at any time.
Praying against those who oppose his theology
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:31:44 PM
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I've heard a lot of reasons and excuses, but my concern and questions would be:
"What is the tattoo-world doing in the Body of Christ in the first place?"
That is exactly how I feel about it. I posed the question (yesterday) why not have the tatoos in English - if they really are all bout Christianity - then, there would be no misunderstanding re the interpretation. Tatoo world, schmatoo world. In my opinion, there should not be such a thing for one who is supposed to be setting an example. As Paul said, "All things are lawful.etc" but that does not mean to go ahead and do it. We are supposed to follow Christ, not the world. Jesus said that if He be lifted up, he will draw all men (everyone) to Himself.
People call tatoos 'body art' - I don't see art when I look at Mr. Bentley, but then again I don't like tatoos, period. If one has them before they are saved, I don't have a prob with it. I just have enough of people doing just what the world does. Indeed, God did say - COME OUT from among them - not IMITATE THEM AND TRY TO FIT IN.
I am not comfortable with dresses down to the ankles either, so please don't lump me in the super conservative group (to the point of sticking out in that respect  )
OK, well, sure to be misunderstood here somewhere - that's fine, but let's just be respectful about it. 
Thanks!
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:33:54 PM
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Lapidoth
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ORIGINAL: bluestone
Something very,very wrong is going on with Bentley, but to focus on his tattoos is IMO, headed down a rabbit hole.
I don't think tattoos hold a candle to his:
inability to read scripture without going nuts
Professing to cruise the upper altitudes with angels
Has found an opening into heaven, and like Jack and the Beanstalk, can climb in at any time.
Praying against those who oppose his theology
That is so true!!!!!
Only negative I would have on the tattoos would be his lying about when he got them and why.
But the inability to read scripture is a real problem.
Seeing the shack where the Apostle Paul lives. man!
We fall for all this because we question ourselves from the seeds planted by
the former false teachers and TB --- "Who are you to question me? Have you been through that
portal?"
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:42:00 PM
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People call tatoos 'body art'
Body Art? LOL.
I saw a lady the other day with a small tattoo on her ankle area.
Did I see body art, nope, I thought she had a bad stain or mark on her.
And to go to Taco Tico and everyone has nasty markings all over their
arms and down their fingers? LOL. I walked out and haven't been back.
It spells "nasty" to me, not art.
Like you say, if they've been tattooed before, that's a problem in itself.
I know a minister that had nasty tattooes from the Navy time. He took
them off himself with a sander when he got saved. Now there's a nasty
scar on his forearm. He won't tell us what the "art" was. lol.
My wife led her niece to the Lord last month. She's covered in tattoos.
She understands what they appear to others now and is shamed by them.
We try to console her, but they are there. And I'm told it costs more to remove
them that to put them on.
I've never done it because I read the Bible when I was 12 years old.
Just knowing God's Word has "kept" me from a lot of things growing up.
Even if it weren't for that, I think things out most of the time.
I've looked in the Too Parlors and think, "But, it's so permanent."
The church is sick and need of "healing."
"I sent my Word and healed you." Psalms
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:42:08 PM
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sirwintery
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ORIGINAL: bluestone
Something very,very wrong is going on with Bentley, but to focus on his tattoos is IMO, headed down a rabbit hole.
I had considered those a side issue from the beginning. I knew I should have deleted my post with my question before I posted it, but didn't. I didn't expect there to be any reaction other than yes or no.
Stephanos if that part wasn't directed at me I apologize for my reaction.
Bentley has answered his critics on his website.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:45:50 PM
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I had considered those a side issue from the beginning. I knew I should have deleted my post with my question before I posted it, but didn't. I didn't expect there to be any reaction other than yes or no.
Leviticus 19:28 " Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tatoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord."
I do eat pork tho............. 
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:47:11 PM
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I have been reluctant to watch any of the Lakeland videos lest I pollute my brain and spirit with that garbage, but I relented and watched the "blah-blah" and the "dancing girl" videos...
I came away with one profound impression...just like the "holy laughter" and other such movements, the focus is on people, and not the Lord Jesus Christ and that, in and of itself, is reason enough for me to reject what is going on there. That, and the fact that it is so anti-scriptural it makes me shake my head in wonder that "Christians" could ever be taken in by it.
I am praying that the deception here would be revealed and that the people who have been deceived would turn their hearts towards God and His Word, but it frightens me to see how easy it has become for people to fall prey to such an obviously anti-Christ movement...oh, the folly of itching ears. 
Edited because I left out a bunch of words.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:54:47 PM
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This type of thing shows that emotional extremism is dangerous.
Hysterical emotions and fanatical leadership begat Nazism.
It is never a good mix.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 12:54:58 PM
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Edited because I left out a bunch of words.
LOL! You had the important ones in there, Kat. Good post.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 1:11:51 PM
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Some low-lights from Todd's self-defense...(linked above)
"Some people desire Scripture for every manifestation of God..."
"In the case of the angel called "Emma," who I described as having mother-like nurturing qualities, some have automatically assumed that my doctrine is that I believe in female angels. This has never been the case!"
"My accountability team and I, through careful examination, determined that this vision was not outside of God's realm."
"For this reason, I asked my staff to remove from our website, articles that are causing such strife and division and deterring the Body from the very real and pressing focus of these last days."
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 1:29:21 PM
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I would like to know who is on the accountability team.
Teletubbies?
Power rangers?
Larry, Moe, & Curley?
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 1:39:36 PM
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when it comes down to it, I doubt he answers to anyone other than himself, and his legal representation.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 1:42:28 PM
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"In the case of the angel called "Emma," who I described as having mother-like nurturing qualities, some have automatically assumed that my doctrine is that I believe in female angels. This has never been the case!"
Of course that would be their determination. To determine otherwise would be determine only 3 other possibilities: 1. Bentley is nuts and hallucinating; 2. Bentley is listening to and consorting with demons; 3. He's made it all up and is a liar; or 4. any combination of the previous 3.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 1:42:41 PM
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LINK TO TATTOO DISCUSSION THREAD IN M&E
If we follow the Old Testament law, we need to pack up, head to Lakeland, and stone Bentley.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 1:50:04 PM
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When I saw him last Saturday night he said something about how he knew how to break through and get victory (quote as close as i remember). Why does he think he has anything to do with it. A revival would be about repentance and Christ not a superior prayer hero and his works.
I downloaded the booklet from his defense page and the professor or whoever he is was teaching the same old Word of Faith stuff about losing your healing because you didn't rebuke the symptoms when they started to come back.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 2:08:39 PM
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ORIGINAL: bluestone
LINK TO TATTOO DISCUSSION THREAD IN M&E
If we follow the Old Testament law, we need to pack up, head to Lakeland, and stone Bentley.
In fairness to Todd... a lot of other false prophets would be dealt with before people got to Todd.
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RE: :: Lakeland Revival - Todd Bentley - 6/13/2008 2:10:18 PM
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ChristopherJ,
I should have a gap of free time tomorrow (Saturday) afternoon - I plan on sitting down and responding back to your responses then. Again, thank you for your patience and grace.
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