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oh.sleeper -> Lost (5/2/2008 6:19:59 PM)
Hello, I'm new here and I've looked around a bit and decided that I really don't know where to go to talk about this. My problem is that I keep pushing God away. I mean, I really want to be close to Him and my heart hurts when I'm pushing Him away. I want to be near Him, but I can't seem to do it. I keep doubting and I know I shouldn't be. God has brought me through times that I never thought I could get out of. I can feel His love for me and I know how much He's blessed me and yet... I still push Him away. I need some help getting back in tune with the Lord. I want to be able to pray without ceasing and worship Him with my whole heart... but I just can't seem to do it. [&o]

Wild-Rose -> RE: Lost (5/3/2008 2:24:38 PM)
Try a good Christian CD. Music goes straight to the heart and bypasses the brain. This saves you the trouble of thinking too much. Music will help you go into worship. Try the Prayer request forum, the General Faith forum, The Bible forum if you want to ask about interesting ways to study the bible. Welcome!

shawke -> RE: Lost (5/3/2008 2:27:22 PM)
Moving this thread to General Faith. Steve Forums Moderator

mvic -> RE: Lost (5/3/2008 3:00:07 PM)
Hi, I think the thing to ask is WHY? From what you say, it seems you are a believer in God, you want to be close to Him, and He has helped you in the past. Yet ... you keep pushing Him away. Why? Is it perhaps because you feel you're not worthy of His love? Well, here's news ... He loves you all the same. None of us is worthy; but He loves us. Sometimes we feel distant from our Lord, perhaps because we have sinned and cannot forgive ourselves, even though He has forgiven us. Perhaps it is because we have asked Him for something and we feel He is not listening. For whatever reason we feel distant, doubting, unbelieving and confused. This happens to all of us - it's because we are human and our Faith in Him varies from person to person. We can't all be saints you know! Sometimes it could even be the devil tempting us away from Him. So what do we - or you - do about it? Pray. Tell God in your own words how you feel. Tell Him why. Trust Him and wait. He will help you. Discuss this matter with someone you can trust - e.g. pastor, minister etc ... I'm sure God will bless you. After all, you took the first step by discussing how you feel here. Those reading this, and I, will pray for you.

Brachah -> RE: Lost (5/4/2008 12:29:58 AM)
the problem can be for most of the time, we are too shy before God. talking to God constantly is not a duty, it's a sweetness. we have burdens of life, by only talking to God we are released. tell God EVERYTHING, ur doubts, ur opinions, ur humor, ur news, ur work, ur friends, ur family, ur world, ur life, ur details, ur plans, ... no matter whether u talk to people or not, at beginning n at last talk to ur heavenly father. never ignore or forget HIM. i give a very personal example of myself: i have a msn id with my own name, i have a yahoo id with a name Holy Spirit. it's my own creative way of speaking to God. get online, chat with God, just like chatting with ur closest best friend. it works. i often joke with God. i know He is very humorous too! i like to chat with Him, i know He likes more than me. so far there is nothing left unanswered or unsolved! he gives everything more than i asked n beyond my own imaginations! u may have ur own effective way to speak to God. put it into practice.

Conquered -> RE: Lost (5/4/2008 1:26:38 AM)
quote: Try a good Christian CD. Music goes straight to the heart and bypasses the brain. This saves you the trouble of thinking too much. Music will help you go into worship. Unless your talking about a CD of the Psalms this is unscriptural advice that is not of God. No one can be manipulated, argued or coerced into the Kingdom of God. Only the Spirit of God can reveal the word of Christ. And for that matter, one of the great reasons why the American church grows ever darker is that it "thinks too little" of its sins, not too much. You should be encouraged that oh.sleeper is stirring from his sin and not just pacifying a guilty conscience as so many millions who claim Christ (though have never had him) do today when their conscience is pierced by the Spirit. oh.sleeper, believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. Come as you are, trust in him and believe that he will heal you. Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ. - Romans 10:17 And oh.sleeper your username reminded of another verse that may encourage you.... "Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." -Ephesians 5:14 And consider this quote from an old sermon that has helped me greatly.... quote: Why, if God were to hear your prayers arid make you feel your need, you would begin to trust in your feelings, and would be led to say, "I trust Christ because I feel my need;" that would be just saying, "I trust myself." All these things are but Popery in disguise; all this preaching to sinners that they must feel this and feel that before they trust in Jesus, is just self-righteousness in another shape. I know our Calvinistic brethren will not like this sermon—I cannot help that—for I do not hesitate to say, that Phariseeism is mixed with Hyper-Calvinism more than with any other sect in the world. And I do solemnly declare that this preaching to the prejudice and feelings of what they call sensible sinners, is nothing more than self-righteousness taking a most cunning and crafty shape, for it is telling the sinner that he must be something before he comes to Christ. Whereas the gospel is preached not to sensible sinners, or sinners with any other qualifying adjective, but to sinners as sinners, to sinners just as they are; it is not to sinners as repentant sinners, but to sinners as sinners, be their state what it may, and their feelings whatever they may. Oh, sinners, Mercy's door is wide open flung to you this morning; let not Satan push you back saying, "You are not fit;" You are not fit! that is to say, you have all the fitness Christ wants, and that is none at all. Come to him just as you are. - C.H. Spurgeon Here's the whole sermon... http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0336.htm

Brachah -> RE: Lost (5/4/2008 1:33:41 AM)
i remember 20 years ago, when i got a bible in my hand for the 1st time, i knew it was the only book i really want to read. i read it all days n all nights (under a candle). there was no preacher, no church, no "christians". amazing, at same time, i prepared a note book. the title of the note book was "talk to God". at beginning, i just bla bla by myself. later i know it's important to distinguish the language between me n God. so i write B: (brachah, me) before i want to say sth, n S: (holy spirit) or Y:(yhwh) before the contents based on biblical quotations, enlightenments, or interpretations, or "sound" scientific (both natural n social) educationals. the amazing thing of chatting with God on line (after the internet was born) is: when u ask God a question, or God asks u a question, u hv immediate access to on line bibles, googles, etc n normally the question wl be answered immediately. thank God for internet, i can take great advantage of the "knowledge explosion" by spending a few $ a month.

BibleL7 -> RE: Lost (5/4/2008 6:07:16 AM)
Think back to what you did before you started pushing Him away and return to that. Whether it be prayer, Bible study, or worship and praise. There is no easy answer to the situation, for only you know what has changed. And I would agree that praise and worship music can help as well as bible study and prayer. Praising the Lord especially when you don't feel like it does help change your attitude. Also consider reading the first letter to the churches in Rev. Chapter 2. Jesus rebuked them for having left their first love. He admonished them to return to their first works. So pray about it and see how your first works are different then now. Just some thoughts to consider and pray on.

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