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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 9/4/2009 7:10:40 PM
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humbleinspirit
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Hi Shallbe, as usual I have not been here during the week. I am just getting caught up here now. In any case, here is the answer to your question. 
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Boy, I've had a rough few days! Not physically, but it has made me physically sore, anyway! Weird.
Isn't it interesting how things can be going along very smoothly and then all of a sudden six or more different things go rocky in ONE DAY? That's what happened to us yesterday.
But, 'tis over.
And I have a question...
If you had to move, and could take only three things with you, what would you take?
shallbe
Its been emotionally rough the past few days for me too! Ok, 3 things? My computer, my CD's and my pictures.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 9/4/2009 7:23:30 PM
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I've often asked myself if there was a fire what I would grab. All I can think of is Toby and my purse. I really can't think of anything else.
Financially, everything is in my purse (except checkbooks, but there is my debit card). And I also have a Bible in my purse.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 9/4/2009 7:24:48 PM
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humbleinspirit
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I have been in fires before, what I instinctively grabbed was my wallet and my keys, not to mention that I was wearing a pair of pants and a shirt also. 
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 9/5/2009 8:41:07 AM
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I think that in a fire my list might look different! Although kids would come first...As much as I love my bible, I can always get another. I still would grab my blackberry...lots of important information in it.
I have a folder downstairs in a file cabinet that has important papers in it...if I could, I'd try to grab that if everyone was out.
And of course there are the pets...the dog would probably zoom out the door on her own, but the rats are helpless in their cage: we'd have to try to get them.
That's a little changed from moving.
I've thought about getting a second, portable hard drive to put our pictures on. My daughter is an amazing amateur photographer, and there are a million or so pics on our hard drive that are priceless. In a fire, I could just grab the portable hard drive.
We've had a tiny little bit of rain here! Yay! I'm still watering this morning, on my day, but the forecast says scattered thundershowers all weekend: maybe we'll get some of it!
It was sad to discover that one the 60 foot tall pine trees in our neighbors yard is dying because of drought. They are the tallest trees in the area, and have been there for years. The owls roost in them and the wind sounds so wonderful blowing through them. My neighbor was out fertilizing, trying to save it.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 9/7/2009 10:34:03 PM
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Here's a new question!
What are three things you believe about God?
This is to learn more about you, not to start any debates or even healthy discussions. So feel free to say whatever you want to about your beliefs!
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 9/27/2009 8:58:18 PM
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Here's a new question!
What are three things you believe about God?
This is to learn more about you, not to start any debates or even healthy discussions. So feel free to say whatever you want to about your beliefs!
shallbe
Hi Shallbe, I am only getting to this post just now!
1-God is omni-present.
2-God does care about the intimate details in our lives!
3-I believe in Pre-destination.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 9/27/2009 10:36:49 PM
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Wow, thanks for answering, Mike!
I, too, believe in predestination. I can't make my life and scripture add up any other way.
Anyone else want to answer?
Mike, what has God been teaching you lately?
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 9/27/2009 10:39:26 PM
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Hi Shallbe! I think that God is once again showing me to not worry and not to just automatically assume the worse about people, when it seems like they have done wrong. It might turn out to be nothing at all, and something external beyond ones control instead.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 9/28/2009 1:39:56 PM
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That's a good lesson to learn, Mike...I struggle to keep that perspective myself.
Isn't it cool how God doesn't give up on us and just keeps teaching and teaching patiently?
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 10/4/2009 11:12:42 PM
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humbleinspirit
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That's a good lesson to learn, Mike...I struggle to keep that perspective myself.
Isn't it cool how God doesn't give up on us and just keeps teaching and teaching patiently?
shallbe
Yes Shallbe, that is really cool! Forgiveness has been on my mind this week, that is what is real forgiveness and what is it not? Then I go to church this morning and what is the sermon on? forgiveness! 
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 10/5/2009 9:09:37 PM
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That very thing has happened to me many times, Mike. God does exist, and He does answer prayer, especially those prayers asking for help and wisdom in following him.
Great witness!
Thanks for sharing.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 10/12/2009 9:31:39 PM
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You're welcome Shallbe!
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 10/13/2009 10:03:05 AM
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Alright;
It's been awhile, but we need a new question in here...
Please tell about a funny experience you have had.
We laugh a lot in our family, but also since we all work with children in one way or another there are funny experiences and stories that come home frequently to get discussed around the dinner table.
Recently I had a rehearsal with two of my flute students together, and we were all working on Frosty the Snowman as a flute trio. These two students had never had the chance to play with other flutists together, and we had a lot of fun.
At the end of our time one of them looked at me with a huge smile on her face and said "Is it really time to go? It seems like we've only been here 5 minutes!"
Ok, so that's not so funny exactly, but cute and also made me feel great that she was so inspired having such a good time with her music.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/6/2009 6:24:55 PM
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I'll do the same: Do you NOT believe in Free Will? Do you therefore believe in predestination? That our lives are planned by God and we don't make any choices?
Yes, I believe that God created the Heavens and the Earth and man. I created my children, but I don't and can't make them do MY will.
No thank you, I don't like coffee. I'll drink my Diet Sierra Mist. However, I do not like to argue or even get in a heated debate. I have too much stress in my life as it is.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/6/2009 11:11:45 PM
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Sorry about the coffee...glad you could bring your own drink. There's wine in the fridge if you're interested... 
Since scripture both supports the concept of free will and also the concept of predestination to the point that God controls every movement of every atom of the universe, I must conclude that God is indeed in control of everything, yet without infringing upon our free will--which is even more awesome than the "black and white" idea that either there is free will OR God is a monster. 
Here are a very few of the scriptures that support this doctrine. I have added italics for emphasis:
Ezra 7:18-19 (ESV)
18 Whatever seems good to you and your brothers to do with the rest of the silver and gold, you may do, according to the will of your God.
19 The vessels that have been given you for the service of the house of your God, you shall deliver before the God of Jerusalem.
Romans 9:14-24 (ESV)
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God’s part? By no means!
15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy.
17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”
18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?”
20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?”
21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?
22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory—
24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?
John 15:16 (ESV)
16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
Proverbs 16:9 (ESV)
9 The heart of man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps.
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[1] The Holy Bible : English Standard Version. Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001.
I pondered your analogy, that you "created" your children. Actually, however, you did not create them. Create means to make something out of nothing. Yet that is not what happened when you became pregnant. In fact, the Bible clearly states that God knits us in our mother's wombs  ...
So that analogy doesn't fit. 
I have no intention of arguing or getting into a debate. I will again ask you, that if you have information based upon scripture that tells me more about God, I truly, sincerely want to know. Since the only way God has given us to know about him is through scripture, we can only rely on that source for information...that is why I am asking for scripture to support each concept about Him.
Can we then have a congenial, informed, gracious conversation about God so that I can learn more about Him? 
If not, that's ok. But you're welcome any time here in the Belfry.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/7/2009 9:12:45 AM
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quote:
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Alright;
It's been awhile, but we need a new question in here...
Please tell about a funny experience you have had.
When I was 8 years old, my big brother from the big brother organization had me over to his families house for dinner. There were several members of his family there. The food that I had been eating all night I did not like at all.
Finally I decided that I would have some salad. Now you cannot go wrong with salad. I took one bite of it and said "this salad tastes awful, what did you put in it, vinegar?" They said well, yes! While it wasn't funny at the time, it still to this day lives down in history!
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/8/2009 9:27:08 AM
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I know nothing NEW about God and don't understand why you are challenging me to tell you something new about Him.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/8/2009 5:32:35 PM
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teacher: I'm just curious. Does your screen name actually refer to you? In other words, are you a teacher in real life?
What I have asked is not a "challenge". In fact, I am only trying to answer questions you yourself asked in the other thread. Yet you are acting as if I have attacked you?
This is my last attempt to explain and get this conversation started: if you really want me to answer your questions, I can do that, but it takes two people to have a conversation. Your posts are coming across very snarky and you seem offended at me, yet I've done nothing but offer you some conversation about Someone we both claim to love very much.
You seem to be quite sure about God. I have discovered that He is infinite, and that there is always more to know about Him. So while what you know may not be new to you, it may be new to me, and I love to know more about this glorious God.
That is my answer to your most recent question. It is not a challenge, though if you feel challenged, I would have to wonder why...isn't God a worthy subject for conversation?
If you do not consider Him so, then that is a sad and dangerous condition in which to be, but I completely understand, and will not further pursue the conversation.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/8/2009 9:25:13 PM
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...isn't God a worthy subject for conversation? If you do not consider Him so, then that is a sad and dangerous condition in which to be
This is a perfect example of why I do not feel inclined to have a conversation with you. And you say MY posts are "snarky"????
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/8/2009 9:30:59 PM
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...isn't God a worthy subject for conversation? If you do not consider Him so, then that is a sad and dangerous condition in which to be
This is a perfect example of why I do not feel inclined to have a conversation with you. And you say MY posts are "snarky"????
It was a valid question.
I think we're done here.
The God of the Bible bless you as you go on your way.
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/8/2009 10:04:44 PM
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Hi teacher! I'm a teacher as well. :)
I don't have any platitudes to share with you, nor do I think that you'd want to read them anyway. What I do have are two ears (in this case, two eyes) and would be glad to listen to you here in the Belfry or via PM. You're welcome to use me as your punching bag if you'd like. Sometimes it helps to lash out in order to release some of the pain and hurt.
Would you like to hear about the past couple years of my life? I went through a period just this past summer where I wished that I didn't know Jesus. That's honest truth, as much as I hate to admit it. I was that depressed...
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/9/2009 10:26:51 AM
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Hiya Shallbe, Shema.
I don't get to say "hi" enough to you both so I thought I'd come in with a virtual plate of chocolate chip cookies and some cocoa/tea/soda of choice.
***huggles***
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/9/2009 10:34:00 AM
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Howzat...
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And hello to all three of ya! How y'all be?
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RE: Besiderself's Batty Belfry - 11/9/2009 10:37:03 AM
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PAM!
*huggles*
I be prrettty good. Trying to get ready for that white fluffy stuff that's on it's way soon!
How be you?
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