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biblewarrior14 -> the path, right or wrong??? (5/16/2008 10:10:04 PM)

Me and my friend were talking together after school and our bus was running really late so we were all just hanging out. after a little while we over heard one of our friends teasing us saying ya they would make a good couple, while looking at use and smiling. we both said what and went over to her. billy said "you better be careful because I know where you sleep." Then I had to say, "Ya we can grab all of billy's automatic and semi automatic guns and go shoot ya." In a real playfully manner. she new we were teasing but the principle took it differently. well i got into trouble for terrorist threatening. when i got home i got in trouble for it. then i was told not to talk to hear any because the school had to tell the police because it was a rule. so a lawyer told me not to talk to hear because it can get me in more trouble, and my parents also agreed with him.

That night i prayed and asked god to show me the path that i should take. after i got done praying i found this one christian TV channel so i decided to watch it. almost immediately after i turned it on the preacher said "ask for forgiveness for what you have done to others, even from your enemy's, ask for forgiveness and then from there the rest will be laid down for you."

The next day when i got on the bus i told her sorry and she said she did not care. the next thing i know is that the bus driver and about ten other people are having a small bible study group together about verses in the bible and what someone from the bible might do in my shoes, ON THE BUS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

When i got home i told my parents the hole story starting from when i started to pray. my mom was amazed, but my step-dad said that it was the wrong choice and that now if i go to court for this then i am not going to get a lawyer because i disobeyed him and the lawyer. I told him that's fine because god has shone me the path that i must walk and he got mad and said that it was the wrong path and that god did not show me the path...
HELP???

Was it the right path or the wrong path???



deermousie -> RE: the path, right or wrong??? (5/16/2008 11:09:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: biblewarrior14
so a lawyer told me not to talk to hear because it can get me in more trouble, and my parents also agreed with him.

The next day when i got on the bus i told her sorry and she said she did not care. the next thing i know is that the bus driver and about ten other people are having a small bible study group together about verses in the bible and what someone from the bible might do in my shoes, ON THE BUS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

When i got home i told my parents the hole story starting from when i started to pray. my mom was amazed, but my step-dad said that it was the wrong choice and that now if i go to court for this then i am not going to get a lawyer because i disobeyed him and the lawyer. I told him that's fine because god has shone me the path that i must walk and he got mad and said that it was the wrong path and that god did not show me the path...
HELP???

Was it the right path or the wrong path???


First of all, Biblewarrior, I think you are a fine young man and a fine Christian, and I'd be proud to call you my son.

Secondly, I'm a former public school teacher, and this "political correctness" business is just insane. It's one of the reasons I'm a "former" teacher. However, you have to live with it for now, as you are a minor and under the authority of your parents and the school, and that's from God's hands.

Look at the example of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego in Daniel 1. They were told to do something that went against what their parents had taught them, so they politely asked the king for a test to do it differently. They didn't eat the king's food but they got permission not to. It ended well. Later they were told to do something that went against what God said (bowing down to idols) and assumably against what their parents taught them. They paid the price willingly, and didn't know God was going to save them from the consequences. They were willing to die, and were still polite to the king about it.

So how does this apply to you? Your parents agreed with the lawyer that you were not to talk to the girl. You saw the verse about asking forgiveness. Frankly, I would have apologized to her, too, and left it at that (and the chips to fall where they may. I might be wrong, but I'll pay the price for trying to do what is right. Let them expel me) and then walked away. I would have listened to the Bible study but not joined in.

Now here's another point: did you indeed sin against the girl by making a "threat"? Was it a real threat or a political machination? Was she injured by what you said? Taken at face value, I don't think so. You had no plans to hurt her in any way. So I'm not sure you needed to apologize to her or talk to her. I'm just happy that you have a tender heart towards the Lord and are willing to obey him. Good man!

Since you obviously are not a bad kid and don't have any police record of shooting the place up, this will probably get thrown out of court. The school might expel you for 5 days or make you go to another school to satisfy themselves that they aren't tolerating terrorism. Ask the lawyer what's the worst they can do, and would this go on your record for life since you are only a minor. I doubt it's going to hurt you, and the only hurt will be paying for the lawyer (I'm guessing you've already decided not to talk like that again to your friends. Smart).

Next time you're in a tight spot, talk it over with God and ask your parents for counsel. Be polite and deferential, knowing that that way you are also giving yourself to God's authority. Think through the various levels and see what God would have you do.

I know I've given you two different answers here, but there is stilll more to this that I haven't discerned in the last few minutes. Keep thinking, and don't be afraid. God is doing something in your life, so figure it out. And know that He is blessing you and raising you up - a warrior! He's using you in other people's lives right now, too.

God bless you, brother.



SinnerSaved -> RE: the path, right or wrong??? (5/17/2008 7:11:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: biblewarrior14

Was it the right path or the wrong path???


It was the wrong path. Why? Because you disobeyed your parents. They have your best interests at heart and you need to realise that.

I agree with deermousie that the earlier incident being related in some way to a terrorist threat with the police being involved, is political correctness gone mad Nevertheless, you are under the authority of your parents.

You are still only 14. In time to come, you will mature and learn to discern for yourself the path to choose.

Until then, you must listen to your parents and obey them. I suggest that in future you discuss things like this with them beforehand.



SonInMe1 -> RE: the path, right or wrong??? (5/17/2008 7:49:19 AM)

I apologise for my next words and I think its rude when others do this but in this case I think its warrented.

I would tell your school they have more important things to do then worry about such trivial incidences...like teaching children how to write, spell and use the proper grammar.

It is obvious from your post your school is failing to teach you.



DustyLady -> RE: the path, right or wrong??? (5/17/2008 8:00:39 AM)

You need to face the consequences for your actions, whatever those may be. Unfortunately, 14-year-olds don't get to make the rules, whether for school or for society as a whole. But there are right ways to show that you disagree with a rule, and there are wrong ways. In my opinion, you're taking the wrong way.

I worked in the public schools for 15 years. There are reasons that schools make rules, and one of them is that there have been bad people who bring guns into schools and do a lot of harm. Some may say that the schools are going too far in some of their rules, but this is a hard thing to judge. People older than you have debated this, and still disagree.

You disobeyed the principal. You disobeyed the lawyer. You disobeyed your parents. Yes, certainly it was right to ask them, and to ask God, for forgiveness. And that's a very good thing. But you still need to deal with the consequences of that behavior.

Yes, people are going to talk about you, because you did something that got the attention of the school authorities and the legal authorities. About the only thing you can do about that is to take your punishment like a man, and then go about living the rest of your life in such a way as to show everyone that you are worthy of their good opinion.

Dusty



biblewarrior14 -> RE: the path, right or wrong??? (5/17/2008 10:45:49 AM)

Thank you for your help so far. deermousie you have helped me out the most. Thank you



iamjc-s -> RE: the path, right or wrong??? (5/17/2008 11:15:59 AM)

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i was told not to talk to hear
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preacher said "ask for forgiveness for what you have done to others, even from your enemy's, ask for forgiveness and then from there the rest will be laid down for you."

There was a way to obey both of these:
You could have written her a note asking for forgiveness.

Suggestion:
If you ever run into a situation where it seems you can only obey 1 of 2, ask the Holy Spirit if there is a way to obey both.
Jesus sent us the Holy Spirit to guide us in righteousness & He will if you let Him.
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ruthyrich -> RE: the path, right or wrong??? (5/26/2008 10:13:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: iamjc-s

quote:

i was told not to talk to hear
...
preacher said "ask for forgiveness for what you have done to others, even from your enemy's, ask for forgiveness and then from there the rest will be laid down for you."

There was a way to obey both of these:
You could have written her a note asking for forgiveness.

Suggestion:
If you ever run into a situation where it seems you can only obey 1 of 2, ask the Holy Spirit if there is a way to obey both.
Jesus sent us the Holy Spirit to guide us in righteousness & He will if you let Him.
-

quote:

There was a way to obey both of these:
You could have written her a note asking for forgiveness.

Suggestion:
If you ever run into a situation where it seems you can only obey 1 of 2, ask the Holy Spirit if there is a way to obey both.
Jesus sent us the Holy Spirit to guide us in righteousness & He will if you let Him.


[&:]I like your answer the best

biblewarrior14"s mom
ruthyrich



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