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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/20/2008 9:41:38 AM   
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Don't forget in the imagination of the liberal mindset also.


Please tell me you're not suggesting that racism is imaginary.


There is real racism in this world amongst all races.

But there is also much imaginary racism in the minds of liberals.

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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 1:51:04 PM   
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Well the simularity between Obama and the Curious George cartoon character was first pointed out to me by my 4 year old grandson.

He was visiting me in my office and started laughing at the TV that I keep on the news and pay very little attention to. It was Obama giving a stump speech somewhere or another. My Grandson was laughing and told me look Gpaw it's Curious George. I did notice a lot of resemblance between Obama and the books I had seen in the nursery.

Later that day I purposly watched a Curious George DVD of my grandchildren's, the first cartoon of him that I had seen.

The resemplance is uncanny, not only the same hairline and large ears, but the long arms, lankyness, the waving of the arms when he talks etc; the likeness was nearly spooky.

Now as to whether this guy who is selling t-shirts is a racist or trying to make a racist statement, I have no clue. But the resemblance is definately there.

Obama and his supporters are being way oversensitive.


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I would give you a history/sociology lesson, but it would obviously be pointless.



Oh, c'mon people! We all look like somebody!
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 1:52:13 PM   
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I'm new around here. I can't believe there are 11 pages dedicated to this! Sheesh!
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 1:53:59 PM   
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I'm new around here. I can't believe there are 11 pages dedicated to this! Sheesh!


As I have been saying, Folks are way way way too sensitive and should lighten up a dab (or a lot).

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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 1:59:53 PM   
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I'm blonde and I don't whine everytime I hear a blonde joke...I laugh! I'm short and I don't whine everytime I hear Randy Newman's song. My husband's bald and he didn't whine when someone gave him some Mop-N-Glo for a 40th birthday present.

We really must get over ourselves!

If I were Obama, I would appreciate the free press.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 2:38:48 PM   
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I'm blonde and I don't whine everytime I hear a blonde joke...I laugh! I'm short and I don't whine everytime I hear Randy Newman's song. My husband's bald and he didn't whine when someone gave him some Mop-N-Glo for a 40th birthday present.

We really must get over ourselves!

If I were Obama, I would appreciate the free press.


Blondes and bald men were not drug from their homes, chained in ships where they gave birth in their own excrement and urine. Nor were they held captive as slaves simply because they were blonde or bald, or raped, or bred like livestock. Blondes and bald men did not watch their spouses or children auctioned off in front of courthouses. Nor were they called apes an monkeys because of their country of origin, or skin color.

Making fun of people due to age, baldness, etc. is mean spirited. It in NO WAY compares to the humiliation, hurt, or generational poverty that is the legacy of slavery in America. Refering to a black person as Curious George, or any other monkey or ape is shameful, disrespectful, and an embarrassment to whites who have the common decency to acknowledge that our legacy in the horrendous treatment of black Americans a reality.

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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 3:25:31 PM   
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Depicting Obama as Curious George is in poor taste. However, so is bringing up slavery as an issue at every opportunity. Slavery ended here in the US nearly 150 years ago. It was a bad thing. Why must so many cling to it? Do they need to be victims?

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ORIGINAL: DarleneSchreiber

I'm blonde and I don't whine everytime I hear a blonde joke...I laugh! I'm short and I don't whine everytime I hear Randy Newman's song. My husband's bald and he didn't whine when someone gave him some Mop-N-Glo for a 40th birthday present.

We really must get over ourselves!

If I were Obama, I would appreciate the free press.


Blondes and bald men were not drug from their homes, chained in ships where they gave birth in their own excrement and urine. Nor were they held captive as slaves simply because they were blonde or bald, or raped, or bred like livestock. Blondes and bald men did not watch their spouses or children auctioned off in front of courthouses. Nor were they called apes an monkeys because of their country of origin, or skin color.

Making fun of people due to age, baldness, etc. is mean spirited. It in NO WAY compares to the humiliation, hurt, or generational poverty that is the legacy of slavery in America. Refering to a black person as Curious George, or any other monkey or ape is shameful, disrespectful, and an embarrassment to whites who have the common decency to acknowledge that our legacy in the horrendous treatment of black Americans a reality.


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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 3:34:54 PM   
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My, my, my...such a fuss! I'm certainly glad the Jews, the Irish, the Germans (who immigrated here), the Japanese (who immigrated here), the American Indians, any religious group, etc., ad nauseum, don't take the same attitude. We would be in constant civil war, wouldn't we? I dare say, all of us can probably say we have some sort of ancestory that was treated inhumanely by some other group. Although, I can say that no one I've ever known owned a slave, put a Jew in an oven, beat a Japanese immigrant, burned a Christian, chases an Indian off his homeland. Hmmmm...why do we keep bringing these things up? Why do people like to keep the spotlight on the hurts of the past?

The race fell with the very first members and it's been a tough ride ever since. Sin is sin is sin is sin.... And we all pay, all our lives, and will in eternity if we don't accept the gift God gave at Calvary.

At some point, we have to forgive our tormentors as was the example given by Jesus. At some point, we have to realize there is Someone greater than ourselves and we worship Him and not ourselves and our little hurt feelings.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 3:37:43 PM   
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Thank you, Dave! You stated the point much more eloquently, succintly and directly than I did. (I use way too many words! )
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 3:48:12 PM   
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My, my, my...such a fuss! I'm certainly glad the Jews, the Irish, the Germans (who immigrated here), the Japanese (who immigrated here), the American Indians, any religious group, etc., ad nauseum, don't take the same attitude. We would be in constant civil war, wouldn't we? I dare say, all of us can probably say we have some sort of ancestory that was treated inhumanely by some other group. Although, I can say that no one I've ever known owned a slave, put a Jew in an oven, beat a Japanese immigrant, burned a Christian, chases an Indian off his homeland. Hmmmm...why do we keep bringing these things up? Why do people like to keep the spotlight on the hurts of the past?

The race fell with the very first members and it's been a tough ride ever since. Sin is sin is sin is sin.... And we all pay, all our lives, and will in eternity if we don't accept the gift God gave at Calvary.

At some point, we have to forgive our tormentors as was the example given by Jesus. At some point, we have to realize there is Someone greater than ourselves and we worship Him and not ourselves and our little hurt feelings.


It keeps getting brought up because things like the obama t shirt shove in in faces.
You can forgive tormentors, but that does not mean you lie down and allow the tormentors to keep tormenting.
currently, Jews still are mistreated by gentiles, particularly those who say the holocuast never happened. The Japanese Americans kept in camps died for the most part never regaining their stolen property, and they have kicked up a fuss.
Here is the deal: No one is producing t shirts protraying those groups as animals. Perhaps you have not read this entire thread. Your points have been hashed over already.

Black Americans have been referred to as monkeys and apes and jungle bunnies and Alabama porch monkeys since the times of slavery. Black Americans have been treated as a separate animal species. Such a fuss??? lady, that t shirt is about humiliating and dehumanizing an entire race of people. There should be a huge fuss...from the white community.

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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 3:55:58 PM   
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Quite welcome. My years of technical writing showing...................
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ORIGINAL: DarleneSchreiber

Thank you, Dave! You stated the point much more eloquently, succintly and directly than I did. (I use way too many words! )


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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 4:00:38 PM   
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Quite welcome. My years of technical writing showing...................
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ORIGINAL: DarleneSchreiber

Thank you, Dave! You stated the point much more eloquently, succintly and directly than I did. (I use way too many words! )


Plus, as we grow older, we don't have as much time to fool around, we tend to get right to the point.



OTH, if you get us going down a stroll down memory lane, all bets are off.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 4:06:22 PM   
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You probably weren't born yet when WWII was going. There were caricatures and comic books depicting Japanese as buck toothed, squinting, slant eyed creatures with big thick glasses. The Nazis portrayed Jews in nearly the same way. These were at least in poor taste, and at worst, cruel. Is the Obama tee shirt worse than these? We all need to get over these things and get on with life.

-Dave

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ORIGINAL: bluestone

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ORIGINAL: DarleneSchreiber

My, my, my...such a fuss! I'm certainly glad the Jews, the Irish, the Germans (who immigrated here), the Japanese (who immigrated here), the American Indians, any religious group, etc., ad nauseum, don't take the same attitude. We would be in constant civil war, wouldn't we? I dare say, all of us can probably say we have some sort of ancestory that was treated inhumanely by some other group. Although, I can say that no one I've ever known owned a slave, put a Jew in an oven, beat a Japanese immigrant, burned a Christian, chases an Indian off his homeland. Hmmmm...why do we keep bringing these things up? Why do people like to keep the spotlight on the hurts of the past?

The race fell with the very first members and it's been a tough ride ever since. Sin is sin is sin is sin.... And we all pay, all our lives, and will in eternity if we don't accept the gift God gave at Calvary.

At some point, we have to forgive our tormentors as was the example given by Jesus. At some point, we have to realize there is Someone greater than ourselves and we worship Him and not ourselves and our little hurt feelings.


It keeps getting brought up because things like the obama t shirt shove in in faces.
You can forgive tormentors, but that does not mean you lie down and allow the tormentors to keep tormenting.
currently, Jews still are mistreated by gentiles, particularly those who say the holocuast never happened. The Japanese Americans kept in camps died for the most part never regaining their stolen property, and they have kicked up a fuss.
Here is the deal: No one is producing t shirts protraying those groups as animals. Perhaps you have not read this entire thread. Your points have been hashed over already.

Black Americans have been referred to as monkeys and apes and jungle bunnies and Alabama porch monkeys since the times of slavery. Black Americans have been treated as a separate animal species. Such a fuss??? lady, that t shirt is about humiliating and dehumanizing an entire race of people. There should be a huge fuss...from the white community.


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The light of God surrounds me,
The love of God enfolds me,
The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me.
Wherever I am, God is.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 4:08:14 PM   
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And by the way, you did quite well, yourself!
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My, my, my...such a fuss! I'm certainly glad the Jews, the Irish, the Germans (who immigrated here), the Japanese (who immigrated here), the American Indians, any religious group, etc., ad nauseum, don't take the same attitude. We would be in constant civil war, wouldn't we? I dare say, all of us can probably say we have some sort of ancestory that was treated inhumanely by some other group. Although, I can say that no one I've ever known owned a slave, put a Jew in an oven, beat a Japanese immigrant, burned a Christian, chases an Indian off his homeland. Hmmmm...why do we keep bringing these things up? Why do people like to keep the spotlight on the hurts of the past?

The race fell with the very first members and it's been a tough ride ever since. Sin is sin is sin is sin.... And we all pay, all our lives, and will in eternity if we don't accept the gift God gave at Calvary.

At some point, we have to forgive our tormentors as was the example given by Jesus. At some point, we have to realize there is Someone greater than ourselves and we worship Him and not ourselves and our little hurt feelings.


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The light of God surrounds me,
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The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 4:09:26 PM   
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You got that right, Jimbo!!
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ORIGINAL: davemiller7

Quite welcome. My years of technical writing showing...................
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ORIGINAL: DarleneSchreiber

Thank you, Dave! You stated the point much more eloquently, succintly and directly than I did. (I use way too many words! )


Plus, as we grow older, we don't have as much time to fool around, we tend to get right to the point.



OTH, if you get us going down a stroll down memory lane, all bets are off.



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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 4:12:57 PM   
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You probably weren't born yet when WWII was going. There were caricatures and comic books depicting Japanese as buck toothed, squinting, slant eyed creatures with big thick glasses. The Nazis portrayed Jews in nearly the same way. These were at least in poor taste, and at worst, cruel. Is the Obama tee shirt worse than these? We all need to get over these things and get on with life.

-Dave



I am well aware of how they were portrayed. The point being they are not portrayed that way today, with those offended by it telling them to "get over it". If they were portrayed that was today, people would be up in arms over it.

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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 4:15:30 PM   
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You probably weren't born yet when WWII was going. There were caricatures and comic books depicting Japanese as buck toothed, squinting, slant eyed creatures with big thick glasses. The Nazis portrayed Jews in nearly the same way. These were at least in poor taste, and at worst, cruel. Is the Obama tee shirt worse than these? We all need to get over these things and get on with life.

-Dave

It hasn't been too long ago that they quit showing Bugs Bunny toons from WW2 era with Japanese characters like that.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 4:17:48 PM   
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Or Tom& Jerry cartoons with the large black maid.

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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 4:39:50 PM   
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We had a maid that was black when I was a wee lad. She wasn't big or 'fraid of mice. Two houses down was a neighbor who happened to be black that visited back & forth with my mom. I've played with and went to school with kids, some of whom happened to be black. I've worked with, for, and managed people that happened to be black. I've formed my opinions about individuals, not groups depicted in toons or on T-shirts.

And none of the people I know look like a monkey, ape, or baboon, nor do they make me think of Curious George.
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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 5:29:48 PM   
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There were caricatures and comic books depicting Japanese as buck toothed, squinting, slant eyed creatures with big thick glasses. The Nazis portrayed Jews in nearly the same way.



Both the Japanese and the Jews have been compensated with monies for their pain. Both have recieved reparations.

Blacks got what?

More of the same.

Land we did buy, stolen, Churches burned, schools destroyed, etc.

We don'thave to go off slavery. Racist crimes have RISEN 10% since 2000!

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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 8:19:59 PM   
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And, All races are guilty. This isn't a one way street. Fact is, there is more black on black crime, more white on white crime, more Hispanic on Hispanic crime, etc. than those crimes committed by one race on another.

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There were caricatures and comic books depicting Japanese as buck toothed, squinting, slant eyed creatures with big thick glasses. The Nazis portrayed Jews in nearly the same way.



Both the Japanese and the Jews have been compensated with monies for their pain. Both have recieved reparations.

Blacks got what?

More of the same.

Land we did buy, stolen, Churches burned, schools destroyed, etc.

We don'thave to go off slavery. Racist crimes have RISEN 10% since 2000!


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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/22/2008 8:50:44 PM   
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And, All races are guilty. This isn't a one way street. Fact is, there is more black on black crime, more white on white crime, more Hispanic on Hispanic crime, etc. than those crimes committed by one race on another.



your kidding right, we have stats of a few years of black on black crime, compared to 100's of years of hangings, burning, raping, separating families,etc.

It's a one way street here in Us. NO ONE has commited more atrocites against other races than the white man.

Natives, Blacks, Japanese, Jews, now Mexicans and Arabs.

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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/23/2008 6:14:55 AM   
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The opinions on this website where people are supposed to be Christian show that this kind of **** is never going to end because the finger pointing and blame just keeps going on and on in one enormous circle.
Enough already!!!

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RE: Curious George/Obama T-Shirt Racist? - 5/23/2008 8:07:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tracydolls

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There were caricatures and comic books depicting Japanese as buck toothed, squinting, slant eyed creatures with big thick glasses. The Nazis portrayed Jews in nearly the same way.



Both the Japanese and the Jews have been compensated with monies for their pain. Both have recieved reparations.

Blacks got what?

More of the same.

Land we did buy, stolen, Churches burned, schools destroyed, etc.

We don'thave to go off slavery. Racist crimes have RISEN 10% since 2000!

Who should I make my check out to and what is my personal share? Should I enclose the title to my house, keys to my car, and my 401k?

BTW, the government didn't do a thing financially for the string of white churches torched throught Alabama a year or two ago. I guess whites can't count on reparations from the government for thugs and hooligans either.
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