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RE: Tony Alamo ministries?? - 11/25/2008 7:39:12 PM
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untilredemption
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It's been confirmed by his own followers that Alamo has practice polygamy, and one "wife" was 9 years old.
He is being held without bond in Texarkana. At 74, I think this is finally over.
Too bad the victims of this guy cannot say the same.
To bad the Truth can't be told. Those people are NOT victims they are disgruntled ex-volunteers and they are lying. They volunteered to be a part of that church.
http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?s=9390709
Did you ever check out the falsely so called victims. Like Seth? A queer he is, members say Seth could have gone either way. You know have a relationship with a man or a women, he wasn't particular.
They don't allow homosexuals in their church. Now that he has to fend for himself, instead of having Free room and board, he is bringing the most evil lying stories. Must be some monetary gain for him. You know they pay people to show up in court and be a so called witness.
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RE: Tony Alamo ministries?? - 11/25/2008 7:55:26 PM
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earthless
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untilredemption,
So the charges of polygamy and such are false? His false teachings are not a result of "disgruntled volunteers", so please square that away for us whose litmus is the Bible, the Word of God.
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RE: Tony Alamo ministries?? - 11/26/2008 12:14:13 AM
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untilredemption
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All charges are false. His teachings are NOT false.
If you are not being persecuted your not a Christian.
Are you one of those, prefers to live a life of comfort and ease. Oh don't say anything that is really in the Bible because people might HATE you for it.
Oh course satan hates anyone that has their name written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Of course satan uses people to falsely accuse the saints, in an attempt to throw their soul.
Why even the very elect might be deceived.
compare what is said with the King James Version of the Bible and prove it for yourself.
http://www.alamoministries.com/audiomessages/index.html
http://www.alamoministries.com/content/english/english_lit_index.html
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RE: Tony Alamo ministries?? - 11/26/2008 3:26:47 AM
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From Tony Alamo Minstries:
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My Lord and my God, have mercy upon my soul, a sinner. 1 I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of the Living God. 2 I believe that He died on the cross and shed His precious blood for the forgiveness of all my sins. 3 I believe that God raised Jesus from the dead by the power of the Holy Spirit 4 and that He sits on the right hand of God at this moment, hearing my confession of sin and this prayer. 5 I open up the door of my heart and I invite You into my heart, Lord Jesus. 6 Wash all of my filthy sins away in the precious blood that You shed in my place on the cross at Calvary. 7 You will not turn me away, Lord Jesus, You will forgive my sins and save my soul. I know because Your Word, the Bible says so. 8 Your Word says that You will turn no one away, and that includes me. 9 Therefore, I know that You have heard me, and I know that You have answered me, and I know that I am saved. 10 And I thank You, Lord Jesus, for saving my soul, and I will show my thankfulness by doing as You command and sin no more. 11
You've just completed the first step in a series of five steps which are necessary to receive salvation. Your second step is to deny yourself and take up the cross daily for the purpose of mortifying yourself, that is, for putting to death your own will, your soulful self, and the world with all of its lusts. All these must be baptized into the death of Christ.
Step three is your resurrection from the satanic life of Adam unto the sinless life of Christ. Step four is your ascension into a position of authority to reign for God on earth, and the fifth step is to reign for God on earth to the end for the purpose of bringing about the kingdom of Heaven on earth. You must learn the Word of God, then submit yourself and do what the Word says, so that the Church and the world may see evidence of your submission to God's Word, His order, and His authority in and by you.
Wow.... who knew all those steps were necessary for salvation. And here I thought all this time it was receiving God-given faith through the hearing of His word. For those who die soon after receiving faith and confessing Christ, sorry, but you're out of luck. Someone might want to let Mr. Alamo, though, that Christ's kingdom is not of this earth. Christ kind of made that very clear. Just sayin'.
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If you are not being persecuted your not a Christian.
No, you have that all wrong. It's prosecuted, not persecuted. Try not to confuse the two.
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Thi4f... seriously, guys?? This does not bode well.
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RE: Tony Alamo ministries?? - 11/26/2008 8:29:40 AM
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earthless
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All charges are false. His teachings are NOT false.
If you are not being persecuted your not a Christian.
Are you one of those, prefers to live a life of comfort and ease. Oh don't say anything that is really in the Bible because people might HATE you for it.
Oh course satan hates anyone that has their name written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Of course satan uses people to falsely accuse the saints, in an attempt to throw their soul.
Why even the very elect might be deceived.
compare what is said with the King James Version of the Bible and prove it for yourself.
http://www.alamoministries.com/audiomessages/index.html
http://www.alamoministries.com/content/english/english_lit_index.html
False prophecies and failed teachings are what is at issue here. And persecution is not an absolute that one is His - otherwise the Tibetan Monks, Mormons, etc.. all need to be counted as brothers in Christ, which they are not.
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RE: Tony Alamo ministries?? - 11/26/2008 9:49:36 AM
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No, you have that all wrong. It's prosecuted, not persecuted. Try not to confuse the two.
That's exactly right. Alamo is being PROSECUTED, NOT persecution for following Christ.
untilredemption, please show one fact that there is persection, outside the current charges which are factual. One instance.
Mr. Alamo also spent time in the prison for tax evasion. He had his followers working for less than minimum wage too.
< Message edited by GodsMusic -- 11/27/2008 8:34:13 PM >
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RE: Tony Alamo ministries?? - 11/26/2008 9:54:32 AM
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earthless
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Lies! All lies!
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RE: Tony Alamo ministries?? - 11/27/2008 10:52:08 PM
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All charges are false. His teachings are NOT false.
What about the charges of him dishing out church discipline by way of spankings? Including adults getting spankings?
Wow.
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